Posted on 12/22/2012 6:19:52 AM PST by wintertime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBSgchJe2Z0
At about 2:20 in the video, Mr. Round begins listing what is occurring in his government school. He states that only 4 or 5 of the children in his class were able to consistently endure this treatment. Please think about this.
Question: What would happen if parents treated children this way in the home?
Question: What would OSHA officials have to say if employers treated their adult employees this way?
Answer: It would be called what it is: Abuse!
Where are all the "good" teachers standing up and protesting this? Where are the mass resignations? Where are these so-called "good" teachers that nearly everyone claims to know?
My conclusion: These children have been abandoned and left to endure abuse. Unlike an adult, children have no means to change their situation.
My conclusion: A" good" government teacher is about as rare as the Hope Diamond. The rest are enablers and some are outright evil.
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When my children were the age of second graders, they rarely spent more than an hour in formal homeschooling. The rest of the time they spent playing or on “real world” field trips with me and my husband as we went about living our “real world” lives.
The children Mr. Round was teaching spend 6 to 7 hours doing what it took my children one hour, and many of these children still must endure a confining school bus ride to and from school. Then to rub even more salt into the wound, they are given “homework” ( which is where they get their real education with their parents help.)
The amazing teachers of the 60's and 70's - women who got into teaching because they were kept out corporate boardroom - are retired. They've been replace by Union types ... people who in a different economy would be selling shoes in some department store...
Actually I personally would have been a lot happier if the NRA had encouraged people to pull their kids out of public schools rather than pimping a big government solution yesterday.
Homework - where the children might get their real education with if their parents help.
We didn’t have it in the 80s but I think I would have benefited greatly from online schooling. It ain’t for lazy students or parents but I’m seeing good results in my niece.
There’s a reason there’s a waiting list in Michigan and there’s a reason the department of education hates it.
What were the teachers of the 60s and 70s doing?
Answer: They were **willingly** supporting, upholding, and establishing a socialist-funded, single-payer, godlessly secular, compulsory-use entitlement.
What did children risk learning in these socialist-entitlment schools?
1) The children learned to think and reason godlessly in their secular classes. They had to just to cooperate in their godlessly secular classrooms.
2) The children risked learning that any voting mob powerful enough to give them socialist-funded and single-payer schooling could give them **lots** of “free” stuff and they risked learning to be comfortable with the government threat of force to compel them to use it.
Modern government schooling was an evil idea from the beginning in the mid-1800s. It is built upon a foundation of socialist-funding and compulsion. It has never been more than generically Protestant in its lukewarm religious worldview. By my grandmother's day ( born 1894) government schooling was merely nodding to God on occasion and by the 60s was utterly godless.
**Good** teachers would never cooperate with this evil. They would shun it.
Good point.
We home schooled for about 10 years before my wife died of cancer.
The most eye-opening fact is the amount of time that is NOT NEEDED for a child to actually learn something.
I left for work earlier than school, so I never saw the start of a school day, but my wife said they started around 9 and was don by by 12 or so.
The rest of the time was ALSO in school .. shopping trips,f'rinstance, became combined geography and math class with some science thrown in to describe lake effect (all legal and accepted in Pennsylvania's school system .. which still checks out HS to a degree)
Keep a record and a log of times spent in conversation about anything you discuss or just tell a child and it is considered 'education'
Good luck sorting out who’s culpable to what degree: educrats enforcing the rules and doing their part in the system, so they can get their secure salaries and bennies; officials elected and unelected who encrust the system with more regulations every year; voters who put them there and continue to elect profligate officials; citizens who pay their taxes to make it all possible, because to resist would have financial and legal repercussions too terrible to consider seriously; citizens who put their children in these puppy mills, rather than go to the unprofitable bother of homeschooling. (Got to churn out that extra income, kiddies — see ya!)
Yes, the educrats are contemptible, but the buck doesn’t stop there. Anybody in the game, in any position, would do well to look in the mirror — and maybe then they’ll think about getting out.
The most important thing I teach my children is that they are responsible for their own learning. It is not a job they can delegate to teachers or parents. If they want to learn then they must self advocate for the resources they need. A bad teacher or a bad system is no excuse.
The second most important thing is that schools, colleges and universities are not designed to measure learning or to encourage learning. They are merely there as bench marks created by society. The goal is to get good grades, not because they learn more, but because they need them ultimately for a job.
What were the teachers of the 60s and 70s doing?
Answer: They were **willingly** supporting, upholding, and establishing a socialist-funded, single-payer, godlessly secular, compulsory-use entitlement.
Amen.
I graduated high school in 1977, and I can tell you I had just as many hippy-dippy teachers then as there are now. Back then they were spouting crap about evil corporations polluting our rivers and streams, leading to the first Earth Day in 1970.
We were taught that the Earth couldn't support the coming population explosion, and did exercises that showed that even if we "discovered" another earth, geometric progression would only extend the inevitable for a very short time before we ran out of oil, food, and potable water.
And we were taught how FDR saved our country after the evil capitalist crash of 1929 with his public works programs such as the CCC and WPA.
Yeah, the liberal agenda was always in the public schools, if the details of what was being taught changed.
Those were my thoughts too.
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That’s why it is called the education-industrial complex. It’s about jobs, not about educating children.
Oh! And....Let's not forget the emphasis on mock U.N gatherings.
They were pushing the envelope then, and my bet is that the government schools always were.
Fundamentally, modern government schooling ( since mid-1850s) was, and is now, a socialist, single-payer, compulsory-use monopoly and price-fixed cartel. NOTHING good can come from that.
Yup, you don’t need a full school day to teach children!
We homeschool about 2 hrs a day. Our daughter is only 5 and can read at about a 2nd grade level; same with math. Right now, as I type, she’s on the other computer learning to read sheet music—on her own!
It’s quite apparent to us homeschoolers that public schools are nothing more than a mass indoctrination centers for “citizens.”
Cheers!
P.S. - Ditto: Ping worthy post, Metmom.
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