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Eric Cantor plays loyal lieutenant to Boehner
Washington Post ^ | 12/18/12 | Rosalind S. Helderman,

Posted on 12/21/2012 12:36:49 PM PST by jimbo123

In a breach of bedrock conservative principles, House Speaker John A. Boehner laid out a proposal Tuesday to allow tax rates to rise for Americans making more than $1 million a year.

And standing side by side with Boehner as he outlined what many Republicans consider an apostasy — but what Boehner argues is the only way to spare most people from a tax increase — was House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who has worked hard in recent months to play the loyal lieutenant.

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Cantor was a top collaborator in Boehner's conservative purge. Didn't work out well for him last night and now he's going to have to beg House GOP members to vote for the Obama/Reid/McConnell plan? Idiot.
1 posted on 12/21/2012 12:36:56 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Eric Cantor = FIRST CLASS SUCK-ASS!


2 posted on 12/21/2012 12:40:39 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: jimbo123

He has to go also.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 12:42:29 PM PST by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: jimbo123

Jimbo
That’s why these three stooges need to go.
Fire Bonehead, Cantor and McCarthy. All are stooges for the K-Street crowd.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 12:42:35 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: jimbo123

cantor... like boner... is a progressive back stabbing liar.

LLS


5 posted on 12/21/2012 12:44:07 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: jimbo123

I feel like I am living inside a sci-fi B movie of the week...and there is no escape.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 12:48:03 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: jimbo123
Funny how we have all these calls to get rid of leadership here but no real suggestions to take their places.

Some were suggesting Gingrich until he came out yesterday for gay marriage LOL.

7 posted on 12/21/2012 12:48:32 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Bachmann and Ryan are two that come to mind... both a hell of a lot better than anyone that is there now.

LLS


8 posted on 12/21/2012 12:57:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: what's up

This One:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Gohmert


9 posted on 12/21/2012 12:59:38 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

So you think Bachmann and/or Ryan could get spending reduced? And how exactly would they get more support for their plan than Boehner?


10 posted on 12/21/2012 1:01:15 PM PST by what's up
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To: LibLieSlayer

No on Bachmann(too FLAKEY),
and NO on Ryan(too damaged and too Close to boner and the Boys).


11 posted on 12/21/2012 1:01:48 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

And how would Gohmert’s plan have a better chance at making it through the legislative process?


12 posted on 12/21/2012 1:02:59 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Just a heads up everyone. If you check the posting history of “What’s Up” for the past few weeks, you will discover he has been working overtime to excuse the behavior of the GOP and to disrupt any discussion about conservatives abandoning the GOP.

Before you give him any creedence, read his history and then decide if he is someone you care to listen to.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 1:21:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
No need for tinfoil. My views really are not radical. Really.

God forbid that I didn't join the group calling for Gingrich to become Speaker! (And now that he's announced he's in favor of gay marriage was I wrong?)

God forbid that I don't want my taxes to go up in January!

And God forbid that I'm asking who realistically could take Boehner's place and get legislation passed (with no realistic response I might add)! Sheesh.

14 posted on 12/21/2012 1:26:20 PM PST by what's up
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To: jimbo123

After a great start in 2009 (when he stood up to Pelosi and her lockouts), Cantor has turned into quite the GOP-E toadie.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 1:27:54 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: what's up

Then you have no issue with people seeing for themselves how you have done everything possible to help the GOP continue business as usual.

Good.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 1:28:30 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up
Funny how we have all these calls to get rid of leadership here but no real suggestions to take their places.

Munch on this...

Boehner’s Biggest Threat: Representative Tom Price of Georgia is a conservative force

17 posted on 12/21/2012 1:32:05 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Of course I have no issue with people seeing how I'm in favor of anything that offers REAL SOLUTIONS.

Wishes and dreams are not going to cut it.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 1:33:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Yea...after going around with you a couple days last week and how you assured us Bhoner would not cave on taxes, what did he do?

A monster tax hike attempt on the rich. Class warfare. Just like the dems. Pit the rich against the regular earners.

That’s your idea of a solution.

Any random tea party member could do better. Pick one off the street.

I rest my case.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 1:37:06 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler
Price might be great if there was a pragmatic plan proposed which had a chance to pass into law but the closest thing I see to a tangible plan in the article is this:

He is hoping for the best, hoping taxes don’t go up with any fiscal-cliff deal

So Price is "hoping". And that's a plan for success?

20 posted on 12/21/2012 1:38:39 PM PST by what's up
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To: Norm Lenhart; All
Just a heads up everyone. If you check the posting history of “What’s Up” for the past few weeks, you will discover he has been working overtime to excuse the behavior of the GOP and to disrupt any discussion about conservatives abandoning the GOP.

Yep, he's a party hack who's been trying to deflect criticism of the GOP-E in general,and Boehner and other GOP-E losers in particular, for some time now.

And here's another party-first operative:

And replace him with...........? Here’s an interesting quesiton. Let Freepers fill in the blank.

Funny how their talking points are very similar and how they seem to tag team on Boehner/Congress threads.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 1:39:19 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Norm Lenhart
A monster tax hike attempt on the rich.

Which would have been used to press Obama into more spending concessions.

If Boehner had demonstrated he could have unity in the House Obama would have had to offer more cuts. That would have balanced the hikes out in the overall economy (rich could look forward to less of a load on entitlements in exchange) in addition to protecting the vast majority of small businesses from something far worse.

22 posted on 12/21/2012 1:42:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

There’s that word “pragmatic” again. Seems like squishy moderates like to throw that around quite a bit.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 1:42:48 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
"Pragmatic" means practical.

With 10 days left you'd rather have "dreams"?

24 posted on 12/21/2012 1:44:38 PM PST by what's up
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To: Timber Rattler

Last night I had one say that old people were the problem and we dont have a spending problem. And he wasn’t going to sit back and spend money on hip replacements when his kids future was at stake. Then called me an FDR Socialist.

We need a purge. Badly.

These people destroyed the GOP and if we do not rid ourselves of them, they will finish off conservatism. Which it seems, is their intent.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 1:45:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up

Fact: Conservatives do not play games with taxes. They oppose them.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 1:46:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler
Funny how their talking points are very similar and how they seem

LOL. Oh, yeah...I'm part of "the sinister team" invading certain threads. What a laugh. And I've been doing that since '98 I suppose.

It's not really hard to figure out. When a bunch of people are calling for a new leader (and that's fine by me if there's a better proposal for one) isn't the next question, "Who?"

Nothing mysterious about it.

After all this time bashing and hating Boehner, his detractors STILL can't rally around an alternative leader with a real plan.

27 posted on 12/21/2012 1:51:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

“And I’ve been doing that since ‘98 I suppose.”

For a few months anyway. Post histories do not like. But sunlight sucks.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 1:52:52 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
They oppose them.

And opposing them means seeing them go up in January?

Some opposition.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by what's up
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To: Norm Lenhart

Edit...”Do not LIE”


30 posted on 12/21/2012 1:53:59 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
For a few months anyway

No, the implication was that I'm part of some "team" or "party hack" (those were the words used) when I've been here since '98.

Tin foil-itis.

31 posted on 12/21/2012 1:56:20 PM PST by what's up
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To: jimbo123

He’s Boehner’s loyal Lewinsky!


32 posted on 12/21/2012 1:57:25 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: what's up

Just curious...

Does it hurt to twist reality so badly? I’d really like to know. I’m also really interested in the color of the sky in the world you inhabit. Ours is blue.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 1:57:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up

Yea...can’t imagine why anyone would think that based on your posts alone. That’s just crazy talk.

Not you. Your detractors. They are batshit crazy taking your words literally and all.

How do you define “is” Bill?


34 posted on 12/21/2012 2:00:10 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Does it hurt to twist reality so badly?

OK...you desire to throw ad hominems.

Fine. But you really should throw a fact in there to show what kind of reality you are standing on.

The truth is those House members who voted Nay last night because they're set on getting 100% of what they want have no EFFECTIVE PLAN which will keep taxes from going up.

Yet you say they are going to keep tax rates the same? Now, how is that going to happen? Reality and facts, please.

35 posted on 12/21/2012 2:03:37 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

The man who ran around FR assuring Bhoner was not caving and now defends the caving wants “facts”

The Brrass is highly polished on this one.

No. Not keep them the same. Cut them.

You do it by going to Obama, refusing to authorixe one cent for ANYTHING. Shut it down via the constitutional power of congress RE spending.

When Obama disbands the Czats/DOE/TSA/Dept of Energy, Dept if interior, EPA and stops sending billions to terrorist countries along with fraudulent EBT bullshit, turn the spigot back on.

Thats how. Now you PROVE to us that the resulting multi trillion dollar spending cut does not mean the need for less taxes.

Is there ANY reason Congress cannot LEGALLY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY do that?

No ducks, no dodge, no whining about political realities and other BS excuses. Give me a constitutional reason or sit down and shut up.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 2:10:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: jimbo123

E.C. is a classic example of the klintoon era swallowing knee-pad user...


37 posted on 12/21/2012 2:13:32 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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E.C. is a classic example of the klintoon era swallowing knee-pad user...


38 posted on 12/21/2012 2:14:02 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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E.C. is a classic example of the klintoon era swallowing knee-pad user...


39 posted on 12/21/2012 2:14:02 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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“now he’s going to have to beg House GOP members to vote for the Obama/Reid/McConnell plan? “

NO, he’s going to have to beg the few House RINOs to vote against it to save the Party and the country.

Of course our Leadership may not realize that LOL!


40 posted on 12/21/2012 2:17:53 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: jimbo123

Cantor is would follow fellow Jews into into camps.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 2:20:02 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Norm Lenhart
When Obama disbands the Czats/DOE/TSA/Dept of Energy, Dept if interior, EPA

Oh, boy.

So your solution is that the House should de-fund everything because that is constitutional... meaning our military would be without funding, many elderly would be out on the street, many dying would be taken off Gov't funded life support systems, the unemployed and those receiving food stamps would immediately go hungry, mail service would stop, all Federal contracting employees would receive no pay, etc. etc. etc. (not that I don't want many of these these same things long term but you want them immediately full-stop).

So you think because of this Obama would immediatly kowtow and disband full departments and cut off EBT money?

I see what kind of person I am talking to. One who really doesn't have a clue what kind of increased power toward tyranny this would give Obama, the MSM and the Dems and the veering further away from the Constitution which would result.

Bye-bye. You are clearly a person who is one of the "dreamy" types; reason doesn't seem to be part of your nature.

42 posted on 12/21/2012 2:26:10 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

I’ll sum it up.

I, What’s up, cannot answer the clearly stated and legitimate question. Because there is no way I can spin it. So I’ll type a bunch of nonsense and hope nobody notices. Later, I’ll pop up on another thread and repeat all my BS all over again.”


43 posted on 12/21/2012 2:28:44 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
You really think Obama is going to come kowtowing if you cut off all federal funding immediately.

Now, that's what I call a huge bunch of nonsense.

44 posted on 12/21/2012 2:33:08 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

I, What’s up, cannot answer the clearly stated and legitimate question. Because there is no way I can spin it. So I’ll type a bunch of nonsense and hope nobody notices. Later, I’ll pop up on another thread and repeat all my BS all over again.”


45 posted on 12/21/2012 2:36:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

No, I have answered all questions, Dreamy.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: jimbo123

Sequestration means $100b in tax hikes and $100b in spending cuts, and a $1.2T increase in the debt limit. It’s not such a bad compromise, given that neither side is in a mood for any kind of legislative horse-trading. Ultimately, if taxes are going to be raised, they should be raised on the entire income-earning population, so that the people paying in bear in full the cost of their decisions at the polls.


47 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: what's up

Please repost the proof the Congress lacks constitutional authority to do it. I must have missed it. Unless you just flat out LIED saying you answered my question.

Repost it. Point me to the text. Something. Anything.

It’s your credibility. Back it up or lose it.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 2:43:10 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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Please repost the proof the Congress lacks constitutional authority to do it.

I didn't post any proof, Dreamy. You're imagining things bigtime. It appears you have your head in the clouds. No surprise.

49 posted on 12/21/2012 2:46:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: Zhang Fei

“Ultimately, if taxes are going to be raised, they should be raised on the entire income-earning population, so that the people paying in bear in full the cost of their decisions at the polls.”

I fully agree with you. Let more of the 47% start to pay up.. No more free rides. Cancel the “earned Income credit” too.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 2:49:16 PM PST by bfree (Biden '13)
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