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Freep this poll-Do you agree w/NRA that an armed officer should be posted in every school?
Bay News 9 Brighthouse Network Tampa Bay ^ | 12/22/2012 | Bay News 9

Posted on 12/22/2012 1:26:00 PM PST by GILTN1stborn

Do you agree with the NRA that an armed officer should be posted in every school?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; nra; schools
Our area is ahead of the curve on this one, but the majority of Hillsborough County voted against freedom when the dick-tatorhead won in this county. Guess when the left is not giving them rides and booze and/or directing them how to vote, they do not particitpate. Big surprise there.
1 posted on 12/22/2012 1:26:13 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: GILTN1stborn

Yes-70%

No -30%


2 posted on 12/22/2012 1:30:22 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

An armed society is a polite society. If it is known that our children are protected by deadly force it is less likely that someone will seek to use deadly force against them. This policy seems to work well in Israel.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 1:30:59 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: GILTN1stborn
We have a good supply of returning vets who know their way around weapons, can following training instructions and act independently. Each state should institute a 'hire a vet' program where the armed guard in each school (two in some schools) should be paid $50,000 per year with benefits and body armor appropriate to the locale (in detroit, maybe an APC).

Liberal bastard democraps demand armed guards for their money (banks) and their elected democrap shills (Capitol Hill security is always armed), but they demand all law abiding citizens be disarmed in the twisted magic thinking belief that that will protect their offspring/future liberal vermin.

4 posted on 12/22/2012 1:34:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Maybe police buildings should be part of the same structures as schools. Or within one hundred yards of a police station. Satellite stations.

Another thought is that police rotate (walk) through a school several times a day.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 1:36:18 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: GILTN1stborn
An armed, trained, upstanding citizen should be in every school.

Poll FReeped, best available answer.

6 posted on 12/22/2012 1:38:46 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: MHGinTN
That would cost about ten billion dollars a year--for a bunch of guys to stand around chatting with the school secretary for years on end, waiting for lightning to strike. Might as well hire Walmart greeters for half the price instead.

Should they have metal detectors and X-ray machines too? Maybe just hire TSA flunkies like the airports do?

7 posted on 12/22/2012 1:43:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: GILTN1stborn

If a particular city wants to spend its education $$ on hiring armed guards, let them do that. But there’s no reason the federal government should be forcing it or funding it.

The best federal solution is to remove federal restrictions on carry in schools, then let the locals figure out how they want to do security, whether just let CHL staff carry (which they should be anyway), or actually pay for guards to be posted.

The local police should already be walking through schools randomly, as part of their community presence programs. Not just because of this. But I guess $150 tickets for going 10mph over on highways are more important than building up community rapport.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 1:46:55 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Navy Patriot
An armed, trained, upstanding citizen should be in every school.

Several of the ladies in my CAS club are teachers at one of the local high schools. I wouldn't want any of them shooting at me.

9 posted on 12/22/2012 1:47:14 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: hinckley buzzard

where do you get this number, ten billion dollars a year?


10 posted on 12/22/2012 1:50:52 PM PST by austinaero
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To: hinckley buzzard

If every school replaced their most worthless teacher with an armed security guard it might be a good tradeoff, and would reduce the cost to near zero. Or maybe each school could do with one less bus driver. Doesn’t Obama want to hire 100,000 more science teachers, or something like that? I would imagine we will get zero bang for our buck from that. My point is there is a way we could solve this problem if we wanted to solve this problem. Instead I think we would rather NOT solve this problem and use it as an excuse to disarm the American public.


11 posted on 12/22/2012 1:57:43 PM PST by Reddon
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To: hinckley buzzard

You are going to catch hell on this one Buzzard..

The Freepers in here who want armed guards in schools have been on my ass like a hip pocket.

I don’t know the cost but it wouldn’t be cheap and each one of them would join the SEIU, You would get what TSA gets for employees.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 1:59:39 PM PST by Venturer
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To: GILTN1stborn

I believe in having an officer at every school as much as I believe in the school chef grinding up and grilling every attempted mass murderer killed on school grounds.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 2:00:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Hey, I have an idea.... as Republicans, we’re supposed to support LOCAL control of education. So why don’t we let local school boards make this call? You really want the Feds mandating something like this? I hate this idea.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 2:01:50 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: hinckley buzzard
I think you are on the wrong site. We're looking for real answers not rhetoric.
15 posted on 12/22/2012 2:02:40 PM PST by Logical me
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To: hinckley buzzard

I voted yes because that was really the only option. The assumption will be that NO votes are for no firearms in schools or anywhere else, a responsible poll would have at least had a place for “other”. My other would be to have NO gun free zones. Teachers, administrators, cafeteria workers, maintenance, visiting parents, any who wanted if they are eligible to buy a firearm to carry it concealed. Our schools, post offices, courtrooms and houses, government offices, theatres, hospitals, churches, all would be more safe.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 2:07:59 PM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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To: GILTN1stborn

I arrived at school on Friday to drop off my kids—there were two armed guards in police uniforms at the front entrance to the school.

I knew my kids would be safe that day.

Other parents spoke negatively about the guards. Those parents may not understand the threat facing their children. If these policemen should not be at the school, then what is the point of having police at all, anywhere?

I understand the seriousness of the safety of my kids.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 2:08:30 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: GILTN1stborn
Rahm Emmanuel is a hypocrite. Chicago has 2 uniformed Police in each of their high schools. Emmanuel was trying to adios most of that program, but I don't think he has.

Police officers are considered so essential that when CPS (Chicago Public Schools) gave high schools the opportunity this summer( 2010) to exchange their police officers for $25,000 in return, only four (4) schools gave up both of their assigned officers while a dozen (12) gave up one of their cops.3 In 2010, there were 122 high schools in the CPS system. This means that only 3 percent of schools were interested in giving up both of their assigned officers while another 10 percent were willing to part with only one.
18 posted on 12/22/2012 2:13:37 PM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: hinckley buzzard
That would cost about ten billion dollars a year

Where did that dollar number originate? Many schools already have security personnel who aren't uniformed.

19 posted on 12/22/2012 2:21:27 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Fire the school publicist, the assistant coach and the third level vice principal and there will be more than tnough money.

The task is a local one, not a ntional one. the talk about federal money is BS

We have had armed guards for years in the high school.

They were in one instance successful in stopping a shooter

Quit funding crack moms and fund deputies


20 posted on 12/22/2012 2:27:38 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Is it a law the killer has to walk through the front door holding a gun in his hand?
What’s to keep the guy that delivers the milk from blowing the school up.


21 posted on 12/22/2012 2:28:12 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: GILTN1stborn

Not if the job goes to the TSA.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 2:42:02 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

The Feds should protect the 2nd-Amendment rights of the teachers. That is all. Let locals manage school security.


23 posted on 12/22/2012 2:56:28 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: GILTN1stborn

Yes.

Get rid of one school administrator of any ilk or kind. I am SURE each and every public school in the US has one they can spare.

Replace with a cop/trained guard/ex-military volunteer/etc. with a gun.

I’d see that as a net gain overall.

THIS would be a change from the old saying that when seconds counts the police are minutes away.

I would also allow the teachers who wish to, to carry.

Something like this...

:-)


24 posted on 12/22/2012 3:11:56 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

If the proposed solution requires more government.....keep looking!


25 posted on 12/22/2012 3:18:19 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: austinaero
where do you get this number, ten billion dollars a year?

About 98,000 Public Schools. About 33,000 Private schools. At $75,000 per, including all benefits, is $9.8 billion a year.

This is why arming the teachers is a better approach.

26 posted on 12/22/2012 3:23:05 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
About 98,000 Public Schools. About 33,000 Private schools. At $75,000 per, including all benefits, is $9.8 billion a year.

Why can't people already employed by the school district be trained and authorized?

27 posted on 12/22/2012 3:31:04 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: GILTN1stborn
Hell, no, but only because I've known too many cops who were lazy doughnut-munching civil-service union slackers and a menace to themselves and everyone around them when they had a loaded gun in their hands, and who is a crisis could be counted on only to take cover and call for backup.

Besides, I don't even trust the TSA to screen my grandkids at the airport without groping their gonads. Fat chance I'd want more cretins like them wandering around public schools with a badge, a gun, and a license to commit strip searches and body-cavity probes.

No, if you really want to secure your schools, here's what you do: give your local school boards the authority to recruit a volunteer security force composed entirely of those men and women who have a lifetime of firearms and character-judgement experience and a proven willingness to put their very lives on the line in order to protect those kids.

The students' grandparents.

28 posted on 12/22/2012 3:44:34 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Subvert. Obstruct. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

These polls never come out the way the lefties want, and you never hear about them again.


29 posted on 12/22/2012 4:01:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Flatus I. Maximus; cruise_missile; Gosh I love this neighborhood; Mrs. P; Navy Patriot; MHGinTN; ...
Maybe police buildings should be part of the same structures as schools. Or within one hundred yards of a police station. Satellite stations. Another thought is that police rotate (walk) through a school several times a day

Some really good answers here as usual. I like the rotating police one and the one using vets. I doubt any FReeper would want to see the Federal Government in control of any of it. And unfortunately, the libs and unions in control of many schools are not likely to be able to make an intelligent decision. My fear for years has been a terrorist attack on a school. Some schools have useless requirements such as signing in at the office, but just like the TSA, no one is really enforcing or watching. I felt encouraged to see the results of the poll though. To me, it means at least in this area, people are not ready to trash the second amendment. It also enforced what I thought happened in November.

30 posted on 12/22/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: hinckley buzzard

The ‘security guards’ could also teach gun safety and shooting fundamentals don’tchaknow.


31 posted on 12/22/2012 4:31:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Randy Larsen

71% yes
29% no


32 posted on 12/22/2012 4:35:23 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: GILTN1stborn

Bad guys know who to go for with uniformed cops. Better to have regular, every day normal people carrying concealed. They can be cops, but they should not be in uniform.

I agree about the support for 2nd amendment.

And while we’re on the subject of what happened in November, is ANYONE looking into those districts that went 100 percent for Obama?


33 posted on 12/22/2012 5:10:38 PM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: Venturer

Why would they join SEIU?


34 posted on 12/22/2012 5:23:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GILTN1stborn

I do not. a “armed guard” is target #1.. Once out of the way, it’s a gun free zone again.

CC teachers and staff. You never know who is going to shoot back.


35 posted on 12/22/2012 5:28:02 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: GILTN1stborn
I'd prefer that existing school staff be allowed to voluntarily carry.

That wouldn't cost the taxpayers anything extra.

However, since there is only one pro-2nd amendment option on the poll, I chose "yes".

36 posted on 12/22/2012 5:40:08 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Alaska Wolf

“Why can’t people already employed by the school district be trained and authorized?”

Go into most any school in the country and look in thed office. I guarantee you will see at least 3 fat assed 60ish women sitting on their butts gabbing.


37 posted on 12/22/2012 8:04:12 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GILTN1stborn
It would be interesting, and informative, to know what percentage of school employees, administration, teachers, staff already possess a concealed carry permit and are prohibited by law from carrying in a "GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE"?

I believe the randomness of who is carrying would be more effective than identifying the only source of firearm protection.

This of course expects that the MSM does not publish a list of those in each school that have those permits - that's unlikely!
38 posted on 12/22/2012 9:01:56 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: chooseascreennamepat
Go into most any school in the country and look in thed office.

There are custodial workers, counselors, shop teachers, security people and coaches in many schools, aren't there?

39 posted on 12/22/2012 11:45:19 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: hinckley buzzard
That would cost about ten billion dollars a year--for a bunch of guys to stand around chatting with the school secretary for years on end, waiting for lightning to strike. Might as well hire Walmart greeters for half the price instead. Should they have metal detectors and X-ray machines too? Maybe just hire TSA flunkies like the airports do?

Nice whine - how about expressing a replacement solution when you cut another idea down? How much is it worth to preserve freedom from those who want to dismantle the Constitution piece-by-piece until we become like livestock to the government?

40 posted on 12/23/2012 3:24:39 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Why can't people already employed by the school district be trained and authorized?

That of course is the answer. But it is not the big overrnment solution.

41 posted on 12/23/2012 5:40:32 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
The upgrades to society such as being suggested should not be federal programs but state level solutions, so the feedback can be more efficiently utilized by those who know their local situations. of course, the federal oligarchs will not hear of that since it removes a potential expansion of their power ... the traitorous bastards.
42 posted on 12/23/2012 8:55:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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If these changes were decided by individual states, then out of fifty examples, the realistic ones would float to the front and the liberal whine-generated efforts would be exposed for the idiocy they usually are ... and of course that will not do!


43 posted on 12/23/2012 8:57:04 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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