Skip to comments.N.R.A. Envisions ‘a Good Guy With a Gun’ in Every School
Posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:18 PM PST by billorites
After a weeklong silence, the National Rifle Association announced Friday that it wants to arm security officers at every school in the country. It pointed the finger at violent video games, the news media and lax law enforcement not guns as culprits in the recent rash of mass shootings.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, Wayne LaPierre, the N.R.A. vice president, said at a media event that was interrupted by protesters. One held up a banner saying, N.R.A. Killing Our Kids.
The N.R.A.s plan for countering school shootings, coming a week after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., was met with widespread derision from school administrators, law enforcement officials and politicians, with some critics calling it delusional and paranoid. Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a Republican, said arming schools would not make them safer.
Even conservative politicians who had voiced support this week for arming more school officers did not rush to embrace the N.R.A.s plan.
Their reluctance was an indication of just how toxic the gun debate has become after the Connecticut shootings, as gun control advocates push for tougher restrictions.
Nationwide, at least 23,000 schools about one-third of all public schools already had armed security on staff as of the most recent data, for the 2009-10 school year, and a number of states and districts that do not use them have begun discussing the idea in recent days.
Even so, the N. R. As focus on armed guards as its prime solution to school shootings and the groups offer to help develop and carry out such a program nationwide rankled a number of lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
Anyone who thought the N.R.A. was going
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Why are there any number of armed cops at the courthouse?
Why not just declare those places gun free zones?
I have a better question, why is this rag still in press? Nobody with half a brain - except effete New Yorkers and people who once were, bothers to read it.
Its a liberal fantasy piece - all of it.
Pure Trash and won’t improve under the leadership of the maniac dictator of New York City.
Sounds like an excellent idea to me. I will volunteer my own time, unpaid, my own gear, pay for whatever background check, training, and qualification they want. Then ilk give the one day a month standing guard at any school in the county. Time for an old west volunteer posse.
Seriously - do we live in the Twilight Zone? The ONLY way that someone could argue that placing armed guards in the schools would expose our children to "far greater risk" is if one is arguing that the guards themselves would turn their guns on the kids. One of the commenters even says "and who will guard the guards?"
Most schools don’t need armed security but they do need the option if they so choose.
The state of New York is teetering on collapse.
If there was a rash of bank robberies what would the NYT suggest to prevent them, banning getaway cars?
Seriously - do we live in the Twilight Zone? The ONLY way that someone could argue that placing armed guards in the schools would expose our children to “far greater risk” is if one is arguing that the guards themselves would turn their guns on the kids. One of the commenters even says “and who will guard the guards?”
Logical arguments have no effect on someone whose position is based on emotion/hatred/fantical devotion to a political agenda.
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Are all you fat bass turds (Michael Moore)related, physically, mentally, intellectually and politically?
How does one go about "arming" a school?
Didn't Clinton's police-in-schools plan after Columbine have police..in schools...with guns??
So how do the Slimes think a bad guy shooting up a “gun free zone” gets stopped? With spit balls?
I saw a COPS show on TV tonight where the Blues were doing a Sting on internet prostitution. There were at least three doing the audio and video; two or three being the sting come-ons; 6-8 doing the take downs and at least two outside as lookouts. They use about the same amount on drugs stings from what I have seen.
This show and others like this make me think that these Blues could work the schools and probably come up with the same number of Prostitutes/deviant-teachers and druggies if they were at public schools. At the same time keeping the random nutjob from roaming the corridors!
Maybe the Blues should put more emphasis on protecting children than making a bust of a whore or druggie that puts someone in jail for a day or two.
My $0.02 worth.
Arent some schools already secured with nice guys with guns? Inner city schools have metal detectors. I assumed that many American schools were guarded.
I think that security will be a popular topic of conversation with teachers at schools all over the country. That expensive security system at the Sandy Hook School was a waste of money. When it comes down to their personal protection, perhaps the teaching community will agree with the NRA.
My food store has an armed guard.
If the Connecticut shooter failed to make it into the school he could have easily targeted a bus stop on/off school.
“Who will guard the guards” has an excellent answer: make everybody the guards.
There are more than 100,000 schools in this country and a tiny fraction of a percent have had mass shootings.
Better to let the local school districts decide for themselves if they want a few discretely armed staff. It worked fine when I was growing up
if the left insists on keeping crazy nut jobs on the street, what’s the alternative?
you don’t need guns to wipe out a school of kids and a few female teachers. just a little training, a knife, and chained doors. in that scenario, a gun would be their only protection
of course, that would be logical thinking... and ruins the emotional narrative the left is trying to muster
just like they were trying to do with fast & furious... how many died for that effort again? how many arrested and placed in jail for setting it in motion?
All Los Angeles high schools have armed protection.
Common sense would dictate that schools should have a “security officer” in plain clothes - instead of posting a sign outside which says “Gun Free Zone” .. giving criminals a reason to attack an unarmed place. A person with a concealed weapon (in plain clothes) would not be frightening to the children, but would allow for a person with weapons training to be on staff.
And .. a lot of people who might qualify are already getting a pension, etc., therefore, they might not be as expensive to employ as other people needing full-time work.
I have it on good authority (a former Navy Seal), that you can learn to handle a weapon in 10 minutes - good enough to allow you to hit a person who is endangering your life.
While I might hit them in the leg or the arm .. it just might be good enough to allow for another better shot - or it might totally stun the other person and cause them to drop their gun and run.
Remember too, the people who yell the loudest about banning guns are the ones who “conceal carry” their security personnel - and themselves. In other words; it’s okay for me but not for thee.
NRA envisions a Big Brother to protect every school.
SCREW the NRA! They are not even making a secret their desire to enslave us!
We have armed guards to protect the banks money, why not protect our even more precious children?
Gun-free zones killing our kids!
I recently visited the FAA FSDO in Renton WA and the place had barriers at all the parking lot exits, only one public entrance with metal detectors and several armed security guards. They were contractors, but they were well equipped.
LOTS of good-guys with guns. That’s what any sane pioneer community would have agreed upon as soon as anything so wicked as a school massacre got floated as a genuine possibility. You’d get a posse. And even the older kids would be part of it.
He may be on to something. Why not put two or more trained armed guards in every school, some schools are very big. I'd volunteer my time, except I live in Illinois where only the elite and other criminals can be armed.
It appears you hate the NRA as much as the leftist trash does. Coincidence?
Why not push for legislation requiring all non firearms owners to post a sign on their door informing the public of the fact?
funny few want to
I’d agree a “full cop” isn’t needed and sounds like a Big Brotherly overkill. The NRA has tried in the past to play off of leftist prejudices and has only gotten honest people stung for their troubles. (Like mandatory 5 year prison sentences for on-paper “gun crimes,” trying to buy off the monster.)
The NRA isn't perfect, but the organization has done more to promote, save and defend gun rights, and promote gun safety and education than any other organization. You and I may not believe or like it, but gun rights have become a political football and the game is being played in Washington D.C. Without the NRA lobby, I seriously doubt most of us could legally purchase or own a handgun today.
I ain’t here to blast NRA with a broad brush. (To mix a metaphor with a Kitchen Aid Mixmaster.) Still they ain’t oracles of perfection and it’s fine to disagree with particular pronouncements of theirs.
I already posted that. Who has done more to preserve and defend the 2nd Amendment?
The teacher’s unions envision some sort of magical force field surrounding the school that guns cannot pass through, crating a “sanctuary” where there simply are no guns to worry about.
Good, let’s keep them on the straight and narrow so they don’t squander themselves any worse than they have.
Guards, yeah. Cops, a sop and an overkill.
I’m agreeing that armed school guards won’t stop a determined individual.
Too many opportunities to shoot a group of kids to be effective short of arming the kids themselves.
It’s interesting that the Slimes puts ‘good guy’ in scare quotes.
More good guys with guns are exactly what we need.
Better to allow school staff to be armed if they wish without designating 1 person. Just the possibility that someone may be armed is about all the real deterrent there will ever be. Even if no one is armed, a threat wouldn’t have any reason to know it.
If I knew there were armed guards at school I would target offsite bus stops, maybe a park or mall.
The school shooter was not an idiot, just pissed off .