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Pope tells Abbas of hope for Mideast solution - December 16, 2012

"Abbas, who is on a tour of Europe to thank countries that supported the November 29 resolution by the U.N. General Assembly recognizing Palestine, held private talks with the pope for about 25 minutes in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace."

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-tells-abbas-hope-mideast-solution-180157423.html

Pope praises UN upgrade for Palestinians

"The bid was met with widespread enthusiasm in the West Bank and Gaza, but dismay from Israeli and US leaders. The November 29 date of the motion came 65 years after the UN’s decision to divide British Mandate Palestine into two states, an Arab one and a Jewish one."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pope-praises-un-upgrade-for-palestinians/

Vatican hails U.N. Palestine vote, wants guarantees for Jerusalem - 11/30/2012

"The Vatican hailed the United Nations' implicit recognition of a Palestinian state on Thursday and called for an internationally guaranteed special status for Jerusalem, something bound to irritate Israel."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/30/us-palestinians-statehood-vatican-idUSBRE8AT01T20121130

The Vatican Agenda:

How Does The Vatican View The Legitimacy of Israel's Claims To Jerusalem?

By Joel Bainerman

"First, you have to realize that for centuries The Vatican has attempted to obtain control of Jerusalem, which started with the Crusades. For them to convince the world that the Messiah they put on the world's stage is going to be accepted as genuine, they need to perform this play in the Old City. The story of this production is that this "Messiah" will merge the three monotheistic religions, usher in peace and harmony in the world, and solve the Middle East conflict. The location for this "production" will be in none other than the Old City of Jerusalem."

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The end goal of The Vatican is to seize control of the Old City of Jerusalem out of the clutches of the state of Israel. To that end they have a secret agreement with Israel which obliges Israel to respect the "extraterritorial" claim to their physical presence in the city. In short, "we have accepted the Vatican's rights to have little Vatican sovereign embassies throughout our eternal capital of Jerusalem. That same Vatican has committed itself, in public and in a written agreement, to ensure that the Palestinians have sovereignty in the Old City of Jerusalem.

http://www.redmoonrising.com/chamish/vaticanagenda.htm

VATICAN CITY: Pope to Get Jerusalem?
Monday, July 08, 1940 <~~~~ note date

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,795047,00.html#ixzz2FkaueSAx

1 posted on 12/22/2012 8:00:14 AM PST by haffast
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To: haffast

“For them to convince the world that the Messiah they put on the world’s stage is going to be accepted as genuine, they need to perform this play in the Old City. The story of this production is that this “Messiah” will merge the three monotheistic religions, usher in peace and harmony in the world, and solve the Middle East conflict. The location for this “production” will be in none other than the Old City of Jerusalem.”

Great, anti-Christian Jews. Just what the world needs more of.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 8:06:49 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: haffast

Psalm 83

2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.

4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.”

5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:

6 The tents of Edom [Chrsitianity] and the Ishmaelites [Islam]...

Obadaiah

8 “In that day,” declares the Lord, “will I not destroy the wise men of Edom, those of understanding in the mountains of Esau?

9 Your warriors, Teman, will be terrified, and everyone in Esau’s mountains will be cut down in the slaughter.

10 Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you will be covered with shame; you will be destroyed forever.

11 On the day you stood aloof while strangers carried off his wealth and foreigners entered his gates and cast lots for Jerusalem, you were like one of them.

12 You should not gloat over your brother in the day of his misfortune...


6 posted on 12/22/2012 8:31:55 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: haffast

Benedict is holding his finger in the dike I’m afraid.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 8:45:59 AM PST by DManA
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Giulio Meotti

Is this plagiarized again or is it something he came up with out of his own fevered imagination?

8 posted on 12/22/2012 8:55:32 AM PST by x
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To: haffast

This particular pope is likely the False Prophet spoken of in the scritpures...


9 posted on 12/22/2012 8:55:50 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: haffast

The Vatican has a compelling concern that Israel does not share in any respect: the well-being and fates of millions of Christians resident in Muslim lands. Saying sympathetic things about the Palestinian cause is one of the few ways that the Vatican has of gaining leverage so as to aid those Christians against the many pressures and persecutions that they endure at the hands of Muslims.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 9:12:23 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: haffast

The present Pope has a long history of support for the Jews. This left-wing, Catholic-baiting nonsense does NOT help the Jews or Israel.

This Pope is famous for hinting at what he thinks about Islam—not much. But he also has an obligation to the millions of Catholics and other Christians who live in Muslim countries, and are persecuted and killed at every opportunity.

Israel has far more to fear from self-hating, left-wing Jews than it does from Evangelicals or Catholics.


11 posted on 12/22/2012 9:27:12 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We deeply must regret that there is still some anti-Semitism in the Church, despite its teachings that this is a mortal sin that strikes at the very heart of the Church.

But saying that the Vatican has concerns for Christians trapped, under threat or attack or even slaughter (depending where and when) in Muslim terrorista or pagan lands, does not excuse the lack of the organized Church’s tangible aid to helping those persecuted Christians .. either by helping improve their local conditions (where possible, I know it is sometimes not) or else by offering to assist their relocation to safer countries.

Quite frankly, repeated statements of “we care about the lives of Christians trapped under Islamic regimes” .. without any visible, significant, and tangible action to genuinely assist them............ I hate to say it, but all the talk and so little visible walk or real help....... does wear quite thin..... very thin, after all these years.

Sorry to have to say that. I pray we will see the Church taking some real action to help people, within its resources of course, as soon as possible.

PS: The Church made a terrible, horrible mistake not asking Israel to stay in Bethleham! The Muslims there have run out over half the Christian community and the rest is living under daily threat.... what a stupid thing to have let happen!!!!


12 posted on 12/22/2012 9:39:31 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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