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4 Dead, 3 State Troopers Injured After Blair County Church Shooting
KDKA ^ | 12/21/12 | Staff

Posted on 12/21/2012 11:06:52 AM PST by P.O.E.

BLAIR COUNTY, Pa. (KDKA) — Emergency officials are on the scene of a deadly shooting in Frankstown Township, in Blair County.

Right now, sources tell KDKA-TV that four people are dead, and three Pennsylvania State Troopers were also hurt, but are expected to be okay.

Sources say at least part of the shooting took place at the Juniata Valley Gospel Church.

Troopers responded to a 9-1-1 shots fired call about 9 a.m. Additional 9-1-1 calls reported an armed man shooting at additional locations.

According to sources, two troopers were fired at by the driver of a pickup truck on Juniata Valley Road and a third officer was injured in a head-on crash with the pickup.

Sources say the suspect was Jeffrey Lee Michael of Hollidaysburg, Pa.

Michael exited the truck and immediately shot at troopers. Troopers returned fire, killing Michael.

One trooper was hit by two bullets, one in the chest area, which hit his body armor. A second bullet hit the trooper in the wrist. A second trooper was injured from shattered glass, and shrapnel to the face from the gunfire. A third trooper was injured in the motor vehicle crash.

No word on the three people Michael’s allegedly killed before firing at troopers.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; churchshooting; juniatavalley; leo; pashooting; shooting

1 posted on 12/21/2012 11:07:01 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; PaulZe; ...
PA Ping!

If you see posts of interest to Pennsylvanians, please ping me.

Thanks!

2 posted on 12/21/2012 11:08:59 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

ABC is now reporting that it happened over several miles of rural road.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 11:13:36 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: P.O.E.

Just pinged you on the first thread about this:

“PA again! Yesterday in Beaver, 3 black CHILDREN shot and murdered a young white woman for telling them to get a job. And today, this. What the hell is going on in PA???”


4 posted on 12/21/2012 11:15:14 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: P.O.E.

Here we go again. It’s amazing how these things happen one after another. I’m putting on my tin-foil, sometimes I wonder.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 11:16:13 AM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: P.O.E.

“Sources say the suspect was on a rural road in the Altoona – Hollidaysburg area shooting at random.”

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/12/21/4-dead-3-state-troopers-injured-in-blair-county-shooting-2/


No rhyme or reason to these things anymore.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 11:16:19 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: MestaMachine

No, the get a job killing happened a while ago[weeks?], its just that The Blaze or some other outfit carried the story or it was put on FR, and the date wasn’t looked out.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 11:19:10 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the ping to the earlier thread on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2971133/posts

(different title didn’t show up when I searched)

You’re right, this is getting way out of hand.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 11:27:21 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: MestaMachine

The gun grabbers have spent decades setting up gun free zones and anti-gun states across the country to use as straw men for a problem that doesn’t exist in those states that respect the right of the people to defend themselves.

It will never come out into the light during our lifetimes, but I can guarantee that at some point it will be learned that forces much higher up the chain than those of us down here in the trenches made the decision to use patsies in these gun-free bastions of supposed freedom and liberty to forward an agenda against the rest of us.

It only requires a tireless minority to inflict great harm against those of us who are willing to be self-sustaining and personally responsible for our well-being and that of our brethren.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 11:28:59 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: chessplayer

It’s a mathematical fact that nothing is random. It may be part of a very long, protracted series of events, but it is repeatable and likely part of a plan that has been in motion for a very long time.

The Roman empire fell under similar circumstances. It’s only a matter of time before America falls to the same fate.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 11:30:34 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Theoria

Okay, thanks. Still, it’s getting way too close to home.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 11:30:44 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: P.O.E.

This is already being spun.

http://gawker.com/5970497/while-the-nra-was-on-tv-talking-about-the-need-for-more-guns-some-guy-was-walking-up-and-down-a-road-in-pennsylvania-shooting-people


12 posted on 12/21/2012 11:33:17 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nowhere Man
There are shootings every day in a country of 300 million.

It's just that you're hearing about them more now.

13 posted on 12/21/2012 11:36:20 AM PST by what's up
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To: mylife

It took someone with a firearm to stop him.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 11:38:13 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Agreed.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 11:41:08 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: P.O.E.

Probably a domestic issue....


16 posted on 12/21/2012 11:42:34 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: rarestia; Nowhere Man

I think this is 0bama’s Fast and Furious II.

He has not been prosecuting gun violations for 4 years and he is getting the result he has hoped for.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 11:52:25 AM PST by zeebee
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To: P.O.E.

So it is apparent that the state-run media is targeting the 2nd Amendment for His Majesty’s second four-year reign.

Just as they shoved the daily body count of the Iraq war in our faces every night on the evening news during Bush’s presidency (and went oddly silent on the body count after they put a communist in the White House even though 2/3s of all deaths and casualties occurred under Obammie the Commie’s first four year reign) so we are going to have every single shooting in the country reported as breaking news and shoved in our faces every day until we all say, ENOUGH, TAKE OUR DAMN GUNS JUST LEAVE US ALONE.

300,000,000 firearms in the US today hurt no one.

They only glorify the bad news to push their statist, communist agenda.

Molon Labe


18 posted on 12/21/2012 11:52:25 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: P.O.E.

A thread on a couple of PA school incidents.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2971154/posts


19 posted on 12/21/2012 11:56:43 AM PST by deport
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To: mylife

Now THAT is a new wrinkle, randomly shooting even while driving.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 12:03:24 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: chessplayer
“Sources say the suspect was...shooting at random.”

Who is Random and what did he do to piss this guy off?

21 posted on 12/21/2012 12:03:36 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: MestaMachine

It’s zer0 time. Tell black chllins to get a job. Get shot.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 12:09:53 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Most likely he killed the victims at the church and then was engaged on the road by police.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 12:12:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rarestia

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of the citizen to bear arms is just one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.” - Hubert Humphrey(bitter clinger), 1960

“Gun bans don’t disarm criminals, gun bans attract them.”- Walter Mondale, U.S. Ambassador to Japan(bitter clinger), April 20, 1994


24 posted on 12/21/2012 12:16:41 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Vaquero

And then they went and posted pictures of themselves on facebook pointing their guns at the camera. Two of the kids were 8 and 9 years old. The oldest was 14. They were bugging the lady’s boyfriend for cigarettes. When she told them to get off the streets and get a job, they just pulled a frikking gun and shot her point blank....like it was nothing.
She was 23 years old with a young baby.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 12:17:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: P.O.E.

I wonder if this Church was a “Gun Free Zone” like my Church? I refuse to obey ridiculous prohibitions that place the safety of others in jeopardy.

EODGUY


26 posted on 12/21/2012 1:13:08 PM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: EODGUY
I wonder if this Church was a “Gun Free Zone” like my Church?

Maybe it's because of being Texas or it could be that the extremely Conservative church of Christ (small 'c' -- not Jeremiah Wright's lunatic asylum) just sees things differently but my congregation is far from a gun free zone. The preacher carries and, likewise, a good percentage of those of us worshiping on Sundays (and, of course, Wednesday night). Any thug trying to make off with the collection plate will be greeted with a hail of hot lead through the head just before he enters eternal damnation. The Second Amendment means a lot to us -- and is right up there with Acts 2:38 as far as most of us at the coC are concerned.

In my opinion, a church is definitely among the places where guns should be welcomed. America was built on a foundation of God and guns. They are absolutely inseparable.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 2:19:49 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Amen, my friend.

EODGUY


28 posted on 12/21/2012 3:03:19 PM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: what's up
There are shootings every day in a country of 300 million.
It's just that you're hearing about them more now.

The media will never report a story where a weapon saved lives. First, it doesn't suit their liberal agenda. Second, no crime was committed - people lived. No crime means no ratings.
Good news never sells in our culture of death. If a story doesn't shock or frighten, it's tossed aside.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 3:29:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: re_nortex

And even if it is about just God, if you pay attention to the Bible, it tells you not to be unarmed and that Jesus himself didn’t have a problem with self-defense or defensive preparations/arms.

Luke 22:35-38 comes immediately to mind.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 3:32:05 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tbpiper

You sound like my wife reacting to “Fire at will.”


31 posted on 12/21/2012 3:54:31 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: Nowhere Man

These people are drawn to the publicity as a moth to the light.

Which raises an issue for some of us. If you’re legally able to carry a firearm — CCW holder, off-duty officer, whatever, isn’t it almost your duty to do so in times like this?

And if you live in a shall-issue state, isn’t it almost your duty to get trained and licensed?

Been much on my mind lately. As has Dave Grossman’s admonition: “If you are a warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be “on” 24/7 for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself... “Baa.”


32 posted on 12/21/2012 4:00:25 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: concerned about politics

Maybe, the NRA and/or some of the conservative groups should take out a full page ad in Newspapers and TVs all over the nation that provides the list, and periodically adds to it?


33 posted on 12/21/2012 4:20:51 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: P.O.E.
Troopers returned fire, killing Michael.

Good. It's the best way to save the taxpayers money and ensure that this guy will never kill again.

34 posted on 12/21/2012 4:40:41 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: P.O.E.
Frankstown Township

More small town senseless mass murders...

35 posted on 12/21/2012 4:48:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mylife; the OlLine Rebel
Most likely he killed the victims at the church and then was engaged on the road by police.

Yep...

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Horror as four dead and three state troopers injured at Pennsylvania church shooting

One female victim had been decorating a church hall for a children's Christmas party

Three people have been shot dead near a rural Pennsylvania church today before the gunman was killed by police.

State police say the shooter killed three people, then exchanged gunfire with troopers rushing to the scene. Troopers fatally shot him after his pickup crashed into one of their cruisers, injuring three officers.

36 posted on 12/21/2012 4:54:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: P.O.E.
I stopped someone cold today with, "there's a shooting everyday in OBAMA'S hometown"...the conversation changed. Then hit them with this.... The war zone-like statistics are not new. As WBEZ reports, while some 2,000 U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001, more than 5,000 people have been killed by gun fire in Chicago during that time, based on Department of Defense and FBI data.
37 posted on 12/21/2012 5:35:10 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: re_nortex

“In my opinion, a church is definitely among the places where guns should be welcomed...... America was built on a foundation of God and guns..... They are absolutely inseparable....”

I think about that often, how God looks at a situation where you might have to shoot and kill someone in self-defense....Is it a lack of faith that I wasn’t protected?....”There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling”.......I mean, there is such a thing as supernatural protection “He shall encamp angels about thee, to lift thee up, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone”.......One of the mysteries to be revealed at the last day.....


38 posted on 12/21/2012 5:38:28 PM PST by 3722535r
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To: mylife

if the media was consistent qnd objective they’d run an obama death count clock for the everday murders in major us cities ever day.

never hear a peep aout inner city murders that go on all the time...


39 posted on 12/21/2012 5:40:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
never hear a peep aout inner city murders that go on all the time.

It's because typical murders occur all the time, in rural and urban areas. However, there seems to be an uptick regarding these senseless mass murders in rural or smaller towns in recent years.

When a bunch of totally innocent people are killed all at one time, it always makes bigger news.

40 posted on 12/21/2012 5:54:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Doogle

The rise in anti-social behavior - in fact, the celebration of it - is troubling, and an ill wind.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 6:44:28 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 3722535r
a church is definitely among the places where guns should be welcomed......

When I was very, very young, we went to a church that had the altar at the front (when you walked in).

Because it was built so the congregation could watch for attacks by Indian savages.

42 posted on 12/21/2012 6:46:41 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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