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Piers Morgan's Full-Auto Fantasyland (Ignoring the difference between full and semi-automatic)
American Thinker ^ | 12/23/2012 | Dmitri Rutkowski

Posted on 12/23/2012 7:23:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

CNN's Piers Morgan is known for his invasive, aggressive style of journalism and reliably left-leaning sympathies. In the wake of the recent atrocity at Sandy Hook School, however, the former British tabloid editor has taken to playing fast-and-loose with the facts regarding America's gun laws . . . in a manner that's "not quite cricket."

During his 12/21 broadcast at the 20 minute mark, Morgan repeatedly featured YouTube-type video footage illustrating the firing of a fully-automatic AR15 type rifle. What's wrong with that? Well, the problem stems from the fact that both the video's caption and Morgan himself describe the fully-automatic weapon (effectively a machine-gun) as semi-automatic. Compounding his misrepresentation, Morgan noted that rifles with the same capabilities as the weapon portrayed are commonly available to American consumers.

As many veterans and firearms enthusiasts are aware, fully-automatic rifles fire continuously when their triggers are depressed and they are not commonly available to the American consumer. In contrast, legal semi-automatic weapons fire one time when their triggers are depressed; certain types of these weapons are permissible to own for many qualified Americans who are of age, who have no history of mental ailment, who have a clean criminal record, and are not otherwise prohibited by law from doing so.

Videos of fully-automatic "machine-guns" spitting out bullets, while impressive and menacing, are not videos of semi-automatic weapons firing. To use these terms or images to describe these weapons interchangeably is misrepresentation of the basest kind.

America is not a fully-automatic culture. Actual machine-guns and real "assault-rifles" (which -- by definition -- have not only semi-auto capability, but full-auto as well, and frequently 3-shot burst these days) are prohibited from ownership

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; piersmorgan; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/23/2012 7:23:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump.

Very important, and very under-reported distinction.

(and just for good measure, another bump)


2 posted on 12/23/2012 7:26:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw the clip where he called his pro-gun guest “incredibly stupid”. I savor the day when someone jumps across the table and beats the shit out of him.


3 posted on 12/23/2012 7:29:55 AM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: SeekAndFind

For Facebook Freepers, there is a page to Deport Piers Morgan - you may want to give it a “like”. It was only over 100 last time I checked.


4 posted on 12/23/2012 7:30:48 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: SeekAndFind

-—nothing new here—the media has been doing this for over twenty years——


5 posted on 12/23/2012 7:31:12 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Hacksaw

RE: For Facebook Freepers, there is a page to Deport Piers Morgan

HA! With this President in the White House, this twit might even be given honorary citizenship the way Congress did for Winston Churchill.

In fact, Obama returned Churchill’s statue to England. He just might put Piers Morgan’s statue in its place.


6 posted on 12/23/2012 7:33:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Larry Kudlow on his Saturday night 12/22/12 show after blasting conservatives for the no tax increase vote allowed Musket Morgen to fire off rounds of off smoke asserting the ease of purchasing assult weapons,which Kudlow didn’t challange or correct at any point during the period Morgen appeared as a guest on Kudlow’s talkie.

Unless Kudlow lives under a rock it’s been reliably reported the guns were legally obtained and went through the series of Connecticut hoops and that the weapons were stolen. Kudlow played the whores game probably hoping for a guest spot on Piers show. And that’s the way the game is played kiddies


7 posted on 12/23/2012 7:39:08 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: catfish1957
"I savor the day when someone jumps across the table and beats the shit out of him."

Hopefully that individual will wear gloves while doing it. People like Piers Morgan are frequently HIV-positive.

8 posted on 12/23/2012 7:41:42 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We need to eplore this like we did Dam Rather. If he showed automatics and falsely claimed they were semi-auto we did to get his fired or at least make a big stink about this. He was fired from the Mirror tabloid in England cause he showed a false video of British military guys mistreating a captive. This could bring him down and help our cause. Anyone want to help..


9 posted on 12/23/2012 7:42:11 AM PST by therut
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To: SeekAndFind

As soon as they think they hjave a handle on why semi-autos need to be banned, they will begin to consider single/double action revolvers as semi-auto because you can keep firing by merely pulling the trigger with no need to re-cock.


10 posted on 12/23/2012 7:45:41 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I did a search the other day on full auto weapons and I was floored at how much they actually cost.

My brother-in-law is convinced they are readily available to the public and the internet is the prime source for purchasing.......he's a dummy.

Hell, since I live in Michigan, I couldn't even purchase an air rifle I wanted over the internet without having to go thru a local FFL dealer....

11 posted on 12/23/2012 7:49:34 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta ask what credibility a male who rims the rear of another male really has? The sickos have followers just as Sandusky had his.


12 posted on 12/23/2012 8:00:42 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sixty two years ago, on the high plains, a neighbor gave me a wooden Thompson look alike he had made.

If I had known it would have turned me into a RAVING MANIAC GUN NUT I would have asked him for two!


13 posted on 12/23/2012 8:25:44 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My favorite gun-ignorance story is about ten years old. There was a legislative open house at the Capitol in Hartford CT with kids from all over the state visiting to see how laws are made. The absurdity of that aside, the day ended when some ignorant fool reported a “sniper machine” gun pointed at the kids. The Capitol was evacuated while the state police, the Hartford police and the Capitol police combed the area. 3 hours later the “shooter” was identified as a television cameraman with a video camera equipped with a telephoto lens on a tripod who was still video taping the search. Rather than identifying the fool (most likely an NEA member teacher from one of the schools visiting the Capitol) we got solemn assurances that it was better to be safe than sorry.


14 posted on 12/23/2012 8:48:11 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SeekAndFind
OK. Who's responsible for this? Someone has been confusing this man with facts. Piers as a boy in class.
15 posted on 12/23/2012 8:49:36 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. "A long train of abuses and usurpations.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Does anybody else remember the CNN story, where in order to show how "deadly" these assault weapons were, they fired two rifles, one a "regular hunting rifle" and the other an AR-15. They made a point of noting that both fired the same cartridge. They fired the "hunting rifle" first, and the melon didn't even move. Then, when shot from the AR-15, the melon exploded! They showed that segment a number of times.

Later, it was revealed that the "marksman" who shot the rifles simply missed the melon with the hunting rifle, and CNN did a one-time retraction at about 2:30 in the morning.

Mark

16 posted on 12/23/2012 9:12:54 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I did a search the other day on full auto weapons and I was floored at how much they actually cost.

While full-auto weapons have always been more expensive than semi-autos, due to the "Firearms Owners Protection Act," it was declared that no full-auto weapons manufactured after the act was passed and signed (1985) could be sold to civilians. So the number of full-auto weapons in civilian hands was effectively capped, and the prices have skyrocketed ever since.

Mark

17 posted on 12/23/2012 9:18:17 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

Yes. That is why we need to investigate this and expose him like we did Dan Rather. He has been fired in England for another such false reporting. Come on lets do this. i am not computer savy enough to get this going.


18 posted on 12/23/2012 9:29:29 AM PST by therut
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To: SeekAndFind

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm


19 posted on 12/23/2012 11:12:19 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind
Like all gun-control advocates, Morgan is aggressively and deliberately stupid.
20 posted on 12/23/2012 11:19:14 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: SeekAndFind
A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

Dick Bachert 12/19/2012

21 posted on 12/23/2012 11:45:00 AM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: SeekAndFind
HA! With this President in the White House, this twit might even be given honorary citizenship the way Congress did for Winston Churchill. In fact, Obama returned Churchill’s statue to England. He just might put Piers Morgan’s statue in its place.

Oh, I know it's meaningless, but it is still fun. And the "likes" are over 260 now - the problem is that there are multiple pages for deporting him or it would be even higher.

22 posted on 12/23/2012 11:53:34 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: SeekAndFind
full-auto as well, and frequently 3-shot burst these days) are prohibited from ownership

American Thinker got that wrong. Fully automatic weapons are not prohibited on a Federal level. State and local rules vary from no problem to absolute ban. If you find your local authorities don't pitch a fit and you with to own a full auto weapon all you need is a $200.00 certified check for the Federal excise tax and a properly filled out BATF Form 4. It takes patience as the ATF takes months to process and approve the Form 4 but once it passes you can pick up your new toy at the Class III FFL dealer from whom you placed your order those many months ago. In addition to full auto you may purchase short barreled rifles and shotguns, suppressors, dangerous devices (bore over .50 caliber), and any other weapon (a catch all category for cane guns, pipe guns, pen guns, &c.) a relative bargain as the excise tax is $5.00.

Note that the $200.00 and $5.00 taxes have remained the same since 1934 and are probably the only Federal taxes that have never been raised.

Regards,
GtG

23 posted on 12/23/2012 12:13:30 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Dick Bachert

" Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! "

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In support of your statement, I respectfully submit Exhibit "A":


24 posted on 12/23/2012 6:38:19 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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