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1 posted on 12/21/2012 6:50:10 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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If an on-duty police officer or National Guardsman should be stationed at a school, what about the same person off-duty? It’s the same person, who is just as trusted and trustable when not in uniform. If not, why not, and if so, why not “ordinary citizens” who have concealed-carry permits, who therefore are also trusted by The State with deadly weapons?


2 posted on 12/21/2012 7:07:48 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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I wonder, do schools have a legal responsibility to protect the children when the latter are in those schools? If so, and they fail in their responsibilities, can the school districts be sued for negligence? In other words, can a wrongful death suit be filed against the district, the teachers and their union?


3 posted on 12/21/2012 7:10:23 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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So how many armed guards should be at one school, and what happens when that guard answers the call of nature.

No way can one guard look out for a whole school.

No: I am not for armed guards at all schools.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 7:16:05 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks, TGJ

Sure, put an armed rent a cop in every movie house and lots of em in every other Gun free environment. They will need certifications of course and distinctive attire to better recognize their position as officialism gun barbers. Let’s just see, Brown shirt would be a good start...

Wain LaPue is a shill.

Rab


5 posted on 12/21/2012 7:22:14 PM PST by Rabin
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The bottom line is the Left want to disarm law abiding citizens and leave guns in the hands of street gangs because they can’t get those guns. It’s easier to take them from legal owners. I think lots of those guns will somehow fall into lakes and rivers.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 7:23:16 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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I DON’T CARE WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR SCHOOLS BUT THEY CAN THEIR GOD DAMNED HANDS OUT OF MY GUN SAFE.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 7:29:40 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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Minnesota Democrat Tim Walz said. "I refuse to believe that our schools have to become armed encampments where our children don't feel safe."

Do you believe kids feel safe now after what happened in Newtown? One armed person there could have averted that massacre.

9 posted on 12/21/2012 7:29:59 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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Dolan said school administrators and local law enforcement officials are those who are most qualified to make decisions about school safety — not the NRA.

Well gee....that worked out so well for the teachers and students murdered in Newtown! No one there was able to stop the killer!

If my child were one of the ones killed, I'd be suing the city, the school administrators, the state and the feds for failure to secure my child's safety. They've known all along that "gun-free" zones don't work and they've done absolutely NOTHING to prevent what happened.

10 posted on 12/21/2012 7:33:30 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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Instead of guns inside the schools, why not well trained and armed volunteers at all corners of the school property until this crap stops or the gov. gets serious about protecting our kids.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 7:39:09 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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You simply cannot make every gun in America disappear. End of story. Start from that premise, because it cannot and will not change.

Making schools, shopping malls, office buildings, etc., into “gun-free zones” has been a total disaster. Such places can NEVER be made completely safe from the “wolves” in our midst. And all it takes is one wolf — whether it’s a terrorist or a drug-addled mental defective or somebody answering Satan’s call — and the unguarded sheep are in deadly danger.

What we need are sheep dogs. Armed civilians, in the middle of the flock of sheep, who will bare their teeth if a wolf dares to make its presence felt. Our best defense is somebody doing their regular job, but with a gun available should trouble arrive.

I don’t like the idea of armed police officers in every school. That reinforces the unAmerican belief that only the police and the military are capable of carrying guns; hiring at least two “detail” cops per day would be very costly; and such a move would bring us one step closer to martial law. All of us by law belong to the “militia” and it is our duty to provide for our own defense.

Every school has at least one custodian on duty at all times, even late at night if the school is still open. Let’s start there. I’m not talking about Charlie the Janitor prowling the halls with an AR-15 and bandoleer ... just a .45 in his locker in case of trouble. (Hiring preference for veterans, maybe?)

We must have the ability to fight back. The guns are out there and the wolves may appear at any moment. Low-key “sheep dogs” are a logical place to draw a line and hold it.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 8:39:06 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. No exceptions.)
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>> Walz said. “But I can’t state how incredibly disappointed I am with the approach taken this morning.”

>> Dolan said school administrators and local law enforcement officials are those who are most qualified to make decisions about school safety — not the NRA.

To Hell with ideas and proposals.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 8:46:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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"That's like having, at the airport, letting 40 percent of the people go through without being checked," Franken said.

Well moron, 95% of them DON'T NEED to be checked.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 9:11:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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The only thing I don’t like about putting armed guards in schools and other places is that it will further incentivize folks to keep guns out of the hands of Citizens because “they won’t need them anymore due to the ‘official protectorate’ in place”.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 4:13:52 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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First it is a false premise of Marxism that Police are to protect. They do not and cannot and it is wrong to perpetuate the lie. Police exist to enforce the law and do so by apprehending law breakers AFTER THE FACT.

The Police do not, cannot and should never be believed to PREVENT crime. After all, how does anyone know who MIGHT do something bad? The entire purpose of civil government exists ONLY to punish evil doers. PERIOD.

Security belongs to the individuals in society. Any people willing to trade that liberty for security from another are, as Ben Franklin put it so well 200 years ago: Unworthy of either.


26 posted on 12/22/2012 9:41:15 AM PST by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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"That's like having, at the airport, letting 40 percent of the people go through without being checked," Franken said.

Hey, Al baby...

It's called "freedom" and "liberty", something once enshrined in our culture and the Constitution before you and your slimy pals got your tyrannical hands on it.

Now we have no freedom left in airports as we are intimately poked, prodded, and photographed by your hireling affirmative-action TSA Union thugs. So, it is not surprising you and your fellow-traveling Communist toadies are promoting the same treatment in all areas of our lives including one specifically enumerated in the Constitution as being off limits to your depredations!

A pox on you and your ilk...

30 posted on 12/22/2012 12:26:58 PM PST by Gritty (Every armed, trained citizen makes this county a better place - Dave Grossman, Self Defense Expert)
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In 1988 I was transferred here to Oklahoma and we started house hunting. One of the reasons why we chose our house was because the school district, Putnam City Schools, has it own armed police force.


40 posted on 12/23/2012 9:59:53 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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