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Boston mayor blasts NRA reaction to Conn. killings
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Posted on 12/21/2012 1:24:42 PM PST by matt04

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino is criticizing the National Rifle Association's call for armed police and security volunteers to be posted at schools.

He said the group's proposal "is not a plan, but a ploy to bring more guns into our neighborhoods."

Menino reacted in a statement Friday after the NRA commented on last week's shooting at a Connecticut elementary school that killed 26 children and staff. The nation's largest gun-rights lobby blamed video games, movies and music videos, saying they expose children to a violent culture day in and day out.

The mayor said Americans are tired of the same buzzwords and rhetoric that have moved the gun control debate nowhere.

Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg lead a coalition of mayors pushing to end gun violence.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; boston; guncontrol; menino; newtown; nra; secondamendment
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So Mumbles, care to elaborate on how effective having no guns is schools is working.
1 posted on 12/21/2012 1:24:49 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

Hoplophobe


2 posted on 12/21/2012 1:27:37 PM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: matt04

I was just saying over on another board that there are Democrats who will waste no time arguing that our children do not need protected, and along comes this would-be mafia capo ~ Boston Mayor Thomas Menino ~ and he’s telling us the kids got quite enough guns ~ too many for his interests.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 1:28:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: matt04

Mumbles is an ass.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 1:29:50 PM PST by Mears
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To: matt04

the same buzzwords and rhetoric that have moved the gun control debate nowhere.

If you don’t have a coherent argument that is what you
get.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 1:30:09 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: matt04
Boston Mayor Thomas Menino is criticizing the National Rifle Association's call for armed police and security volunteers to be posted at schools.

Just admit that you prefer dead children to a rational attempt to protect them, a$$hole.

6 posted on 12/21/2012 1:30:39 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: matt04

Okay, then if that’s how he feels, he should resign.

Did he take an oath to uphold the laws of his state and our nation? The Second Amendment is law.

If he can’t honor it, he should step down.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 1:31:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: matt04

Ma. Constitution.

Article CVI. Article I of Part the First of the Constitution is hereby annulled and the following is adopted:-

All people are born free and equal and have certain natural, essential and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness. Equality under the law shall not be denied or abridged because of sex, race, color, creed or national origin.

How can you defend your property and life without a weapon?

This guy should step down immediately, or be impeached.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 1:34:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: tet68

Wait a second Mumbles, I thought you were worried about threats to schools. The only possible solution is gun control? Rather narrow minded I would say.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 1:35:23 PM PST by technically right
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To: matt04

Because they have no intent of accepting anything less than gun control, period.

Better to take it up with the individual states and schools and let them decide if they want their kids to be prey animals.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 1:36:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04

No use trying to understand his “reasoning.” Liberalism is a mental disorder, so he is incapable of thinking clearly like normal people.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 1:36:42 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism comes from an incurable mental illness.)
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To: matt04

Hey, Mumbles.

Are your bodyguards armed?

Are those armed cops I see guarding the City Hall?

Are those armed State Police I see guarding the State House?

Are those armed security guards at the big Banks in the Banking District?

Wassamatta? Your precious public schools, and all that money you spend “for the CHILDREN”, you mean to tell me that the CHILDREN and your precious public school system are not worthy of the same protection you afford for yourself, the City Hall, and the State House?

Typical filthy lying hypocrite DemonRAT.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 1:37:06 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: matt04

Where were these people during Fast and Furious.

Over three hundred killed and still counting.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 1:38:21 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: matt04

This is the same guy who wanted to ban a chicken joint because he does not agree with the owner.

Bombastic imbecile.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 1:38:46 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: matt04

In other news, Boston Mayor is first US Mayor to receive a lobotomy and still retain office.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 1:39:26 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: matt04

“is not a plan, but a ploy to bring more guns into our neighborhoods.”

The man is a nut.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 1:40:05 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: matt04

OK lets look at facts, the lefts worst enemy.
Guns have been around for hundreds of years.

nutjobs have been around but not like this

society went down around the 60/s just as the left was attacking the traditional family , and morals\\no coincidence.

their words not mine
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm.

The left promoted their attack on the family , told women do not need a guy etc.

video games, movies changed in the last 15 years, John Wayne getting shot or indians fell of their horse but not guts, today it;s all guts and gore and sex especially homo feces pushing sex.
Shrinks telling kids it is alright to be different, discipline out of the window, talk to kids today don;t shout or punish crap.

blubber mouth and others need to look at facts instead of their usual mouthing off like an idiot.

Oh wait it;s the left which promoted the attack on how kids were raised, society changed due to what , guns , hell no, because of the left and because of many on our side which shuts the hell up.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 1:40:39 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: matt04
If Menino does not like something, it's a big plus, as good as any endorsement.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 1:41:31 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: matt04
I think it would be fine if each community had the local law enforcement agencies in the schools. Don't bring any more of Obama's federal Homeland security type people in and etc nor adding more workers in from the state. We need to be armed not so much as the fed making us live under a police state run out of control. Both sides need to chill and think about this.
19 posted on 12/21/2012 1:42:48 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: muawiyah
A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

Dick Bachert 12/19/2012

20 posted on 12/21/2012 1:43:58 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: Mears

A dumbass at that. Saying the NRA plan is only a plan to bring more guns into a neighborhood is humorous at best. At least these guns are friendly, protective guns. Apparently the mayor only wants the criminal guns in the neighborhood. How do these people breathe with the head so far up their rear-end?


21 posted on 12/21/2012 1:43:59 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: matt04

‘He said the group’s proposal “is not a plan, but a ploy to bring more guns into our neighborhoods.” ‘

The reason he says this is that he really doesn’t give a rip about protecting school kids. Or anything practical/pragmatic that will actually work.

He’s only interested in using the horror for promoting his Marxist agenda........


22 posted on 12/21/2012 1:44:56 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: matt04

One only has to remember when air travel was conducted in a gun free zone. Islamic terrorists had it pretty easy taking over in mid-flight.

Then it was announced armed air marshalls would be put aboard the flights and the Captain would be armed. After that there was a noticeable drop in terrorist takeovers and hostage taking. And that was before TSA was on the scene.

Morons refuse to see the connection.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 1:45:58 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: matt04

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino is stained with the blood of the Sandy Hook massacre victims along with all those who promote the criminalization of self defense.
Shame on Mayor Thomas Menino.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 1:46:06 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: matt04
No pictures at the link of his ARMED security detail.
25 posted on 12/21/2012 1:46:16 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: matt04
How come the argument is not being made that our kids are being use as pawns in the politics of gun control? Don't these families have standing in suing the government over the failed policy of “gun-free” zones that are nothing more than liberal attempts at nirvana?
26 posted on 12/21/2012 1:49:34 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: cripplecreek

The left cannot admit the 1990 Gun Free Schools Act has been as big a failure as the 1994 AWB and the 1968 GCA. Since they cannot allow this failure to be noted at large, they scream hysterically about gun bans and attack anyone who disagrees with them. Educate your neighbors.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 1:50:25 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: matt04

No matter how good the proposition, there will always be some number of dick responses.

How about tacking on 2 years of Peace Officer service to the current tenure requirements for Police duty? I make this suggestion for those “retiring” in their 40s.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 1:50:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: matt04
->>He said the group's proposal “is not a plan, but a ploy to bring more guns into our neighborhoods.”

He has no clue who Citizen Joe and Citizen Jane is. One of them one day, may save him or his family.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

>>I think it would be fine if each community had the local law enforcement agencies in the schools.

I think its a terrible idea. We don’t need law enforcement officers with their benefits and pensions standing around a school all day. We need armed security guards just like a bank or an armored car has. I assume that other states have a “G” armed security guard license similar to the one that Florida has? We could create a couple thousand $11/hr jobs in no time and they wouldn’t break the taxpayers’ backs like full-blown cops would cost us.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: matt04

Armed guards in schools will be the only thing that stops this kind of madness. Nothing stops a crazed shooter like a bullet in the head.

When a crazed killer goes into your kid’s classroom, who do you want protecting him, a well trained, well armed guard or a liberal gun grabber? It’s time to decide.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 1:52:04 PM PST by pallis
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To: matt04

Nothing surprising or unexpected here. Not news really.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 1:52:59 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Christie at the beach

Retired police and military from the community is all that’s needed. They would probably volunteer one day a week.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 1:58:49 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: mylife

“[Assault weapons’] menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi- automatic assault weapons —anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.” Josh Sugarmann, executive director of New Right Watch, spokesman for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, “Assault Weapons and Accessories in America,” policy report of New Right Watch and the Education Fund to End Handgun Violence, September 1988

“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It does not matter if you have to distort facts or even lie.”
-Sarah Brady, Handgun Control, Inc., The National Educator, January, 1994

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.”-Dianne Feinstein, Senator, CBS-TV’s “60 Minutes,” February 5, 1995

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of the citizen to bear arms is just one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.” - Hubert Humphrey(bitter clinger), 1960
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”- William Pitt, 1783

“Gun bans don’t disarm criminals, gun bans attract them.”- Walter Mondale, U.S. Ambassador to Japan(bitter clinger), April 20, 1994

“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”
— Rahm Emanuel


34 posted on 12/21/2012 1:58:56 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Bryanw92
I think it should be a local issue. Each community can vote/decide who will they hire as officers etc. The feds and state should stay out of it. Why take a chance on losing more freedom when we have such distrusting politicians in power. Communities that can afford, will move on others will either do it or not. Local control.
35 posted on 12/21/2012 2:00:03 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: matt04
Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg lead a coalition of mayors pushing to end gun violence.

Comedians Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg led a coalition of mayors pushing to end gun violence by taking away guns from law abiding citizens, allowing only the government and criminals to own guns. Apparently they do not believe that armed guards will change the situation in spite of loads of evidence to the contrary.

36 posted on 12/21/2012 2:02:06 PM PST by olezip
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To: matt04
That little Tommy "Mumbles" Menino has anyone even paying attention to the drivel coming out of his mouth is remarkable.

He's the only Big City Mayor in America who the voters keep in office just because they know he'll never get hired at another job, Barney Frank isn't looking for a new boyfriend yet, and they feel bad for him.

Tommy Mumbles is the village idiot, minus a few million brain cells. What a pathetic loser.

37 posted on 12/21/2012 2:02:31 PM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: ez
They could certainly use their knowledge and experience
38 posted on 12/21/2012 2:04:01 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: matt04

“As their elected mayor, I know that the people of Boston are both stupid and violent, and if given the tools to be murderously violent, they would use them. Mothers gunning down their own children for crying, grandmothers using assault rifles to shoot up stores because they no longer sell Twinkies.

“The people of Boston are just animals, I say, animals! Were it not for me, they would be living in caves and cannibalizing each other. But under my paternal guidance, I at least have them wearing clothes and walking on their hind legs! But I would not trust them with anything more dangerous than crayons.”


39 posted on 12/21/2012 2:07:55 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Christie at the beach
I think it should be a local issue. Each community can vote/decide who will they hire as officers etc. The feds and state should stay out of it.

Exactly my attitude about it and the NRA would be far more effective rallying the troops at the state and local level where they have strong support.
40 posted on 12/21/2012 2:08:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04
UK gave up guns after a school shooting. Obama is using his community organizing background to try and increase public support for the same process here.

How UK school massacre led to tighter gun control

Obama calls on public to lobby Congress on gun restrictions

41 posted on 12/21/2012 2:09:25 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Alaska Wolf

***Just admit that you prefer dead children to a rational attempt to protect them, a$$hole. ****

Here is a web site mentioned by LaPierre.

Kindergarten Killer Game - “Game Shoot the pesky kids with a shotgun.”

Nuf said.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 2:11:04 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Bryanw92
When my son began his base pay was barely 20,000 annual. He is up a little bit. He has his part time jobs as security and his wife works. He was in a school -all day all week for about a year; they moved into another area recently.
43 posted on 12/21/2012 2:13:46 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: TurboZamboni

““If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.”-Dianne Feinstein, Senator, CBS-TV’s “60 Minutes,” February 5, 1995”

I think that the “51 votes” are NOW THERE for exactly such a ban, if that’s what Obama ordered from above.

Also important to remember that as of the new year, the filibuster rule will be changed from 60 votes (for cloture) to [probably] 51 votes (Harry Reid stated his intent to do this before Sandy Hook). Again, “the votes will be there”, at least in the Senate.

The House is all that remains in the way.

Think that’s will be enough?
Well, enough for two more years, but that may be all.
From the looks of things as they’re going now, the Republicans are going to come away from the 2013 tax/budget/deficit fight so damaged, that there’s a very good chance they’ll lose their majority in the House in 2014.

If that happens, and Obama gains both Houses once more, expect extreme gun control to pass in the 2015-2016 session...

I’m not happy about this.
But that’s a possibility I see comin’ down the road...


44 posted on 12/21/2012 2:13:45 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: matt04
Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg lead a coalition of mayors pushing to end gun violence.

Those two men have NOT pushed for an end to gun violence, they've pushed for gun control. Those are two very different objectives...

45 posted on 12/21/2012 2:14:55 PM PST by GOPJ (Detroit should be renamed 'Michael Mooresville'...)
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To: GOPJ

I’m sick of these east coast mayors thinking that they’re somehow important to anyone outside their cities.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 2:18:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04

How did that Chick-Fil-a thing work out for you Man-in Name-Only?


47 posted on 12/21/2012 2:22:24 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel!)
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To: Christie at the beach

>>When my son began his base pay was barely 20,000 annual. He is up a little bit. He has his part time jobs as security and his wife works. He was in a school -all day all week for about a year; they moved into another area recently.

Where I live, starting pay for a cop is about 1 1/2 times that, and then add the cost of benefits and pension. But if you put a cop in every school, it would go to seniority and you’d have $50k/yr cops standing around chatting with the school secretary all day. We hire security guards to protect our power plants because they are considerably cheaper than a LEO.

Another reason to use armed security guards and not LEOs is to stop this from turning into another case of “only cops should be trusted with guns around children”. Even off-duty cops cost a lot more than armed security guards.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 2:23:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: matt04

The abstract comments of ‘gun control’ offer not one syllable of ‘action’ that will make anyone safer. Unfortunately, our society breeds evil. As others have noted, we have laws that covered each of the elements that occurred in Sandy Hook. Minor with a gun, guns unsecured, guns available to an unstable person, etc, etc, etc.
Politicians I lump in with the ‘unstable’ because most of them have as much intelligence as a cup of sand. If they would speak of specific action plans then we would have a dialog. As it is they speak in generalities that don’t make sense.


49 posted on 12/21/2012 2:29:14 PM PST by PatriotCause (California Sucks)
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To: Bryanw92

And there are something like 125,000 schools in this country. There are at least 6 or 8 of them within 10 miles of me in 3 different districts.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 2:34:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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