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Arne Duncan Says ‘Reasonable People’ Should Back Gun Restrictions
abcnews.go.com ^ | December 21, 2012 | Sarah Parnass

Posted on 12/21/2012 2:37:29 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Two hours before the National Rifle Association told the country that guns were not to blame for the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan today said that “reasonable people” should be able to overcome their differences on the issue and work to craft tougher laws.

Duncan, a member of Vice President Joe Biden’s new task force charged with finding solutions to America’s gun violence, said the goal should be to support “common sense” measures such as banning “assault weapons” and high-capacity ammunition, and closing gun-show loopholes in the background-check process.

“Reasonable people should be able to agree on these restrictions,” Duncan said, speaking at an elementary school in Northeast Washington today. “As the president has pointed out, many of these ideas are backed by members of the NRA and were, in fact, supported by President Reagan.” ....

“I don’t pretend to have all the answers but since last Friday a week ago, I do believe the world has fundamentally changed,” Duncan said.

In addition to school administrators, Duncan said he wanted to talk with gun owners, hunters and sport shooters to get their advice on what leaders can do to secure schools.

“We have common values that go far beyond the constitutional right to bear arms,” Duncan said. “We value the right to live our daily lives and to pursue our dreams without fear, but last week the dreams of 26 people in Newtown Connecticut were cut short at an elementary school because one disturbed man was mad at the world.”

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: antigun; arneduncan; banglist; gunban; guncontrol; schools; secondamendment; security

1 posted on 12/21/2012 2:37:33 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I too support reasonable gun control. The current 20,000 pages of gun laws are blatantly unreasonable so we need to cut back.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 2:41:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

unreal the word games they use.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 2:42:35 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
so let me get this straight-we have armed security and mandatory searches/pat downs to voluntarily fly as adults and no security at all for mandatory attendance of kids in schools.

home schooling makes more sense all the time.

4 posted on 12/21/2012 2:43:35 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks Arne, but if you were paying attention, you’d know we already have enough restrictions.

Just because you and DiFi want everything this side of a butter knife, classified as an “Assault Weapon”, doesn’t mean you’re “reasonable”.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 2:44:39 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m more than happy to limit the access of ‘rats to guns.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 2:46:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I doubt there are easy answers for what to do with the handful of mass killers every year, but to reduce overall violent crime, we need criminal control actions, not new gun control.

Gun control is kinda like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 2:52:50 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: ColdOne
‘word games'

Same talking point as Obama. "Reasonable people should agree."

The implication is that if you don't back gun restrictions then you are irrational.

How far is that from declaring one's political enemies to be psychologically disturbed and shipping them off to Siberia for re-education?

8 posted on 12/21/2012 2:53:36 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Arne Duncan SHOULD Say ‘Reasonable People’ Should Back OFF Gun Restrictions
9 posted on 12/21/2012 2:54:13 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Reasonable people should agree that Arne should kiss my pearly white fundament.

/johnny

10 posted on 12/21/2012 2:56:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

446 children, mostly black, have been shot in Chicago. They don’t want to talk about that. That means they’re racists.

They’re coming for the guns. And anything that is not a single shot will be considered an assault weapon.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 2:56:57 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Reasonable people” would let people defend themselves.

A natural right.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 2:58:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

We are the alternative. We will resist. We're not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We're not good losers, you better believe we're sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.


-Mark Levin.

I'm not reasonable either.
13 posted on 12/21/2012 3:00:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s time to put politics aside, and pass a law requiring all teachers be issued sidearms and be trained to use it. Also make firearms training a required part of getting a teaching degree. Teacher who refuse should be suspended until they get psychiatric counseling for their hoplophobia. Some people may say this goes to far, but we mus act quickly for the sake of the children.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 3:00:41 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Oh yeah Arne, because you've been such a success in your past endeavors...

Isn't this the guy that advocated sterilants in drinking water?

15 posted on 12/21/2012 3:02:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Reasonable people should store socialists and islamists in dungeons. With no access to guns.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 3:03:29 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: newheart
The implication is that if you don't back gun restrictions then you are irrational.

Its a tired old standard ploy. The group that tried to prevent concealed carry in Michigan some years ago called themselves "People who care about kids" with the insinuation that you supported concealed carry, you didn't care about kids.
17 posted on 12/21/2012 3:06:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

gun control is hitting what you aim for

reasonable gun control is hitting what you aim at with every shot every time


18 posted on 12/21/2012 3:07:33 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - really)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Reasonable people also believe that the Department of Education is unconstitutional, and should be scrapped. And that Arne Duncan should go back to teaching P.E. in a junior high school in Podunk.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 3:09:38 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: cripplecreek

The left has an uncanny ability to create or hijack terms that mean precisely the opposite of what they sound like.

Women’s Healthcare (abortion), Administrative Simplification (HIPAA), Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).


20 posted on 12/21/2012 3:13:23 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Gun owners keep the Government and Local police forces from becoming a tyrannical
dictatorship that would break their own laws and rule with impunity.


Think about that liberals, you of all types who claim to hate big Governments but
then turn around and support it so long as your people are in power. We the people
will keep you in check by owning our guns. And so far just owning them seems to be working.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 3:19:52 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And “reasonable” cabinet members order anyone assigned to protect them or members of their families to completely disarm and then,having done so,publicly announce what they’ve done.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 3:20:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Arne should just go back to Chicago, where reasonable people would agree that the school system he ran is a sinkhole of funding and failure.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 3:24:05 PM PST by mak5
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The fact that this guy is the head of “education” in this country goes a long ways toward explaining how someone like Barry can get elected, TWICE, in this country.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 3:24:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Why is this news? This is just a broken record by Democrats.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 3:25:20 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I too support gun restrictions. I support restricting street gangs for having guns. Start there.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 3:26:59 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It should be illegal for someone to shoot school kids in school...oh wait....it is!


27 posted on 12/21/2012 3:28:58 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I am reasonable and I think we have enough restrictions on firearm ownership. The more we learn about the horrible Sandy Hook massacre, the more we know that the law has limits. Any incident that *starts* with the perp shooting his own mother four times in the head while she lay in bed *starts* with multiple violations of the law, and we go downhill from there.

It is very telling that not at single post-incident proposal deals with any of the real factors of this incident. They are all tangential. Is it just me or does this look not letting a good crisis go to waste. This is so disrespectful what happened in those classrooms. What a cheap shot.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 3:33:47 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Arne Duncan is not a reasonable person. Why should we listen to him?


29 posted on 12/21/2012 3:36:53 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So armed guards are good enough for money but not for children?


30 posted on 12/21/2012 3:38:04 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ann Duncan wants to be on the German soldier's side of this killing. She wants us to be the woman and child about to be murdered by the government thug by disarming us. Liberals are the most dangerous people as they are stupid, uneducated, ignorant, and violent. They know nothing of history.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 3:39:20 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Reasonable” restrictions are how we ended up with 20 dead kids...

Effing moron...


32 posted on 12/21/2012 3:40:36 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Lots of middle and high schools have armed guards. They are called resource officers.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 3:43:18 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Don’t allow them the define what “reasonable” is.

When you do, it turns out they think “reasonable” people shold be allowed to murder unborn babies on demand, yet be unable to legally buy a 32-ounce soda.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 3:48:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You have to take them down right away when they use the “reasonable people” statement, because that is liberal code for “If you don’t agree with all my liberal prefaces, you’re automatically unreasonable.”


35 posted on 12/21/2012 3:49:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I find it reasonable to call for Duncan’s impeachment and removal, along with his master Obama. And I have nothing to say to him, other than “You’re full of crap, resign now, you d**n communist.”


36 posted on 12/21/2012 3:51:14 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There are plenty of laws already on the books all over this country. The problem is that some people don’t bother following the law, so adding more, won’t do a thing to help the situation.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 4:07:55 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Reasonably stupid people maybe. Not reasonable people.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 4:08:23 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...and high-capacity ammunition,...

What the hell is that?

39 posted on 12/21/2012 4:13:56 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

****told the country that guns were not to blame for the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School,****

This reminds me of a Bill Mauldin cartoon from 1968.

A mob is lynching a handgun. Behind the crowd we see a criminal leaving and says....”They lynched my gun and let ME go!”


40 posted on 12/21/2012 4:28:32 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Terry Mross
They’re coming for the guns.

Imagine their shock and horror when they discover that we won't give them up.

41 posted on 12/21/2012 4:36:34 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think most “reasonable” people understand that gun laws only disarm the law-abiding, and don’t stop law breakers from obtaining and using firearms.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 4:44:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Reasonable people” include the raving lunatics who think that NRA members should be murdered and that gun owners don’t deserve the rights or protections that everyone has under the Constitution.


43 posted on 12/21/2012 5:13:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So tell me mayor. How many guns have you removed from the streets?


44 posted on 12/21/2012 6:53:26 PM PST by JDPendry
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Calm down, he'd never think of gun confiscation. Pinkie square.

45 posted on 12/21/2012 8:01:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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