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The latest thing - petitions.whitehouse.gov/
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

Posted on 12/23/2012 5:41:28 PM PST by Jean S

We're seeing more and more of these petition threads. Do you feel comfortable signing a petition at White House website?

I don't.

They claim that Obama will consider the petitions when X number of signatures are logged.

I think they're collecting names.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: vanity

1 posted on 12/23/2012 5:41:33 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Yup, data collection for potential politcal enemies has been a MAJOR theme in this Regime


2 posted on 12/23/2012 5:45:15 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Jean S
I'm not a paranoid type person but I believe your dead on the mark.
3 posted on 12/23/2012 5:45:15 PM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jean S

They have probably had most of our names for a long time, being as how we post on FR——LOL!

Let them come and get me........I just don’t care any more.


4 posted on 12/23/2012 5:47:00 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Jean S

I’ve been publicly complaining about the government since Ruby Ridge. If they don’t have my name by now, then they’re bigger idiots than I thought.


5 posted on 12/23/2012 5:47:09 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Jean S

The petitions are a joke. They are nothing but a data mining operation. To sign, you must register with them including contact info.
They get a gold mine of grassroots info. ie, “Joe Blow in anywhere Missourri is someone we should contact to agitate when we are pushing a cap and trade bill and want congressmen flooded with calls”. Or, “we are pushing for an assault rifle ban, this state had a lot of people sign a petition opposing it, so we need to find a way to sweeten the deal for the congressmen from that state”.

The one thing it is not, is a way for people to communicate to the government. It’s a cynical fraud,,period.


6 posted on 12/23/2012 5:48:32 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Jean S

And if you sign for a liberal cause, the info will go straight to Obamas Organizing for America group for their get out the vote database.

This is trash and no conservative should get involved in it. Petitions, yes. Official government petition websites? Please no.


7 posted on 12/23/2012 5:51:57 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

>> It’s a cynical fraud,,period.

I signed the petition for building a Death Star. I guess that will put me on a list of people who like to serve evil empires and want to fight young, photogenic rebels.


8 posted on 12/23/2012 5:52:09 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

I remember years ago just after the 1968 Gun Control Act became law. Our local sporting goods-hardware store was collecting signatures on a petition to revoke the 1968 law.

One farmer, when asked to sign jumped back like he had been snakebit and yell “NO”! He admitted he was afraid to get his name on any such list that would go into government hands.


9 posted on 12/23/2012 5:54:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Jean S

Aside from these petitions being useless, flaccid, futile nothings, the government agency that performs security clearance investigations for government contracts has warned that your signature on some of these petitions (especially the secession petitions) could be grounds for refusal or revocation of a security clearance.


10 posted on 12/23/2012 5:55:39 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Jean S

It’s pointless exposure with no effect.

Bottom line: Absolutely *NOTHING* that we say or do makes any difference to The Usurper in the pursuit of his agenda.

Congress is broken.

The Bureaucracy is on *HIS* side.

It’s “We the People” versus The State. Period.

(See tag line.)


11 posted on 12/23/2012 5:57:39 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: DesertRhino; Jean S
The government is never satisfied with the amount of information they have on their subjects.

They want as much as possible.

I'm sure the have a very sophisticated data base with all relevant categories to pigeonhole all conservatives and cross reference to keep tabs on us.

And the same for the libs that go to their site. Get information for furthering the propaganda and brainwashing.

And of course fund raising.

Just more stuff by our Community Organizer in Chief, with the strings going up to V Jarrett's hands (The Man Behind The Curtain)

12 posted on 12/23/2012 5:58:14 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s silliness to act like it’s a gestapo round up, or some kind of targeting list. They laugh at such talk. The true power of those things is the data they glean from them that lets them win elections like the last one.

That was fraud, and a very efficient get out the vote system organized by the kind of kids that work at google.


13 posted on 12/23/2012 5:58:58 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Jean S
I think they're collecting names.

I remember reading, somewhere, going to the Cash for Clunkers website was considered approval for them to get access to your computer.

Does anyone else remember this? I think Glenn Beck broke the story. Glenn has been right about 99% of the time. (Like everyone else, no one thought Americans would be suicidal enough to reelect one of the worst, if not THE worst, presidents in U.S. history, but they paracitic voter managed to pull it off anyway.)

14 posted on 12/23/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Jean S

I won’t sign them. They’ll only tout the ones that agree with them anyway...I don’t need to put my name out there.


15 posted on 12/23/2012 6:01:48 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Jean S
They already have our names. We are screwed and our children are going to grow up in a Socialistic society. The Republic is dead and is being robbed of its assets as we speak. The general public and sheep are taking it up the rear end with glee.
16 posted on 12/23/2012 6:27:36 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Jean S

Did this petition thing online start with the Obama administration, or has it been around for a bit?


17 posted on 12/23/2012 6:30:45 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Jean S
You think they don't already have yours?
18 posted on 12/23/2012 6:36:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Jean S

I think they’re a bad joke that further confuses people about the way things are legitimately done in this country. Its like American Idol for government.


19 posted on 12/23/2012 6:44:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jean S

Personally, I don’t care if they are keeping lists, but I am sure they do.

I won’t sign any of these petitions, mostly because I think they’re a waste of time. Unless one is simply agreeing with a given position of the democrats, they don’t give a damn about what ‘real’ Americans think.


20 posted on 12/23/2012 6:44:38 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: vetvetdoug
We are screwed and our children are going to grow up in a Socialistic society. The Republic is dead...

You know, my libtard, uber-progressive, Obama loving brother has been trying to convince me of that very thing for umpty years now.

You on his side now, or are you sucking down the doom and gloom Kool-Aid?

21 posted on 12/23/2012 6:44:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jean S

Those petitions are a totally bogus waste of time. If you want to accomplish something petition your state house.


22 posted on 12/23/2012 6:47:52 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Sorry I can’t Comment ... I’m worried the Government might be watching

TT


23 posted on 12/23/2012 6:50:58 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Those petitions are a totally bogus waste of time. If you want to accomplish something petition your state house.

Considering how many people actually seem to think they mean something, I'd say they serve the purpose of furthering the destruction of America. People are now completely brain dead about civics.

Liberals here in Michigan are still squealing about right to work because "Obama won". They look at me like I'm an idiot when I point out that he didn't win a single seat in the Michigan legislature.
24 posted on 12/23/2012 6:56:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: basil

I agree, basil. Any of us who are active in politics are already on the list somewhere. I’ve signed DC petitions and no men in black came to my door.

Courage, people. If you are afraid of signing a list, what will you do if a real fight situation developes? No, I refuse to be intimidated by Nappy’s HS lists.


25 posted on 12/23/2012 6:56:41 PM PST by stilloftyhenight
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To: Windflier
are you sucking down the doom and gloom Kool Aid?

Hey newbie, I'm neither an Obama copulator or a doom and gloom. I am merely knowledgable of what is going on with our finances, politics, and social society. Do you think all is rosy and fine right now? We are in one hell of a mess that we'll be lucky to turn around in our lifetime if at all.

26 posted on 12/23/2012 6:59:11 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Jean S

I went there to sign it and I realised this was just a data gathering operation.

They will most likley be visiting and collecting guns from the signers.


27 posted on 12/23/2012 7:03:39 PM PST by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: vetvetdoug
Hey newbie, I'm neither an Obama copulator or a doom and gloom. I am merely knowledgable of what is going on with our finances, politics, and social society. Do you think all is rosy and fine right now?

I see you still have a spark of life in you. That's a good thing. I thought you were suicidal there for a minute, what with your talk about how "the republic is dead" and all.

I'm not picking on you personally, but when I see comments like that, I just have to wonder what on earth the poster's motivation is for saying such a thing. If all is lost, and the country has died - and there's nothing we can do about it - just what is the point of Free Republic?

Or even living, for that matter? Might as well cash it all in and party like it's the end of the world, if you really believe that. Otherwise, all you're doing is demoralizing your fellow patriots - many of whom have not lost the will to fight.

28 posted on 12/23/2012 7:19:44 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jean S

Agree completely. We know they have an enemies list - how much easier when the enemies put themselves on the list.


29 posted on 12/23/2012 7:46:06 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You think they don't already have yours?

Probably. What's your point? Do you think I should help them further by registering at whitehouse.gov to sign one of these petitions?

No thanks.

30 posted on 12/23/2012 7:54:17 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Thorliveshere
Did this petition thing online start with the Obama administration, or has it been around for a bit?

I don't know, I've only seen it recently.

31 posted on 12/23/2012 8:14:42 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

i thot about it as well but at some point you take a stand. I’m not sure if this is the time but i signed and created one. mebe its time to enumerate a new charter.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


32 posted on 12/23/2012 8:36:00 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: Jean S
I don't know, I've only seen it recently.

Sorry, didn't mean to direct that at you personally. I meant if anyone knew in general.
33 posted on 12/23/2012 8:51:21 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Syncro
"I'm sure the have a very sophisticated data base with all relevant categories to pigeonhole all conservatives and cross reference to keep tabs on us."

Yep! Such as the "Southern Poverty Law Center.org" where they volunteer to do this for the government!!!

34 posted on 12/23/2012 9:34:14 PM PST by SierraWasp (Blessed are they who prospect, dig & drill, for they are the primary producers of new, real wealth!!)
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35 posted on 12/23/2012 10:15:42 PM PST by Cololeo
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To: kennyboy509
They will most likley be visiting and collecting guns from the signers.

There's no reason to shrink from that challenge (even if it is true). It would be far better to give them 1M names then to fulfill their fantasy that nobody cares about the 2A.

36 posted on 12/24/2012 4:44:13 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Jean S
Do you think I should help them further by registering at whitehouse.gov to sign one of these petitions?

I do. Giving them your name and town (they can look up the rest) means you have chosen to speak out (1A) on the 2A. They can go ahead and feed 100k names into the computer and try to do some "data mining" or worse. But it would be much better if it were 1M names than 10k names.

37 posted on 12/24/2012 4:52:20 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Jean S

Obama toilet paper


38 posted on 12/24/2012 4:52:45 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: SierraWasp

There’s no reason to let the SPLC control the 1A. Perhaps going through the WH website isn’t the best way to fight that, but it’s a way.


39 posted on 12/24/2012 4:54:17 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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It is just a way to get angry people to let off a little steam. Don’t want the pressure cooker blowing up before it’s time.


40 posted on 12/24/2012 6:04:07 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: SierraWasp
Hmmm, Southern Poverty (<---what they wish on us) Law Center...

Isn't that Hilliary Clinton's baby?

41 posted on 12/24/2012 8:58:33 AM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro
Wow!!!

What a expansive trail of death and destruction of lives!!!

Nothing like Roy Rogers and Dale Evans singin "Happy Trails To You, Until We Meet Again." Phhhhhhht...

42 posted on 12/24/2012 11:07:37 AM PST by SierraWasp (Blessed are they who prospect, dig & drill, for they are the primary producers of new, real wealth!!)
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