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Teachers union rejects NRA’s call for armed security in schools
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | December 21, 2012

Posted on 12/21/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten issued the following statement in reaction to National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre’s press conference today:

After remaining silent for an entire week following the Newtown massacre, the NRA’s first comments were to call for more guns in our schools and our society. This is both irresponsible and dangerous. No matter how much money the NRA spends or propaganda it tries to spread, one thing is clear—the NRA is not serious about confronting the epidemic of gun violence in our nation.

Schools must be safe sanctuaries, not armed fortresses. Anyone who would suggest otherwise doesn’t understand that our public schools must first and foremost be places where teachers can safely educate and nurture our students.



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1 posted on 12/21/2012 2:25:41 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I guess this means the blood from any future school massacres is on the teachers unions’ hands.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 2:29:20 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Because that “No Gun Zone” is working so well,,


3 posted on 12/21/2012 2:29:28 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: Tailgunner Joe

That statement just pegged the stupid meter.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 2:30:02 PM PST by two23
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“When schoolchildren start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”

-Albert Shanker (September 14, 1928 – February 22, 1997) president of the United Federation of Teachers from 1964 to 1985 and president of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) from 1974 to 1997.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 2:30:14 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There was an armed guard at Best Buy today. I guess people are more concerned about protecting their cheap electronic crap than they are their kids.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 2:30:24 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does the teacher’s union want to remove the armed cops who are already in the schools?


7 posted on 12/21/2012 2:30:42 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How many dead teachers does it take to change a lightbulb?


8 posted on 12/21/2012 2:35:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No one except the Terminator ever shot up a police station.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 2:35:50 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: MeganC
Does the teacher’s union want to remove the armed cops who are already in the schools?

Great question. Most inner city schools have at least one cop assigned to them - more as children are arriving and leaving the schools as that's when incidents often occur.

10 posted on 12/21/2012 2:36:20 PM PST by randita
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Randi Weingarten

11 posted on 12/21/2012 2:36:32 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about if we hire armed guards for the kids, and the teachers are on their own?


12 posted on 12/21/2012 2:37:34 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the political right fought down and dirty like the political left, we'd be screaming from the rooftops that this proves that the American Federation of Teachers' Union wants more school violence, but I realized a long time ago that the right couldn't PR themselves out of a wet paper bag.
13 posted on 12/21/2012 2:38:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Anyone who would suggest otherwise doesn’t understand that our public schools must first and foremost be places where teachers can safely educate and nurture our students.



How's that working out, Randi ?
14 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:00 PM PST by caveat emptor (Scripto ergo sum)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They could put Cops in schools on Monday, but they'd rather that the kids be a risk than have "Guns" be part of the solution.
We can afford a Police Officer sitting at every road construction site, but not at a School.
What are they saying, that they don't even trust a Police Officer around kids with a gun?
Let's put a Satellite Police Station in every School in America where they can do paper work and protect kids at he same time.
This reminds me of when the NRA introduced the Eddie Eagle Gun Safety Program to teach kids not to touch guns if they find one, to leave the area and tell an Adult. And Charles the Snakeman Schumer called it a "Cynical Ploy to create more Shooters, who become more NRA Members and who become NRA Voters."

15 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:24 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: MeganC

Knee jerk hysteria from the teacher’s unions. This is what amazes me: there already are armed police officers in two states that I know of: Texas and Florida. Yesterday when I stopped at a high school in my town, there was an armed police officer sitting behind the counter with the receptionist. Also, my brother is a deputy in Florida. He did a couple of years as a “School Resource Officer” - always armed.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:39 PM PST by LifePath
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They’re already in many schools. See nasro.org


17 posted on 12/21/2012 2:39:55 PM PST by Spok
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the teacher union doesn't like guns, then at least give the teachers the choice to either remain disarmed, or to be trained with tasers (or other non-lethal self-defense). Anything is better than being totally vulnerable.

They still need armed security in the schools as well.

Regardless, with this defeatist attitude, the teacher unions are only making another strong argument for right-to-work laws.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 2:40:41 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Schools must be safe sanctuaries, not armed fortresses.”

Yes, a gun-free zone is truly a safe sanctuary...oh wait!

I guess she is not familiar with schools in Israel - where no school massacres have occurred since they began having armed staff in the schools AFTER a school massacre occurred in just such a gun free zone safe sanctuary.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 2:41:23 PM PST by Castigar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What did anyone expect from these self-serving extortionists?? Caring logic? Something intelligent in the way of an informed solution?

Forget about it.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 2:41:46 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: matt1234

What is that?


21 posted on 12/21/2012 2:41:57 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The teachers unions and RAT politicians would rather have dead children than armed guards. Before this they did not object to armed resourse officers, metal detectors or lockdowns. They smell blood in the water.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 2:44:47 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is one time where I agree with the union. Armed guards will simply condition more children to a police state and accept the TSA/IRS etc. as just part of life. The schools are already constitution free zones, adding a police state will not further the cause of liberty.

A more radical solution is privatize education, shut down the public schools and get the government out of the child raising business. IN my home school we have had no killings, but we have had plenty of shootings, my children do not get disciplined for quoting the Bible, in fact we encourage it. If you do not want to live in a socialist nation you have to get the public out of the socialist incubator. Public funded education has helped to destroy family solidarity, science, entrepreneurship, and education.

23 posted on 12/21/2012 2:46:10 PM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
WILLIAM ADAMS

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Eric Mowery

Melissa Silvers

Laura Avery

24 posted on 12/21/2012 2:47:09 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: MestaMachine

ChaChing!


25 posted on 12/21/2012 2:47:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

[Schools must be safe sanctuaries, not armed fortresses. Anyone who would suggest otherwise doesn’t understand that our public schools must first and foremost be places where teachers can safely educate and nurture our students.]

As long as the government and the schools insist that my children and grandchildren go to their schools, I insist that they protect them first. When they take the care and education of children away from parents, they also take on the responsibility of protecting that child while under their care.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 2:47:54 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: two23

Providing opportunity for the teachers, or some member of the school staff, to be armed, defeats the whole purpose of “No Gun Zones”. The idea is to raise children free of involvement with handguns or side arms, to the point that young boys are not permitted to have toy guns, and to even raise your hand with forefinger extended, and saying “Bang, bang!” is to get yourself suspended from school. So what would it say for the teacher to be armed?

You betcha this would cause a squawk from the educationalists around the country. They have been carefully inoculating their small charges with the belief that guns, in and of themselves, are evil, and to even THINK about using them is also evil. They have effectively cowed the children into being conformist, long before they have developed any critical thinking on their own, and as insurance that they shall NEVER achieve a degree of independence that could challenge the status that is being created bit by bit every day.

No matter how morally wrong it turns out to be.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 2:48:10 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: matt1234
NO!!!
28 posted on 12/21/2012 2:48:52 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SpaceBar
the right couldn't PR themselves out of a wet paper bag

You sure got that right. It's about time the Right became Macchiavellian when confronting the left; the Right should learn something from the Alinskyites.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 2:50:54 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ummm hello union...it’s dues paying jobs...


30 posted on 12/21/2012 2:52:50 PM PST by jughandle
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To: LifePath

“Knee jerk hysteria from the teacher’s unions. This is what amazes me: there already are armed police officers in two states that I know of: Texas and Florida. Yesterday when I stopped at a high school in my town, there was an armed police officer sitting behind the counter with the receptionist.”

Knee jerk is right. They are only objecting to armed guards because the NRA proposed it. The fact that armed officers have been in schools for a decade without their objection proves it. If the NRA proposed putting desks in classrooms they would object. The NRA proposed a reasonable measure to make schools safer but they are hysterical because banning guns wasnt a part of it.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 2:55:34 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The stupid in the herd will be culled. The stupid are the left. Useful idiots.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 2:56:10 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jughandle

Not what we need- TSA gropers now groping the kids at school as well.

“The Artemis Project” is a good idea. No unions and no cost to the district.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 2:56:10 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Forget gun control. Forget armed security in the schools. DISCIPLINE children at home and in the schools. Children today are Godless, rouge zoo animals with no guidance or discipline and no MEN around them at home, or at school, or in daycare. 100% estrogen role models for boys ain’t workin’!!!


34 posted on 12/21/2012 2:56:54 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Salvey

Take for instance the story about Rahm Emanuel and his outrageous comments that was just posted. The NRA should convene yet another press conference and shove Emanuel’s words where the sun don’t shine. Will they do it? Nope.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 2:58:29 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Once they figure out they will be SEIU guards they will want them.

More union workers and they will be pushing for it.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 3:01:19 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Typical liberal. If we just let them talk they’re show their stupidity and most of the time they’ll contradict themselves.

She says the NRA wants to bring MORE guns into school. More guns? There were absolutely zero guns in Sandy Hook until a nut case brought some in.

Teachers should be able to teach without the fear of violence? That’s exactly what the NRA is saying.

Schools should be santuaries and not armed fortresses? They’re now UNARMED fortresses.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 3:01:48 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Definitely not, just trying to apply their own absurd logic. NRA suggested some volunteer guards.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 3:06:08 PM PST by jughandle
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Weapons prohibited” stickers stop NOTHING.

Bunch of slow learners.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 3:10:12 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: DaveyB

“IN my home school we have had no killings, but we have had plenty of shootings...”

You’ve had plenty of shootings in your home school?

Ummm, care to expand on that?


40 posted on 12/21/2012 3:11:33 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I wonder how the Police Union feels about police officers being called “both irresponsible and dangerous”, by this individual?


41 posted on 12/21/2012 3:11:39 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: skeeter

The cadaverous Frank Lautenberg, Senator from New Jersey, said essentially the same thing. We need to howl that message long and loud when the next one happens, and make no mistake, there WILL be another one. Their blood is on the hands of everyone who denies the effectiveness of armed guards in schools.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 3:22:19 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Randi will start protecting students when they start paying union dues.


43 posted on 12/21/2012 3:26:01 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Liberal indoctrination and socialist brainwashing aside...what conservative who loves their children would entrust them to such fools?

They demand that children pay in blood to further a socialist agenda...abort the unborn, sacrifice the young, defile and indoctrinate the adolescent, enslave and endow with victimhood all that survive...and viciously attack any who refuse to be sheep.


44 posted on 12/21/2012 3:29:05 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: DaveyB

There is no need for security to appear to be anything other than janitors or volunteer parent hall monitors, etc. I do agree wholeheartedly with the second half of your post.


45 posted on 12/21/2012 3:33:35 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just about every inner city school has armed guards, cops even.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 3:34:11 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: matt1234

I’m confused - what does Gilbert Gottfried have to do with this discussion?


47 posted on 12/21/2012 3:34:49 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Within an hour of the incident, there were scores of guns all over Sandy Hook Elementary. It’s simple...do you want two retired police concealed carrying or 30 armed SWAT members looking for survivors?


48 posted on 12/21/2012 3:43:09 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Height of Hypopcrisy- She would have no protection for our children but protection for herself when she was a college student =SOB

Weingarten graduated from Cornell which has AN ARMED POLICE FORCE ON CAMPUS>

"From 1979 to 1980, Weingarten was a legislative assistant for the Labor Committee of the New York State Senate. She received a Bachelor of Science in labor relations from the ILR School at Cornell University in 1980"=wiki

Cornell University Police *G2 Barton Hall* 255-1111

"The Cornell Police will perform the same basic activities as any municipal police... All items lost, or found on the Cornell Campus, or Identified as belonging to a ..."

www.cupolice.cornell.edu/

"Almost three-fourths of universities with a sworn police force arm their officers, according to the most recent Bureau of Justice Statistics survey from the 2004-2005 academic year."

http://www.gwhatchet.com/2008/10/06/many-colleges-arm-police-forces/

49 posted on 12/21/2012 3:46:11 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I guess this means that the teachers’ union wants to trim the class size.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 3:48:00 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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