Posted on 12/21/2012 11:46:44 AM PST by rarestia
Do you agree with the NRA that an armed officer should be posted in every school? Yes(72%) No(28%)
But putting yet another union goon on the payroll, sucking up benefits, enjoying long vacations, and in the end, doing the job that anyone else at that school COULD do is a massive waste of funds and time.
The school in CT invested more than $50,000 in electronic locks to ‘secure’ the school, where $5,000 in guns, ammo and training would have made a real difference. So the ‘solution’ is to pay someone $85-90k a year to do the same thing that $5,000 would do?
Only a government could even imagine thinking in these terms.
Then you will have another subsidized government intervention that is broken. Why not just keep the criminals in jail.
Until the justice system is overhauled and criminals are treated as criminals instead of victims, then you can expect no end in sight. No penalty for breaking the law equates to no reason to obey the law.
If you’re going to hire more law enforcement peronnel, make them prison guards.
Let school administrators and teachers train and provide the protection.
A gun “safe” in every office/class/storage/lunch room with card key access.... the real estate industry uses a very good system to validate/control card keys... fast and easy to open...
There ARE officers in many schools. Go to nasro.org
Placing armed guards at every US school is going to be an expensive proposition.
In my town, unruly children rule. Fights, and I mean truly vicious battles, among young people are not uncommon. My daughter can tell you of ripped-out hair and blood in the halls after a girls’ fight. The schools move heaven and earth to keep the violence a secret, and they do not call for police assistance, except as a last resort. Politicians and school officials want to public to think that violence “is minimal.” When one of my children was in elementary school, he told us that every so often a “kill day” was declared by the cliques. On those days, one child would be designated as the target, and it would be, for instance, “Kill Billy Day.” That child would be tormented and beaten, and teachers and staff simply looked the other way. Maybe we've come to the point in our civilization where armed guards are the only option left. Sad.
My first worry is another 500,000 Federal employees at $100,000/year.
I think LaPierre was right to propose this as an equal measure against what Obama and Left are proposing simply to meet them on the same “high ground” they purport to occupy. The unwashed masses, those people who are agnostic on guns and just go with whatever Big Brother says, will be more apt to get behind a proposal that puts law enforcement at the schools than they would be to get behind a proposal that arms teachers and administrators.
The cry from the Left and from teachers unions, specifically, would be so loud as to be deafening if it was mandated that schools be armed. They would likely outright refuse. And given the media’s maligning of guns and framing of your average citizen as a potential “criminal in waiting” just because they’re armed, the unwashed public would likely fall in line with the media narrative but would not be swayed on the LEO line since they view LEOs as their protectors.
It’s an incremental step to divert the discussion away from gun bans and allows the NRA a little breathing room. I’m by no means advocating for this, I’m simply saying it was a bold political move on the part of the NRA. They’re actually offering a solution instead of wobbling on their stance. They’re in a tough spot. People identify as parents to the death of children. To propose MORE guns to people who are middle-of-the-road on the subject would require more education than the media is going to allow to occur.
All I know is that into the 80s we high school kids were allowed to bring guns to school for hunting after and there were no school shootings at my school.
There were a few common sense rules that were followed but it all seemed fine. If we drove the gun had to stay locked in our vehicle. Guns weren’t allowed on the bus so a parent had to take us and the gun went to the principal’s office for the day.
I remember standing in the principal’s office while he was gawking at a big ole .44 revolver a well to do friend brought to school but didn’t want to leave in his truck.
I would much rather they got rid of some of the expensive administrators and put the money into armed guards - seems to me it would be money much better spent. School districts are way too top-heavy with administrators as it is.
Actually, I do not want police officers in schools, because the vast majority of the time they will spend arresting students for petty violations of the law. They are *required* to do this.
Schools can and do hire armed security guards, and that serves the same purpose. They were doing this back in the 1970s. It works.
Funny... due to some very vague “end of the world” facebook threat locally... every local school had an armed guard today. Mostly police, some other departments. My daughter’s high school and my other daughter’s charter elementary school.
I didn’t notice anyone locally complaining. Then again, this is rural Arizona :)
Hey Wayne, why promote the 2nd Amendment and then suggest The State bear arms and provide the security?
FAIL
Unacceptable! Either tell your school this isn't right, and you will not stand for it, or move somewhere else. I do not deny that our culture has raised a certain segment of ferrel, loutish, dangerous youth, but that is VERY different from trying to guard against the next totally random and extremely rare massacre by a lunatic.
There are something like 125,000 schools in this country so your number probably isn’t far off.
Our family decided that public school violence in our town had gotten to the point where we opted for parochial and private schools, even if we had to economize on vacations and other little luxuries to pay for it. After that, peace settled in our house again, and the anxiety we’d been living with faded into a memory.
Yes, 75%
“Having armed guards at schools? Ridiculous idea. Our society didn’t need them before, and we don’t need them now. It won’t happen anyway”
Um…. it’s happening right now, right down the street from me. I live in Connecticut, about 10 miles from Sandy Hook elementary. Since last Friday, there’s been a police car at every school in town, all day, until the kids have gone home.
Interestingly this has converted, in a 180-degree turn, schools in Connecticut from “gun free zones” into “gun-protected zones”. The powers-that-be who control school policy here (mostly left-leaning) have jettisoned their liberal feel-good law for something much more “rightward” that actually might work.
However, I also noted an article today in which the teacher’s organizations are SCREAMING in response to Wayne LaPierre’s suggestion for an armed presence within schools, including armed teachers. This may work in _some_ places, but it’s definitely NOT going to be accepted by most school districts within the “blue states”, at least.
No. It was armed private security—not an “officer.”
Well, whatever. I’ll agree with it anyway. Let the anti-Second-Amendment elites argue over that.
That makes as much sense as anything else.
The only downside is armed guards and cavity searches would remove the last discernible differences between government schools and prisons...
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