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Gas used in Homs leaves seven people dead and scores affected, activists say
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/gas-used-homs-leaves-seven-people-dead-and-scores-affected-activists-say ^ | December 24, 2012 - 04:07 | aljazeera

Posted on 12/24/2012 7:50:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Syria Live Blog

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Seven people have died in Homs after they inhaled a "poisonous gas" used by government forces in a rebel-held neighbourhood, activists said.

Activists also told Al Jazeera on Sunday night that scores of others were affected in al-Bayyada neighbourhood. Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Residents said they did not know the nature of the gas used.

"The situation is very difficult. We do not have enough facemasks. We don't know what this gas is but medics are saying it's something similar to Sarin gas," Raji Rahmet Rabbou, an activist in Homs, told Al Jazeera.

A doctor treating patients subsequently said the gas seemed to be a concentrated form of tear gas that has not been used in Homs before. Inhaling large amounts can lead to suffocation and death, he said.

The gas appears to have been used during a battle with rebel fighters.

We received the following videos from a field clinic in the city:


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.aljazeera.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alawiteterrorism; homs; religionofpieces; syria; waronterror

1 posted on 12/24/2012 7:50:53 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; MestaMachine
H/T to Hot Air for pointing to this Wired article which reported the article posted....

Wired:

Did Assad just use nerve gas against the rebels?

2 posted on 12/24/2012 7:54:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obviously, it don't sound good. Hopefully it was an isolated incident. Looks like our Army is in process of sending a number of units to various African countries.
Things could really heat up fast. I for one don't want to hear about US forces having to go into Syria, as been suggested by this administration.

3 posted on 12/24/2012 7:57:25 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

‘Stop! Or I’ll yell ‘stop’ again!’ -Obama


4 posted on 12/24/2012 7:58:39 AM PST by mkboyce
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Warning.....GRAPHIC Videos


5 posted on 12/24/2012 8:00:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Marine_Uncle

That Wired link has a very GRAPHIC video of the patient suffering and gasping .....


6 posted on 12/24/2012 8:03:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I watched it. Trouble with a lot of those vids coming out of those lands is half the time you don't if it is staged or not.
Guess we shall see if this story is true or no as it is found in the L/MSM. I'll be on and off the boards today. In case I don't connect with you a bit latter, Merry Christmas Ernie, HIS best to you and yours.
7 posted on 12/24/2012 8:08:39 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But - But - The Won said this would be a “red line” that Syria better not cross - didnt they take him seriously?


8 posted on 12/24/2012 8:09:33 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Marine_Uncle
From Haaretz:

Syrian rebels claim Assad regime uses chemical weapons

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Arab media and opposition activists reported Monday that Bashar Assad's regime has used chemical weapons for the first time since fighting began in Syria.

According to an Al-Jazeera report, activists in the Al-Bayada neighborhood in Homs, which is under rebel control, claimed they have been targeted with gas by government forces. The opposition said in a separate statement that jet fighters dropped bombs containing 'poisonous material' on Homs.

According to the reports, six or seven people were killed in the attack and dozens wounded. A video posted by Al-Jazeera shows a man being treated with a respirator after allegedly being wounded by nerve gas.

Residents reported those wounded suffered from nausea, delirium and breathing difficulties, but said they do not know what type of gas was used. The opposition also claimed that four people were left blind and four other paralyzed. "The situation is very bad," one of the rebels told Al-Jazeera. "We don't have enough gas masks, we do not know what gas this is, but doctors say it resembles sarin."

In the past few weeks, the U.S. and other Western countries have claimed that intelligence reports appear to show Assad's regime moving chemical weapons and preparing them for use as the regime gradually loses control over the country. The West has warned Assad that use of chemical weapons would constitute a "red line" and would have international ramifications. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned of U.S. action in such a scenario.

Last week, Russia's foreign minister said the Syrian government has consolidated its chemical weapons in one or two locations amid a rebel onslaught.

Sergey Lavrov says Russia, which has military advisers training Syria's military, has kept close watch over its chemical arsenal. He said the Syrian government has moved them from many arsenals to just "one or two centers" to properly safeguard them.

9 posted on 12/24/2012 8:11:10 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: capydick
H bloviates a LOT!
10 posted on 12/24/2012 8:14:35 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It just doesn’t make sense to me.

I am not saying it didn’t happen, just that it doesn’t make sense.

If you are going to set yourself up for an accusation of using gas, why would you use it in such a limited way.
If this was military gas certainly the shell would have held mush more gas than this.

I am often wrong but it appears to me that the people using the gas were the rebals and they are using it to bring other coun tires into this fight with Assad. It looks like a frame up to me.

I cannot speak for Assad, it would seem to me that if he were going to take the rap for using gas he would use it to wipe clean the whole mess of them.

The video could be a lot of things besides what they say are Doctor treating gas victims.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 8:15:02 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Marine_Uncle
I will be around here a bit this morning then off for Christman Eve services and family gathering with my son,....tomorrow will be out traveling to my Daughters gathering in the High Desert...

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

And Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!

12 posted on 12/24/2012 8:19:06 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Read the article. We don't know who used the gas. I wouldn't be surprised if some one other then official Syrian forces tried to pull off something cute to escalate conditions to the "red line".
The Russians should be held accountable for keeping the crap in safe storage. Let them use their troops to go into towns and villages and fight.
13 posted on 12/24/2012 8:22:04 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ya don’t say!!


14 posted on 12/24/2012 8:22:16 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not sure we can trust Al Jazeera to report this. The emir of Qatar owns Al Jazeera and he also has been providing support to the Salafist Jihadis fighting against Assad in Syria...


15 posted on 12/24/2012 8:22:50 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: Venturer

Very true.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 8:23:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "And Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all! "
Dittos.
17 posted on 12/24/2012 8:25:00 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: LSUfan

See #9.


18 posted on 12/24/2012 8:25:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m no expert but that video doesn’t seem to show a victim of Sarin. I have seen guys in worse shape coming out of the “gas chamber” in the Marine Corps from CS Tear Gas.


19 posted on 12/24/2012 8:28:01 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What better way to get outside intervention than stage a Chemical gas attach by the Gov. Al Qaeda gets the USA to do their dirty work, take out Assad, while they take over the country. Could be wrong, maybe not.


20 posted on 12/24/2012 8:29:46 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

CS causes nausea and difficulty breathing too. I know first-hand!


21 posted on 12/24/2012 8:31:11 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What a shame. Muslims really need to stop fighting each other and everybody else. We don’t need to get involved. The only country in the ME to protect is Israel. Case closed.


22 posted on 12/24/2012 8:33:55 AM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"...US forces having to go into Syria, as been suggested by this administration."

But, but, But... how can this be -- when the King's Useful Idiot supporters were wearing their '68 vintage Peace plumage ?



"oops"
23 posted on 12/24/2012 9:01:57 AM PST by TArcher
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To: Venturer

I am equally skeptical. Our history with Serbia and false war crimes charges is instructive.


24 posted on 12/24/2012 9:02:08 AM PST by Truth29
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To: TArcher

And with the won vacationing in Hawaii and the SoS hiding at home probably enjoying the sauce. :)


25 posted on 12/24/2012 9:15:58 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
If it was staged, it was probably staged by either the O’Bumbler Administration, or at least with their blessing.

Make no mistake, This administration is Hell bent on installing another Islamist regime in the Middle East. The King of Jordan should be sweating right now.

O’Bumbler will give arms and air support to the Rebels in Syria in order to topple Assad, he is simply looking for the chance.

At first it will look like a victory for self rule. It will then degenerate into another nightmare like Libya, Egypt and Iran. Jimmy Carter writ large, without the intelligence and personality!

26 posted on 12/24/2012 9:34:55 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Dallas59
Trad about R2P....on this thread ,..post #7

Russian military presence in Syria poses challenge to US-led intervention

27 posted on 12/24/2012 9:37:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let Europe fight the Russians instead of having million man marches about how evil the US is.


28 posted on 12/24/2012 9:45:01 AM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The chronology of events over the weekend went like this.

Russians and Chinese claim Syria has all its WMD under control and safe.

Iran claimed a report from Syria stated that 7 Syrian military professionals were attacked by gas from rebels.

Israel claimed Syria has all its WMD under control.

Rebels claim Syrian gas attack in Homs.

So this is how WWIII breaks out ?

Chemical war of words: Syrian govt, rebels trade accusations

29 posted on 12/24/2012 10:22:35 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Marine_Uncle
Looks like our Army is in process of sending a number of units to various African countries.

Well, when you want the truth from the media about US troops in today's post modern apocalyptic world, you have to go to Cuba, of all places, to learn what the Germans know.

Troops from France and the U.S. Get Ready to Enter Syria, Reports German Newspaper

30 posted on 12/24/2012 10:28:23 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

there have been tons of claims by the rebels that in spite of many other claims have provem to be umverified and without facts that anyone has been able to verify

American public needs to be converned about the use of false claims about Assad and WMD use as excuses for deeper U.S. intervention

intervention that will be, no matter how bad Assad is, in the interest of the MB in Syria and their radical Wahabi-Sunni backers, not in our interest


31 posted on 12/24/2012 11:34:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli
...there have been tons of claims by the rebels that in spite of many other claims have proven to be unverified and without facts that anyone has been able to verify

Just proven. They used Agent 15 or 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate. NATO calls it "BZ".

Here's What The 'Agent-15' Chemical Weapon Probably Used In Syria Does To People

The Russians however are sticking to their story.

Russian Embassy to Syria says has no evidence chemical arms were used

FYI - The Syrians also have claimed that the Rebels used gas this weekend. And in case someone does not know where this is all headed.

Israel’s Nightmare is beginning to Materialize

Either way, this is the first time in history that chemical weapons could end up beyond the control of a strong military or leader.

32 posted on 12/24/2012 12:01:40 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Oh Man!


33 posted on 12/24/2012 1:48:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: justa-hairyape
Like concentrated Tear Gas.....
34 posted on 12/24/2012 1:57:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Jim from C-Town
I wouldn't want to bet against what you wrote. :)
Merry Christmas.
35 posted on 12/24/2012 2:36:55 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Son of a b. Looks like things are being lined up for another total mess to ratchet up. Putin is going to have to make some hard choices. Should the ruskkie get involved in fighting the US and NATO at this point.
Perhaps things are being set up to force their hand to do something about the stock piles with their own forces. I would hate to have to be in a betting game at this point.
Merry Christmas.
36 posted on 12/24/2012 2:46:19 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Like concentrated Tear Gas.....

If the timeline of news reports reflects reality, then the rebels first used a yellow gas on Syrian troops and killed about 7-8 of them. At that point, Assad and the Russians realized that even reporting that fact could justify either Western Invasion or Israeli attacks on the WMD stores.

So the Russians and Chinese decided to report that Assad has full control of all his WMD. In other words, it was not Assad's WMD's used in the attack on Syrian troops. When the Israeli's read this, they concur with the Rus/Chicoms, for some undetermined reason. Any ideas why ?

So then we get word that the Syrian counter attack at Homs used a concentrated tear gas, borderline WMD. So the Syrians are dishing up some payback with borderline WMD material.

In the meantime, Emperor Zero is out body surfing at the luau.

37 posted on 12/24/2012 2:49:21 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I could not care LESS about what these animals do to each other.


38 posted on 12/24/2012 2:54:25 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Merry Christmas. Hopefully it wont be our last. Here is some of the latest news. Perhaps someone pulled Emperor Zero out of the water long enough for him to deny reality once again.

U.S. Officials Doubt Syrian Rebels’ Chemical Attack Claim

Then we have the opinion of this former British Army General. The Kobayashi Maru scenario.

Invade Syria and risk chemical weapons falling into wrong hands, former British Army general warns


39 posted on 12/24/2012 3:01:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
RE: "Perhaps someone pulled Emperor Zero out of the water long enough for him to deny reality once again."
Now that is quite a clever way of describing the commie muslim. :)
I'll check out the two URL links.
40 posted on 12/24/2012 3:48:10 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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