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Boehner seen holding top post despite purge
Washington Times ^ | 12/12/12 | By David Sherfinski and Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 12/20/2012 6:43:57 PM PST by jimbo123

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To: jimbo123

Am I the only one that thinks that “plan b” was a good political (not good policy) move that Boehner was trying to make? It was never going to become law. We are going over the fiscal cliff. Obama is dead set on it, and now he will be able to blame us for the higher tax rates.

Plan b was about calling Obama’s bluff on wanting a “balanced” solution. By offering him 90% of what he claims he wants, only to have him reject the offer, we might have been able to finally gain the upper hand. Every Democrat up for election in 2 years would have to explain why they wouldn’t vote for what was originally Nancy Pelosi’s plan to retain some of the lower tax rates. Now we’re the ones holding out to get 100% of what we want. Now we’re the obstrutionists. We’re the reason everyone’s taxes will go up.

After decades of capitulation on issue after issue. Is this really where we want to make a stand?


51 posted on 12/20/2012 9:16:35 PM PST by dpat
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To: tennmountainman
RE :”I am looking forward to telling u I told u so”

That is going to be difficult because you just won a HUGE victory tonight that spells disaster for this nation.

This will lead, as I have posted many times, to Republicans signing terms of surrender that in comparison will prove plan B to what would of been a huge victory.

Your win tonight will be a curse on this nation.

52 posted on 12/20/2012 9:19:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

You are wrong.
You were too blind to see a backlash was about to happen.
If this country goes to hell iit won’t be because we tax too much.
It will be because we collapse under the weight of out of control spending.
And when that happens, it really doesn’t matter what tax rates are.
You will be dumpster diving like the rest of us to survive.

I suggest u quit making predictions. You are not very good at it.


53 posted on 12/20/2012 9:32:30 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ArmstedFragg; what's up; Arthurio; dan on the right; Perdogg
RE :”We’re at war, and half our forces are trying to pretend the enemy doesn’t want us all dead. Jeeze!!”

The crazy part is that in the past I have taken heat HEAT here for posting comments against RINOs: McCain, Boehner and McConnell when many of these nut-bags were supporting them,
Yet I see no point in helping Dems completely destroying their only opposition Rs so they can rule unchallenged. Some of these folks seem to want to be under Dem total rule because they LOVE living like a cult.

54 posted on 12/20/2012 9:36:39 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: tennmountainman
RE :”You are wrong.
You were too blind to see a backlash was about to happen.
If this country goes to hell iit won’t be because we tax too much.”

You have a problem. You claim you won a big victory against tax increases tonight and then when all our taxes go up as a result you will claim that you were right?

My predictions will come true unlike YOURS, Obama will win BIG because of your victory today.

55 posted on 12/20/2012 9:42:44 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

You could not even see the backlash happening on Plan B, like most of
us here could. Once again there will be a fiscal cliff deal. Bonehead will
rely on democrats to pass it. Taxes will go up on the rich, just as u want.
The only difference is Bonehead will get the votes of Rats, instead of
conservatives to pass it.
You will get what u want!


56 posted on 12/20/2012 9:56:14 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: sickoflibs

And BTW,
Don’t blame me if Bonehead and Cantor can’t count votes before they
commit to bringing up a bill for a vote.
Bonehead and Cantor should have discussed this with the members
instead of trying to ram it through Pelosi style.


57 posted on 12/20/2012 10:00:16 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
RE :”You will get what u want!”

NO I wont, you just raised my taxes and destroyed the economy with your big win today. You got what you want.,

58 posted on 12/20/2012 10:00:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: tennmountainman
You got exactly what you wanted.

My taxes go up

Obama gets to spend it

GOP gets the blame

Someone working for O couldn't have done a better job on this than you did, they should give you a give you a BIG pat on the back.

Your Marxist won big win-win tonight, celebrate.

59 posted on 12/20/2012 10:08:45 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

Baa waa waa.
Go cry to your mother. I’m not a social worker.
It was u that engaged in class warfare like the democrats.

This plan u liked so much was Pelosi’s Plan before It was Bonehead’s
plan. Bonehead and Cantor should dicuss these bills with their members
before trying to shove it down members throats... Pelosi style.


60 posted on 12/20/2012 10:31:42 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: jimbo123

61 posted on 12/21/2012 12:14:30 AM PST by mirkwood (It takes a village to elect the village idiot.)
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To: jimbo123

Cantor is SO WEAK.....can’t stand to listen to him.


62 posted on 12/21/2012 1:39:01 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: plain talk

If they wont step up and challenge Him,then they should have just voted for the Bill,otherwise what the Hell is the point


63 posted on 12/21/2012 3:41:01 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: sickoflibs
Your win tonight will be a curse on this nation.

Political apparatchiks are a curse on this nation.

64 posted on 12/21/2012 4:29:05 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: tennmountainman

Look, if you were right and your defeat of this bill keeps our taxes from going up in January I will admit I was wrong here.

But you should similarly show some honor (good luck) when our taxes go up in January as a result of your victory here and admit your role (with Pelosi and Obama) of your destruction of America.


65 posted on 12/21/2012 4:44:03 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Perkalong

“Now is the time to SMASH the GOP, send it to the ash heap, and build a genuine, grass-roots, CONSERVATIVE party.”

Good luck with that. Try to organize three conservatives to oppose a sidewalk tax in a village. Conservatives couldn’t organize a hamburger line at a picnic table.


66 posted on 12/21/2012 6:37:39 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: ncalburt
Do you believe everything printed on the Internet ?

This is a pr piece placed in this rag to scare off Challenges and support for getting rid if this k street stooge !

It’s called pr by boneheads owners . The DC insiders !

This is the Washington Times, a conservative newspaper, not "a rag". Seth McLaughlin and David Sherfinski are reputable reporters and hardly "DC insiders". Try to learn about things before popping off.

67 posted on 12/21/2012 6:51:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: tennmountainman

“I suggest u quit making predictions. You are not very good at it.”

I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of this troll.


68 posted on 12/21/2012 7:16:20 AM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

I won’t go as far to call him a troll.
He has been a FR member since 1998.
i.e he has done well to last that long.
He and and a few others here just had a difference of opinion
about this particular issue.
However, he does seem to lack the ability to see how this
issue would create a backlash. Which it did.
He does not have the ability to realize that feepers here
were divided here about this issue, which meant it should
not have been a surprise to see the GOP House ended
up being divided about this issue, as well.


69 posted on 12/21/2012 10:07:40 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

His irrational responses to legitimate questions pegged him to me as a mental case or an illegitimate conservative.

Or, could have just been a little, spineless greedy person who is only interested in his own personal situation rather than thinking of what is good for the country.


70 posted on 12/21/2012 12:59:26 PM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

I think it was more sinister than that. He was trying to Who-Do conservatives by forcing them to abandon their principals and vote for a
Tax increase. Bonehead knew that if he just could get them to vote for
tax increases, most of them would not have been re-elected in 2014.
For Bonehead and Cantor and the DC Party, it was an opportunity to rid
Themselves of those Pesky Tea-party Congresscritters.
And get back to the ways of DC.


71 posted on 12/21/2012 1:08:51 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: COBOL2Java

BS
Try learning about the facts of the crooked media in
Hell hole DC !
These are DC insiders who play to those on power !


72 posted on 12/21/2012 7:12:58 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: tennmountainman

So your prediction is coming true !
Paul Ryan is replacing bonehead !


73 posted on 12/21/2012 8:27:15 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: ncalburt
BS
Try learning about the facts of the crooked media in
Hell hole DC !
These are DC insiders who play to those on power !

Oh really? I happen to know those two reporters personally. Maybe you should remember to speak out of the correct orifice.

Dumbass...

74 posted on 12/22/2012 7:51:08 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: ncalburt

I never predicted Paul Ryan was going to be speaker.
There is mutiny in the air. However, I do not know how the wind blows.
We shall see.


75 posted on 12/22/2012 9:23:40 AM PST by tennmountainman
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