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N.R.A. Envisions Ďa Good Guy With a Guní in Every School
New York Times ^ | December 21, 2012 | ERIC LICHTBLAU and MOTOKO RICH

Posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:18 PM PST by billorites

After a weeklong silence, the National Rifle Association announced Friday that it wants to arm security officers at every school in the country. It pointed the finger at violent video games, the news media and lax law enforcement — not guns — as culprits in the recent rash of mass shootings.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” Wayne LaPierre, the N.R.A. vice president, said at a media event that was interrupted by protesters. One held up a banner saying, “N.R.A. Killing Our Kids.”

The N.R.A.’s plan for countering school shootings, coming a week after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., was met with widespread derision from school administrators, law enforcement officials and politicians, with some critics calling it “delusional” and “paranoid.” Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a Republican, said arming schools would not make them safer.

Even conservative politicians who had voiced support this week for arming more school officers did not rush to embrace the N.R.A.’s plan.

Their reluctance was an indication of just how toxic the gun debate has become after the Connecticut shootings, as gun control advocates push for tougher restrictions.

Nationwide, at least 23,000 schools — about one-third of all public schools — already had armed security on staff as of the most recent data, for the 2009-10 school year, and a number of states and districts that do not use them have begun discussing the idea in recent days.

Even so, the N. R. A’s focus on armed guards as its prime solution to school shootings — and the group’s offer to help develop and carry out such a program nationwide — rankled a number of lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

“Anyone who thought the N.R.A. was going

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; nra; sandyhook; secondamendment
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1 posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:23 PM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
Why is there a Secret Service with GUNS all over 0bama?

Why are there any number of armed cops at the courthouse?

Why not just declare those places gun free zones?

2 posted on 12/22/2012 6:46:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I have a better question, why is this rag still in press? Nobody with half a brain - except effete New Yorkers and people who once were, bothers to read it.

Its a liberal fantasy piece - all of it.

Pure Trash and won’t improve under the leadership of the maniac dictator of New York City.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 6:51:42 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: billorites

Sounds like an excellent idea to me. I will volunteer my own time, unpaid, my own gear, pay for whatever background check, training, and qualification they want. Then ilk give the one day a month standing guard at any school in the county. Time for an old west volunteer posse.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:52:29 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Ernest Logan, president of the Council of School Supervisors and Administrators, called the N.R.A.’s plan “unbelievable and cynical.” He said placing armed guards within schools would “expose our children to far greater risk from gun violence than the very small risk they now face.”

Seriously - do we live in the Twilight Zone? The ONLY way that someone could argue that placing armed guards in the schools would expose our children to "far greater risk" is if one is arguing that the guards themselves would turn their guns on the kids. One of the commenters even says "and who will guard the guards?"

Ridiculous.

5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:52:47 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: billorites

Most schools don’t need armed security but they do need the option if they so choose.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:53:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: billorites

The state of New York is teetering on collapse.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 6:57:46 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: billorites

If there was a rash of bank robberies what would the NYT suggest to prevent them, banning getaway cars?


8 posted on 12/22/2012 6:58:07 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: RightFighter

Seriously - do we live in the Twilight Zone? The ONLY way that someone could argue that placing armed guards in the schools would expose our children to “far greater risk” is if one is arguing that the guards themselves would turn their guns on the kids. One of the commenters even says “and who will guard the guards?”

Logical arguments have no effect on someone whose position is based on emotion/hatred/fantical devotion to a political agenda.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:03:35 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: billorites

Dear Santa FreeperClaus: I’ve been an extra special good boy this year. I’m asking you for the same thing that I’ve asked for for the past two years. Please make the New York Times go away! I only swore once.....OK, it was more than once. And yes, I called that guy a baboon, but if he looks like a baboon and smells like a baboon and writes like a baboon, then what am I supposed to call him? Mr. Vice President? Sure....that other guy wanted me to do his research for free, and in the spirit of Christmas, I might have done it, but the Grinch made me say no. Well, I hope you can overlook these trifling, almost unnoticeable little jokes and get rid of that awful farm supply catalog trying to pass itself off as a newspaper. Felicia Nevada!


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a Republican, said arming schools would not make them safer.

Are all you fat bass turds (Michael Moore)related, physically, mentally, intellectually and politically?

How does one go about "arming" a school?

11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:17 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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(4-16-2000)Clinton Pledges Funds to Add Police to Schools

Didn't Clinton's police-in-schools plan after Columbine have police..in schools...with guns??

12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:09:46 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: billorites

So how do the Slimes think a bad guy shooting up a “gun free zone” gets stopped? With spit balls?


13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:11:52 PM PST by Red Steel
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I saw a COPS show on TV tonight where the Blues were doing a Sting on internet prostitution. There were at least three doing the audio and video; two or three being the sting come-ons; 6-8 doing the take downs and at least two outside as lookouts. They use about the same amount on drugs stings from what I have seen.
This show and others like this make me think that these Blues could work the schools and probably come up with the same number of Prostitutes/deviant-teachers and druggies if they were at public schools. At the same time keeping the random nutjob from roaming the corridors!

Maybe the Blues should put more emphasis on protecting children than making a bust of a whore or druggie that puts someone in jail for a day or two.
My $0.02 worth.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:29:02 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel!)
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Aren’t some schools already secured with nice guys with guns? Inner city schools have metal detectors. I assumed that many American schools were guarded.

I think that security will be a popular topic of conversation with teachers at schools all over the country. That expensive security system at the Sandy Hook School was a waste of money. When it comes down to their personal protection, perhaps the teaching community will agree with the NRA.

My food store has an armed guard.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:32:52 PM PST by mom.mom
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To: cripplecreek

If the Connecticut shooter failed to make it into the school he could have easily targeted a bus stop on/off school.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:35:03 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“Who will guard the guards” has an excellent answer: make everybody the guards.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:39:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Morris70

There are more than 100,000 schools in this country and a tiny fraction of a percent have had mass shootings.

Better to let the local school districts decide for themselves if they want a few discretely armed staff. It worked fine when I was growing up


18 posted on 12/22/2012 7:43:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: billorites

if the left insists on keeping crazy nut jobs on the street, what’s the alternative?

you don’t need guns to wipe out a school of kids and a few female teachers. just a little training, a knife, and chained doors. in that scenario, a gun would be their only protection

of course, that would be logical thinking... and ruins the emotional narrative the left is trying to muster

just like they were trying to do with fast & furious... how many died for that effort again? how many arrested and placed in jail for setting it in motion?


19 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:13 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: mom.mom

All Los Angeles high schools have armed protection.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:45 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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