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Our Federal Govt. Used Assault Weapons to Massacre 76 Women, Children & Men at Waco in 1993
Self | December 20 | Stayfree

Posted on 12/20/2012 1:11:10 PM PST by Stayfree

The ATF, FBI and other government thugs massacred 76 American women, children and men with assault weapons, tanks, helicopters and machine guns in 1993 in Waco,TX. Then they set the church on fire in which the innocent American citizens were taking refuge from the government thugs!

If anyone needs their assault weapons taken from them, it is the U.S. Government thugs!!


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; children; corruption; democrats; govtabuse; gun; guncontrol; guns; massacre; secondamendment; tyranny; vanity; waco; women
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But of course, it is OK for the federal government to hand over 2,500 assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels who used them to murder Brian Terry, one of our border control agents and tens of thousands of innocent Mexican citizens!!!

After Waco and "Fast and Furious", the federal government has no credibility with respect to gun control...in fact, they are the ones who should not be allowed to possess any guns......!
1 posted on 12/20/2012 1:11:19 PM PST by Stayfree
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To: Stayfree

BTTT


2 posted on 12/20/2012 1:13:57 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Stayfree

The catalyst was the government’s use of incendiary tear gas canisters in a +90mph wind environment. The fire spread with a fury.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 1:15:57 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Stayfree

So conveniently forgotten by the MSM. Where’s the yearly memorial for them. Oh, I forgot, it’s Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston that has memorials and moments of silence in Congress.


4 posted on 12/20/2012 1:16:30 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Stayfree
Click image to download poster in PDF format

5 posted on 12/20/2012 1:17:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Stayfree
Hypothetical Scenario in the Near Future
6 posted on 12/20/2012 1:18:06 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Stayfree

Don’t forget Randy Weaver.. baby, wife and dog..


7 posted on 12/20/2012 1:25:07 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

-OR- Vinny “the fallguy” Foster..


8 posted on 12/20/2012 1:26:04 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Sandy Burglar is still walking the streets..


9 posted on 12/20/2012 1:28:03 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Stayfree

Is your church ATF approved?


10 posted on 12/20/2012 1:29:09 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Stayfree

Funny, I thought the Branch Davidian compound burned down?


11 posted on 12/20/2012 1:29:55 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Stayfree
I will say this, however. I was, frankly, surprised would be a mild word, to say that anyone that would suggest that the Attorney General should resign because some religious fanatics murdered themselves. (Applause.)

Never forget.

12 posted on 12/20/2012 1:32:29 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: fwdude

It burned down with the help of the government forces.


13 posted on 12/20/2012 1:33:29 PM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: Stayfree

Three points:

- The government knew that Koresh was harmless to his environs, to his own people and to the kids in the “compound”. I know that from personal communication with a leftwing (but with integrity) professor at Berkeley.

- The government used foreign military in the action. They borrowed two recog planes from the UK, complete with crews, for the FLIR which the US didn’t have.

- Eric Holder played a key role.


14 posted on 12/20/2012 1:34:53 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: MustKnowHistory
It burned down with the help of the government forces.

No, it didn't.

I'm as disgusted with the ATF and clinton's "justice department" as any conservative, but making stuff up doesn't promote our argument.

This was a diabolical cult lead by a tyrannical, child-raping criminal. A properly issued search warrant was resisted with deadly violence. And then they burned down the roof over their own heads after a weeks-long standoff, thinking that Koresh would miraculously rescue them.

Sorry. Law enforcement was right on this one.

15 posted on 12/20/2012 1:45:01 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Stayfree

16 posted on 12/20/2012 1:45:55 PM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: fwdude

Lol. Maybe you should hold off on the LEO kneejerks ;).


17 posted on 12/20/2012 1:54:11 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: fwdude
And then they burned down the roof over their own heads

That's not what I read.

18 posted on 12/20/2012 1:55:45 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: fwdude; MustKnowHistory

There were three different fires started within the compound on that fateful day. Did CS gas cause all three? No. Blame goes to the BR’s as well as the feds.

But another question is why were no fire trucks or any fire fighters on the scene when the fire fight started on that incredibly windy day? It took some 30-45 minutes after the fires began for responders to arrive.


19 posted on 12/20/2012 1:55:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
There were plenty of exits. Many people had been already allowed to leave during the standoff. Anyone staying inside during the fire either was doing so of their own accord, or were being detained against their will. In which case the BR's were solely culpable.
20 posted on 12/20/2012 2:01:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Actually, from the IR footage I have, they did.

The fire started at one place, from CS canisters fired into the building. It then raced down a long corridor structure running almost the length of the building, like a fireball, before branching out and firing more rooms and even popping out some windows.


21 posted on 12/20/2012 2:02:01 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: fwdude

BATF was up for Congressional hearings in which it expected to make a case for more funding. It wanted to walk in with the media and nation patting it on the back for a job well done. It needed to find a threat, eliminate it, and bask in glory.

The BATF found a phony threat and executed 76 Americans without trial, all in the name of more funding.

Oh, and this is the same bureaucracy that gave us Fast and Furious.


22 posted on 12/20/2012 2:07:03 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Stayfree
Prepare for the Branch Davidiazation of all gun owners.
23 posted on 12/20/2012 2:15:15 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Stayfree

People need to realize that Janet Reno ran that massacre, through her #2 man ERIC HOLDER !


24 posted on 12/20/2012 2:27:50 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: fwdude

Sorry, you’re wrong..Koresh was never charged with child abuse, nor did he have multiple wives. As for the warrant
it was a weapons charge....
As for who fired first, even the FBI said they could have picked Koresh up anytime as he shopped everyday in town but
leadership wanted a bloodbath.
If you think it’s proper to use tanks, flamethrowers,helo gunships and flammable chemical agents against mostly women and children, maybe, You should investigate a little deeper than goose stepping to the media’s and feds call.
By the way, the feds turned off the power to the compound days earlier. The compound had to use kerosene lamps for light and heat..... They feds knew this... as soon as the gas was injected... They burned to death...
Of course there isn’t any evidence, the day after the mass killings.... They bull dozed the place and carried all evidence to a land fill. All this while the news media was not aloud within a 4 mile area.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 2:37:43 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Stayfree

Real quick. How many of the deaths in the siege were due to firearms?


26 posted on 12/20/2012 2:40:35 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: baddog 219

And my source, who is a professor of religion, had running contact with Koresh, knew him well, and told me he was nothing like the media painting.


27 posted on 12/20/2012 2:45:06 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Jacquerie
The BATF found a phony threat and executed 76 Americans without trial, all in the name of more funding.

Cut the cr@p. The BAFT didn't "execute" anyone.

28 posted on 12/20/2012 2:50:21 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: baddog 219
The ATF had a search warrant for the compound. What good would picking up Koresh in town do?

The Branch Davidians fired the first shots. Everything that followed flowed from that criminal act of murder.

29 posted on 12/20/2012 2:53:59 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Stayfree
Don't forget Elian Gonzalez! This is no bb gun!


30 posted on 12/20/2012 2:54:14 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

Don’t forget Jonestown where 276 children died. Jim Jones was a creation of ultra liberal San Francisco.


31 posted on 12/20/2012 2:59:41 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: fwdude

Yes, it did. Cut your own crap.


32 posted on 12/20/2012 3:10:46 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Former Fetus

When you want to assault the citizenry you need an assault rifle.


33 posted on 12/20/2012 3:11:02 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: fwdude

What is your interest in defending a murderous government?


34 posted on 12/20/2012 3:12:02 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: fwdude

You ignored the reason for the confrontation. Money for ATF. How noble.


35 posted on 12/20/2012 3:13:48 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie
I have no interest in defending anything but the truth.

I'm sure you also defend those rioting anarchist student at Kent state in the early 70's as well?

36 posted on 12/20/2012 3:21:57 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
The Branch Davidians fired the first shots.

Yeah, I remember, the Branch Davidian tanks were firing incendiary rounds at a wooden building housing the US Army's Delta Force tanks, overwhelming them, so they fired back using equal force.

Oh wait...

37 posted on 12/20/2012 3:24:02 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: fwdude
This was a diabolical cult lead by a tyrannical, child-raping criminal.

Why federal involvement? Did TX childcare services advise the ATF? No.

What was your interest in killing them?

38 posted on 12/20/2012 3:26:51 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I know you slept a few times since this event, so brush up on the facts before you shoot off nonsense.


39 posted on 12/20/2012 3:27:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Jacquerie

Ownership of a Janet Reno cheesecake poster?


40 posted on 12/20/2012 3:27:41 PM PST by relictele
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To: fwdude

Cut the crap yourself.
The murder by grandstanding federal agents is a blight on America’s history and you are a pimple on FR’s butt.
Go lick some more jackboots.

I am so fed up with the anti-freedom statists like you I could hurl.


41 posted on 12/20/2012 3:33:48 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: fwdude

Cut the crap yourself.
The murder by grandstanding federal agents is a blight on America’s history and you are a pimple on FR’s butt.
Go lick some more jackboots.

I am so fed up with the anti-freedom statists like you I could hurl.


42 posted on 12/20/2012 3:34:00 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: fwdude

Oh, yeah, I think I have it right this time.

It was the Clinton-rumpswab, US Army General Weasely Clark, who saved those poor victimized women and children by burning them to death. (isn’t there a law against using the military against civilians...Posse comi-something?)

Oh, well at least Attorney General Reno claimed full responsibility for that murderous act of domestic terrorism, and he is now serving several consecutive life sentences for the murders...Right?


43 posted on 12/20/2012 3:34:25 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: fwdude

Let it go, let it go. I argued some of these points a few years back and was called a jack-booted thug enabler, leftist poser, etc...

First shots fired were by Davidians, what happen after that was a tragedy and all the evidence god and bad was scrubbed by the Clintoons and Bis Sis.


44 posted on 12/20/2012 3:37:49 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: relictele
Ownership of a Janet Reno cheesecake poster?

Now hear this. All hands man your eyewash stations!

45 posted on 12/20/2012 3:38:49 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Again, NO, the AG and ATF did NOT "murder" these people. They died in a fire that started in the opposite side of the building from where any tear gas was injected (tear gas does NOT produce fires.)

If anyone is guilt of murder, it's those who PREVENTED these people from leaving of their own free will. Very much like the Jonestown massacre.

46 posted on 12/20/2012 3:39:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I know. I got into it with some name-callers a while back on this same issue. And don't even get them started on Ellian Gonzales. A young boy is kidnapped and separated from his FATHER who wanted him back, and we're called mean names for wanting to restore him to his parent.

I wonder who the real thugs are sometime.

47 posted on 12/20/2012 3:42:53 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

So...you’re claiming the Branch Davidians were bulldozing their own building while they were still inside it, AND setting it on fire, thus murdering themselves.


48 posted on 12/20/2012 3:43:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: fwdude; ROCKLOBSTER; hoosierham

Yeah, Janet Reno himself said there were “rumors of child abuse.”

That justified anything and everything for an increase in funding, right?

You still haven’t answered my simple questions.


49 posted on 12/20/2012 3:45:55 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: fwdude
Sorry. Law enforcement was right on this one.

So just how do you get that boot polish taste out of your mouth from licking the JBT boots...

Ever see the FLIR footage of the snipers (Lon Horiuchi) shooting down innocent women and child trying to escape the flames from the back of the building forcing them back in to die ?

Ever see the FLIR footage of the tanks at the back of the building running over people?

How is law enforcement ever right in using tanks to tear down buildings with women and child in it?

50 posted on 12/20/2012 3:47:01 PM PST by Popman (Gun control will not really control guns, but it will give the illusion of controlling people)
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