Skip to comments.Speaker Pelosi 2014 (Vanity)
Posted on 12/20/2012 5:22:16 PM PST by indianrightwinger
By defeating the Speaker tonight, the GOP delegation in the House gave him the blank check to cut lousy deals with the lousiest President of all times that will pass with Democratic votes. Mark this day. It leads to Democratic control of the House in 2014 at worst or significantly reduced (bare) majority for the GOP.
This is the most suicidal political outcome I have ever seen. Good luck!
Likely there are very few votes to win. We'll see what happens.
The stupid party ought to just hand Nazi Poopsi the hammer back right now.
The GOP is the Scottish nobles from Braveheart. They are last people you want to go to battle with at your back.
It would be nice to know what actually happened, since the news is still coming-in. But at first glance, it does seem that it leaves blood in the water for Obama and his minion.
Boehner should not have put out Plan B in the first place-since Republicans had a mandate not to raise taxes on anyone-not even millionaires.
Therefore, the congressmen who listened to their constituents are not wrong-Boehner tried to ignore them, fire them from committees, etc, and his strong-arming didn’t work. The Republicans need to find out the people are serious about getting back a conservative country.
I am confused.
If boner can’t get this deal through the house, tell me how he is going to get the lousy deals you envision through the house?
I don’t get it. Most here wanted the fiscal cliff, and we are now one step closer to it. Why are so many wetting their pants over this? Like I said, I don’t get it.
Two years is a long way away. Who knows what will be happening between then and now. I predict Iran will have the bomb. I predict the deficit will be about 1500 billion a year. I predict that gold and silver will be a lot higher per ounce. I predict that there will be a serious third party forming.
He tried the strongarm routine & it backfired.
With Democrat votes. Duh!!
So earlier we were supposed to oppose Plan B because it raised taxes and had no clear spending cuts.
Now we are supposed to be angry because we killed it?
I’m confused. Can someone make a banner of what we are supposed to think about something and keep it up to date?
Don't be such a fatalist. A lot can still happen.
Boehner may not keep his Speakership if this continues.
Then they said we were supposed to support it because it lowered taxes.
He'll just co-sign the executive orders.
Louie Gohmert for Speaker of the House
We need a speaker that actually speaks for us.
It was a vote of no confidence on bonehead and thugs .
He needs to resign .
I suspect his stupid comment about the 2nd amendment review
Pissed off a lot of Voters and the offices were flooded with calls about The k street bagman .
He needs to leave now !
I realize you wrote that in jest, but like so many jests, it may have hit on the truth.
Nothing he does would surprise me.
Now about executive orders.
I suppose that he could use an executive order to extend an existing law, which of course we would like.
But I doubt if the court would uphold the creation of any new tax law, which any increase in any tax would be, by executive order.
Yeah. A more conservative speaker will emerge and take on President Obama. Get the public on his side. Turn the public against the President. Oh yeah. All that will happen. Surely it must!
Yes that was the Karl Rove logic !
The reason was to save the K street thugs and there
Military contractors and all the other Beltway bandits inflated budgets !
OK, so how about telling us what your solution is.
Sniping from the peanut gallery does not add anything to solving the problem.
Let me explain to the “conservatives” what was supposed to happen. And, that is to extend THE MOST of the Bush tax cuts as possible in this damn political climate. All else is BS.
I asked elsewhere, what would compell House Republicans to want to sign up for two more years of this thug behavior of threatening committee seats after seeing this behavior played out, when they have a way out at their disposal?
The Speaker should be taking on the do-nothing Senate and Harry Reid. We know why Reid hasn't moved any legislation forward - it's because anything he does will instantly be labeled the Democrat position. They feel it's better to just keep whacking away at the Republican position because the MSM will never call them on not having a Democrat position to debate.
The Speaker should force Reid to have to work with Obama. Make the MSM talk about that, instead.
Simple. Protect 99.8% of tax payers from expiring Bush tax cuts. Period.
First bonner is not a republican .
He is the k
Street bagman and so is cantor and McCarthy and Ryan !
They gutted away the conservatives , then talked about gun control and then used pelosi deal !
The rank and file are not stupid !
They want bonner and his crooked k street thugs gone way before 2014 !
Do you recall Bush’s “Read my lips, no new taxes”?
And do you recall what happened to him?
How much better off will you be with all of those Tea Party conservatives replaced by dims?
When people of character shake your hand and tell you that it is a deal, there is no more discussion about whether or how it is to be a deal. It is a done deal.
Whether it is a good strategic move to change the deal is not even a matter for discussion. It is a deal.
What you and boner suggest is that all of those conservative house members should take the attitude of the GA senator who says that its a promise made years ago and it is OK to go back on it.
Not for those who have ethics. Its called character.
There are no more Patrick Henrys.
Boehner may not keep his Speakership if this continues
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As screwed up as the R’s are, they will try to oust “BO’s favorite Boner” and Pelosi will end up as Speaker.
Which in itself may not be bad BUT the D’s will quickly hop on the issue that nothing can be done because of the ‘do nothing R’s, who couldn’t even take advantage of their majority status’.
That may ‘wake up’ the R’s, but I actually think ‘we’ are lucky that ‘we’ kept the House, the way everything else went.
D’s probably thought the lead was uncatchable this time and didn’t waste any time or effort to regain it....
House to Recess for Christmas with the Bush tax cuts for the RICH, oops, I mean Bush tax cuts for everyone to expire.
I think, let the rats own it. Let them own the increased taxes on everyone. The rats have lied for years about the current tax structure. Saying repeatedly that the Bush tax cuts were only for the “rich”.
Democrats have a majority in the House?
Get rid of *Boner* and start defunding every bit of Obobo crap they can.
The House is under Republican control and they control the purse strings, damn it!
If boner had any balls, he would remind obumbler that he has a long 4 years ahead of him. There will be budgets, deficit ceilings, lots of appropriations bills that involve stuff that the voters care nothing about, like the EPA, Commerce, State, etc., that the ordinary voter cares nothing about one way or the other and that if this tax thing continues as it is headed now, the next 4 years is going to be very unpleasant for the president.
We're screwed anyways if things continue in this vein.
I'd rather see the GOP go down swinging.
I think there are quorum rules for this vote, where a vote for present is not a vote for Pelosi. I read some threads about it last week. It sounds more like a caucus vote - you keep voting until someone crosses a threshold or someone drops out.
If Boehner gets what is essentially a "no confidence" vote, would he continue to run and twist arms stronger, or would he drop out and let someone else be Speaker?
House did good in rejecting the bill. Boehner’s fault for putting it out without any support. Tea Party is mad at Boehner.
“By defeating the Speaker tonight, the GOP delegation in the House gave him the blank check to cut lousy deals”
This makes no sense. Defeating Plan B means Boehner cannot pass a plan and is thus powerless. It’s the cliff baby...
They will have to make sure that it’s done in a way that doesn’t split the ticket and let Pelosi have the most votes
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From what they have recently shown etc, I don’t believe they have enough sense to pull it off.
Naturally, I hope I am wrong but I don’t have much confidence in them. Especially since Boner tried his scorched earth policy so he must feel he has enough votes to keep his seat, otherwise he wouldn’t have purged the Conservatives....
Gohmert is fine; so is Issa.
If the Senate won’t even vote on Plan B and even if they did and it passed, Obama has said he would veto it, what was the purpose in even bringing it up?
Why not just bring Plan A up for a vote? It would face a similar fate, but at least it would PASS the House. This maneuver just makes Boehner look weak.
The public is simple and saw only Boner defending the 1%. We need a Speaker that can express his way out of a paper bag. ............Bye, bye Boner.