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Forget Sharia—The New Egyptian Constitution Enshrines Socialism
Forbes ^ | 12/19/2012 @ 9:48AM | Bill Frezza

Posted on 12/24/2012 12:17:01 AM PST by Olog-hai

It isn’t every day that the world gets to watch the birth of a new constitutional democracy. As the political drama in the land of the Pharaohs unfolds, the Western commentariat seems totally focused on the extent to which Egypt’s new constitution will be informed by Sharia law. Alas, nary a peep can be heard about a far greater threat to Egypt’s freedom and prosperity.

The drafters of the new Egyptian constitution are blessed with having the history of two centuries of constitutional democracies to study. Evidence abounds on what works and what doesn’t, of which economic policies lead to rapid growth and which to stagnation and bankruptcy. Yet with all this information at their fingertips, the Egyptian people appear set to go to the polls to endorse … socialism.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; egyptconstitution; egyptmb; islamicsocialism; redjihad; religionofpeace; shariaconstitution
By extension, that is automatically National Socialism.
1 posted on 12/24/2012 12:17:04 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

OMG!! The Muslim Brotherhood chooses to be Nazis.

Like, I am so-o-o-o SHOCKED!


2 posted on 12/24/2012 12:37:42 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Egypt invented the hydraulic tyranny.


3 posted on 12/24/2012 2:05:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai
"...Wages shall be linked to production...and establishing a minimum wage"

Interesting. You get a 'minimum' but are allowed to work harder if you want to? Can you imagine what their 'union types' will think of those that choose to take advantage of the "Wages shall be linked to production" clause?

4 posted on 12/24/2012 3:06:51 AM PST by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: Olog-hai
Forget Sharia Socialism—The New Egyptian Constitution Enshrines Socialism Authoritarianism

There, fixed it.

5 posted on 12/24/2012 3:20:10 AM PST by gotribe
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To: Olog-hai
Socialism is integral to Islam, to Arab nationalism, and to the Nasserite state. More important, the endorsement of socialism in the new constitution legitimates Egypt's "deep state" in which ranking current and former military officers and politically connected businessmen control and loot the Egyptian economy.

The new constitution will thus perpetuate Egypt's poverty and inability to generate jobs and incomes for most of its populace. In a way, this is good because Egypt's enduring economic weakness will help make the new regime more tractable because it will, like it predecessor, be dependent on US financial support and unable to go to war against Israel.

In time, discredit will also attach to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamist ideology. This will likely lead to a weakening of the larger Islamist movement and to Islam itself among the Egyptian public, just as Islam has become thoroughly discredited among most Iranians because of the failures and miseries of being ruled by Shiite mullahs.

6 posted on 12/24/2012 3:20:55 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

I wasn’t joking about national socialism in the OP. The state of Nasser and even his MB rivals is definitely based on that concept.

And take note of how Egypt has been cozying up to Iran.


7 posted on 12/24/2012 3:38:07 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks for posting
Went back to posting several times to see if there was some postings relavence to subject, and attempted to try the Forbes link which bounced all over the place.

The difference between an “islamist” and a socialist is that one believes there is some sort of a supreme being which orders everybody must conform to “what is written” and the other which does not profess in any such being but demands conformity to what the “collective” decides .My argument against islam on religious grounds is http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm

Outside of the theistic claim there is no difference between the two. Both demand authoritarian conformity, and the complete surrender of oneself to the state.. Hence a socialist would find themselves in agreement with some islamic “solutions” expressed in any state constitution such as been developed by the “brotherhood” and might support it as a stepping stone. Then work to kick out the deism portions and insert the “collectives” wishes in its place.

But this might explain why Forbes Bill Frenza feels Egypts new constitution appears to be socialist.


8 posted on 12/24/2012 4:03:45 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: mosesdapoet

Bump


9 posted on 12/24/2012 4:11:06 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Olog-hai

My FRiends, I do not know how to properly say this and make myself understood, but here we are reading about a Constitution of another Country, when we should be a bit more worried about our own.

What good is a Constitution when the leaders of a country ignore its contents.Our own Constitution is taking hits every day.Our Supreme Court under Roberts —instead of ruling on laws has begun deciphering and interpreting them to fit an agenda.

Our leadership in the Congress is allowing our President powers that he is not entitled to, and trying to take away the rights given by that document.

I believe Americans should pay more attehtion to the damage being done to out own Constitution and pay less attention to a Constitution being written in a country that is beyond redemption. I might add beyond redemption due to the interference of our own would be dictator.


10 posted on 12/24/2012 4:52:39 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Rockingham
"...ranking current and former military officers and politically connected businessmen control and loot the Egyptian economy."

Crony Socialism....just like Ozero's plan to destroy America.

11 posted on 12/24/2012 4:56:28 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: mosesdapoet

from what we have seen and heard this may well be the model government Obama wants to install in the US. I wonder if any of his cronies were involved in the writing of the Egyptian document??


12 posted on 12/24/2012 5:25:05 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SatinDoll

Obama, the grand mufti of Washington DC.


13 posted on 12/24/2012 5:31:42 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: mosesdapoet

I view Islamics as “poets of the socialists”. They have this Koran book which is about developing personal hate incantation for the implementation of a socialist plan. The socialist comes with that plan, that organization, which the Koran was incapable of formulating coherently. One is the answer to the other’s calling and hypocrisy. Islam is a pseudo religion, it is rooted in political loopholes and going for those political answers, even to discard the poetic book if need be altogether, as a loophole. Islam is filled with loophole, and its holy book is only temporary scheme.


14 posted on 12/24/2012 5:36:27 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Olog-hai

Genesis was very clear a went it reported that Egypt was forever to remain a ‘base’ Nation.


15 posted on 12/24/2012 5:37:39 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: Olog-hai

Militant Islam has many connections to Nazism, and old ones at that:

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/


16 posted on 12/24/2012 5:40:43 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Olog-hai

Interesting. Thanks for posting. Socialism & Sharia = Twin Towers of Totalitarianism


17 posted on 12/24/2012 5:52:03 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Olog-hai

The MB has always been pro-Communist. It was probably just a Communist front all along.


18 posted on 12/24/2012 6:42:47 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: newfreep

We are not there yet.


19 posted on 12/24/2012 7:52:44 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Olog-hai
Egypt, once a granary for the world, can no longer feed her own people without massive US aid. This reflects the dismal effects of both its socialist system and Islam. There is at least some reason for optimism that the Muslim Brotherhood will not be able to fully control Egypt or use it to enhance their strength.

Notably, Morsi and the Brotherhood have recently gotten more push back than could have been expected when he came to power; and although Egypt can help Iran, there is little that Iran can do the help Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood.

20 posted on 12/24/2012 8:01:26 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Venturer
Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought she would lend her so-called wisdom to the drafters of Egypt’s new constitution at one time . . . (remember, these are oathbreakers who swore to defend the US Constitution):
As Egyptian officials prepare to send to trial 19 American democracy and rights workers, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg visited Cairo last week where she suggested Egyptian revolutionaries not use the U.S. Constitution as a model in the post-Arab Spring.

“I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” Ginsburg said in an interview on Al Hayat television last Wednesday. “I might look at the constitution of South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, have an independent judiciary. It really is, I think, a great piece of work that was done.” …
Ginsburg is not only an oathbreaker but a traitor. The South African constitution reads like the USSR’s constitution. Just like there are too many similarities between the new Egyptian constitution and the USSR’s constitution.
21 posted on 12/24/2012 12:03:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Rockingham

Egypt will weaken its own economy in the name of Islam, then continually threaten Israel with words to negotiate increasing aid from the US. Same game as Arafat and Hamas have perfected over 30 years.


22 posted on 12/24/2012 4:51:18 PM PST by research99
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To: Olog-hai

Now we see why democrats love Islam.

democrats = socialism


23 posted on 12/25/2012 10:16:29 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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