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Disarmament plan: First label everyone with a mental disorder, then use that to take their guns
Natural News ^ | 12/22/2012 | Jon Rappaport

Posted on 12/24/2012 5:37:11 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

There is no doubt at all that the left wants to seize guns from the hands of the honest, law-abiding citizens, and deliberately leave them in the hands of the “downtrodden underclass oppressed poor” so they can waltz right in and take what they want.


21 posted on 12/24/2012 6:31:36 AM PST by I want the USA back (You know I'm right.)
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To: docbnj

Another reasonable cause for disqualification for a gun permit is alcoholism. This is more difficult to assess, because some alcoholics mange (through AA or some other program) to stay clean for long periods of time, or forever. Most, however, rate very unreliable. This might not be dangerous, except that a certain proportion of people become irrationally aggressive when intoxicated.

Most states which issue permits would probably deny them to chronic alcoholics. A drunk-driving record would probably be a good indication that an individual should not get a permit.

Chronic use of illegal drugs should also be a disqualification. This is now a problem, because of the acceptance in many places of the fraud of “medicinal marijuana.”


22 posted on 12/24/2012 6:36:05 AM PST by docbnj
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To: GenXteacher
The American Psychiatric Association normalized homosexuality years ago- because they are another arm of the far left.

Conference aims to normalize pedophilia

"If a small group of psychiatrists and other mental health professionals have their way at a conference this week, pedophiles themselves could play a role in removing pedophilia from the American Psychiatric Association’s bible of mental illnesses — the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), set to undergo a significant revision by 2013. Critics warn that their success could lead to the decriminalization of pedophilia.
The August 17 Baltimore conference is sponsored by B4U-ACT, a group of pro-pedophile mental health professionals and sympathetic activists. According to the conference brochure, the event will examine “ways in which minor-attracted persons [pedophiles] can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process” and how the popular perceptions of pedophiles can be reframed to encourage tolerance."

23 posted on 12/24/2012 6:39:04 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: IbJensen

Not new. This is a product of the “Frankfurt School” which subsumed a bunch of disciplines in the US, including psychiatry. Declaring opposition to Communist goals a form of mental illness is standard procedure.


24 posted on 12/24/2012 6:49:30 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Little Ray; IbJensen
Communist goal 20.Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

Communist goal 32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

Finally Communist Goals 38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

25 posted on 12/24/2012 6:54:48 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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sfl


26 posted on 12/24/2012 7:02:08 AM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: bgill

“It’s not just the gun shop files that will be raided but doctors’ records as well.”

Obamacare takes care of the “doctor record” thingee with the creation of a “National Bureau of All Citizen’s Medical Records Office of Overreach and Complete Control”.

Want to buy a gun at your local gun store? The NCIC check will be tied to your medical records held by the above mentioned office. In just a few minutes, the gun store clerk will know that you have previously been found to be mentally deficient...thereby resulting in a refusal to sell you a gun.

One thing most folks will not know? Your voting record will also be part of the NCIC check. Didn’t vote for the Kenyan (or other Dimwitocrat du jour)...automatic “mental defective” diagnosis.

Might be time to take some gunsmithing courses...learn how to roll-your-own.


27 posted on 12/24/2012 7:13:29 AM PST by moovova
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To: RC one; IbJensen
Call me crazy but I don’t trust leftist socialist governments, especially when they start going after firearms.

Someone here on FR said this (and I paraphrase).... Someone trying to take away the Second Amendment is THE justification for having the Second Amendment.

28 posted on 12/24/2012 7:46:33 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: IbJensen
Simply put: diagnose everybody and his brother with a mental disorder, and then assert that any such diagnosis bars a person from obtaining a gun permit.

It's already been done to "felons". There are all sorts of felonies that are non violent, having nothing whatsoever to do with guns, yet felons (all) are barred from owning guns.

If you are 50 years old and you had a felony shop lifting charge on your record from when you were 18 years old, you may not own a gun. Same with embezzlement and a host of other non violent crimes

Part of the punishment you receive should not be a life time of giving up your God given right to protect your self and family.

29 posted on 12/24/2012 8:00:52 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: docbnj

What other God given rights would you deny forever, convicted non violent felons who have served their time?

I just scanned your list, none of the one’s I saw are constitutional, too many to go into. Just take the first one you listed and think about it a little and then go out and find a 20 year old vet and thank him/her for defending your freedom.

It appears that you may not like gun grabbers as long as you get to make the rules for others and define “gun grabbers” on your own terms.


30 posted on 12/24/2012 8:08:45 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: docbnj
I just scanned your list, none of the one’s I saw are constitutional

Meant to type unconstitutional.

31 posted on 12/24/2012 8:11:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: Safetgiver; docbnj
When I came back from VN

Were you under 25 years old when you came back? I was. "docbnj" rules would deny you the God given right to carry and defend yourself and family.

Go defend your country in some God forsaken jungle but not in your home country defending yourself.

I'm a 67 years old vet, maybe to old to carry according to liberal thinking?

32 posted on 12/24/2012 8:18:21 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: IbJensen
I think this ties right in with your other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2971855/posts

If they manage to legislate both gun ownership and conservative Christianity as being commitable psychological pathologies, then it's possible you may see the mental institutions reopened...not for the mass murderers, but for us.

"Welcome to the Sunny Acres Convalescent Facility...now please take your psychotropic meds so the nice nurse won't have to shoot you." /s


33 posted on 12/24/2012 8:22:05 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: docbnj
Meant to type unconstitutional.

I'll get it right yet. None is Constitutional.

Maybe I am addled and should be denied my God given rights? Or maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet.

34 posted on 12/24/2012 8:24:54 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: Graybeard58; All
Disarmament plan: First label everyone with a mental disorder
(or some-other law), then use that to take their guns
Isn't that what Ayn Rand; posited in Alas Shrugged?....
if I had the "resources / mental discipline"; I'd go "GALT", too.
I'm re-re-rereading it "very dog-eared copy" now.
"An armed populace; Is a peaceful populace."

or words to that effect....

35 posted on 12/24/2012 8:26:13 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :-)
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To: Graybeard58

I was 22. Out at 24 after 5.


36 posted on 12/24/2012 8:15:44 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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