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Anxiety Rises As Americans Face Start of Obamacare
Townhall.com ^ | December 24, 2012 | Byron York

Posted on 12/24/2012 6:14:33 PM PST by Kaslin

This March will mark three years since Obamacare became law, and it still has not had any serious effect on most Americans' lives. That's the way President Obama and the law's Democratic authors planned it; they conveniently pushed the dislocations and unhappy consequences of national health care well past their re-election campaigns.

But Obamacare will be here soon, with an Oct. 1, 2013, start of enrollment in insurance exchanges and a Jan. 1, 2014, deadline for full implementation. The political results could be deeply painful for Democrats.

During the campaign for Obamacare, President Obama pledged repeatedly that his health care scheme would not touch the vast majority of Americans who are satisfied with their coverage. "No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people," Obama said in June 2009. "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."

If anyone believed that then, they probably don't believe it now. In practice, Obamacare will mean the loss of employer-based health insurance for many people; big increases in premiums for others; changes on the job for still others; and a bureaucratic nightmare for many more. Add to that the involvement of the Internal Revenue Service, which will act as Obamacare's enforcer -- all Americans will have to prove to the IRS that they have "qualified" coverage -- and it's likely Obamacare will have a rocky and unpopular start.

Over the past months there has been scattered press coverage of coming problems. That is likely to increase in 2013. There will be more stories with headlines like this, from Bloomberg News recently: "Aetna CEO Sees Obama Health Law Doubling Some Premiums."

And this, from the Associated Press: "Surprise: New Insurance Fee in Health Overhaul Law."

And this, from the Wall Street Journal: "Health-Care Law Spurs a Shift to Part-Time Workers."

Real-world experience might even spark some rethinking of Obamacare's premises. For example, the president and his Democratic allies promised Obamacare will cut the deficit. That's almost certainly not true, although many in the press repeated it faithfully. Now, with Obamacare near, there are hints of a reassessment.

For example, in a recent editorial about fiscal cliff negotiations, The Washington Post noted that the nation's "underlying fiscal problem is that federal expenditures are slated to rise faster than economic growth," and that "the long-term drivers" of those federal expenditures are "Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and subsidies for the health-care exchanges established by the Affordable Care Act." Obamacare will take its place as a contributor to future deficits.

Obamacare has never been popular. Indeed, it has been underwater in terms of public approval from the moment it began to take legislative shape in 2009. In last month's exit polls, 49 percent said all or part of Obamacare should be repealed, while 44 percent said it should be left as is or expanded.

"There hasn't been any trend," says pollster Scott Rasmussen. "From the beginning, well before the law was passed, public opinion has been remarkably stable and modestly negative. ... All of that has been based upon theory and politics. Most Americans have not yet felt any impact from the law."

If Obamacare were popular, there's no doubt more governors would choose to have their states set up insurance exchanges, as the law envisioned. Instead, nearly two dozen Republican governors have refused, which will force the federal government to build the exchanges itself.

The governors are saying no to state-run exchanges for three reasons. One, they believe it will cost their states too much money. Two, they believe the federal government will exercise ultimate control over everything, despite federal reassurances that states will play a significant role. And three, many believe Obamacare implementation will be a disaster.

Some who watch Obamacare closely see something similar. "The administration is well behind schedule," says James Capretta of the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center. "It's going to be a train wreck in a lot of places."

Capretta sees the administration trying to paper over some of the problems by rushing billions of dollars in subsidies out the door. That way they will argue Obamacare is doing much good, whatever its flaws.

But it's possible no amount of money will be enough to hide those flaws -- once Obamacare becomes a reality in Americans' lives.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: barackobama; healthcare; obamacare

1 posted on 12/24/2012 6:14:42 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

bump


2 posted on 12/24/2012 6:15:33 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Kaslin

I’m certain there will be no racism in Obamacare.


3 posted on 12/24/2012 6:16:21 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Kaslin

This is why I’m a registered Democrat. When they start rationing healthcare I won’t be a second class citizen.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 6:26:52 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Kaslin
For those of us who read the whole thing, it's not a surprise.
There are many more draconian idiocies hitting us soon.
"We have to pass the bill so we can see what's in it." as Nanzi said. We are indeed about to see it.
I hope everyone affected takes every opportunity to protest loudly. Let's see if a million lawsuits can kill this monster.

5 posted on 12/24/2012 6:27:30 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin

The liberals have told us that, when people find out what’s in Obamacare, that then they are in favor of it.

It’s only because conservatives demonized it by labeling it “Obamacare” that so many Americans are opposed, according to liberals.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 6:28:44 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kaslin

The liberals have told us that, when people find out what’s in Obamacare, that then they are in favor of it.

It’s only because conservatives demonized it by labeling it “Obamacare” that so many Americans are opposed, according to liberals.


7 posted on 12/24/2012 6:28:53 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
it's turning out to be obamaKKKare. it's worse than any had imagined ~ it's like one of those schizophrenic mass murderers prepared the text.

Actually, a guy who e-mailed pictures of a bulge in his underware prepared the text.

8 posted on 12/24/2012 6:33:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dilbert San Diego
it's turning out to be obamaKKKare. it's worse than any had imagined ~ it's like one of those schizophrenic mass murderers prepared the text.

Actually, a guy who e-mailed pictures of a bulge in his underware prepared the text.

9 posted on 12/24/2012 6:33:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
The political results could be deeply painful for Democrats.

Idiot democrat voters will get a taste of the US economy, Obama-style, very soon. Republicans were trying to save them from the forthcoming financial apocalypse, but noooooooo, they weren't having any of that! The extra $$$ they'll be shelling out will have to come from somewhere (can't do without those fancy shoes, cellphones, nail salons, rap music, movies with their favorite liberal activist "stars" and drugs) so be prepared!

10 posted on 12/24/2012 6:36:47 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Kaslin

We are on an express elvator to Hell


11 posted on 12/24/2012 6:43:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kaslin
The political results could be deeply painful for Democrats.

Nope. Anything bad will be blamed on Repubs, and the media will help force that opinion into the minds of all the sheeple. The Dems won't be blamed for a thing. Look at Welfare!

12 posted on 12/24/2012 6:46:51 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Huskrrrr

What if the doctors are Republicans?


13 posted on 12/24/2012 6:46:51 PM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: Huskrrrr

I’m old.

I hope global warming is a fact because they might have trouble finding an ice floe for my final ride into the sunset.

.


14 posted on 12/24/2012 6:53:28 PM PST by Mears
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To: IAGeezer912

“What if the doctors are Republicans?”

I trusting that they’ll be fair minded. I’ve found as a Republican I’m a lot more tolerant of my Democrat friends than they are with me. I’ve been “de-friended” on Facebook after I’ve posted a pro-Romney ad. I’ve never de-friended any of my Dem facebrook friends.


15 posted on 12/24/2012 7:07:17 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Mears
I guess doctors will start writing prescriptions for water....like they do in UK to prevent forced dehydration of patents.

Or delay giving a cast for this guy with a broken arm

Plumber with shattered arm left horrifically bent out of shape... - Daily Mail www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Plumber-shattered-arm-left-horrificall... Oct 8, 2009 – I have never heard of anyone else having a broken arm for ten months. .... try REALLY hard - and he's not eligible to the UK version of disability?

16 posted on 12/24/2012 7:11:13 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Kaslin

Boycotting the thing myself. Right down to refusing to pay any penalty, etc...Come and get me, cause I’m in good enough health as far as I’m concerned and I’d encourage anyone else to do the same.


17 posted on 12/24/2012 7:20:47 PM PST by equaviator
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18 posted on 12/24/2012 7:27:49 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: spokeshave

God,that’s awful.

Why couldn’t someone load him with booze and try to straighten it out before it set?

It would be less than perfect,and very painful,but that’s how they did it in days past.

.


19 posted on 12/24/2012 7:31:01 PM PST by Mears
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To: Kaslin

The bottom line is, when it comes time to cut “entitlements”, and you look at Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food stamps, etc., and whatever popular programs have been in place for years; do you cut them, or the most recent untested and unpopular one, Obamacare. Because we know the ever-expanding welfare state is unsustainable, and you first have to drop the program that makes the least number of beneficiaries unhappy.


20 posted on 12/24/2012 7:36:04 PM PST by omni-scientist
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To: Kaslin

we have to let this thing “go over the cliff” people must recieve what they voted for...want huge taxes, high medical care costs, inflation, ineffective gun control,gay marriage, ..just stick around...you voted for it, you will now get it...I’m all in favor of going over the “cliff”...people who want to collect social security should pay “payroll taxes”....PERIOD).


21 posted on 12/24/2012 7:53:37 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Kaslin

we have to let this thing “go over the cliff” people must recieve what they voted for...want huge taxes, high medical care costs, inflation, ineffective gun control,gay marriage, ..just stick around...you voted for it, you will now get it...I’m all in favor of going over the “cliff”...people who want to collect social security should pay “payroll taxes”....PERIOD).


22 posted on 12/24/2012 8:02:34 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Kaslin

I’ve noticed more doctors and dentists linking up with spas, offering coupons for massages and spa days after $XXX of cosmetic work.
I wonder if you end up with “free physical without Obamacare reporting after $XYZ beauty package purchase” or “free medical evaluation with purchase of expensive cosmetic thing”.


23 posted on 12/24/2012 8:10:07 PM PST by tbw2
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To: equaviator

I’m in your camp. I’m self employed and I am REFUSING to pay into this bullsh!t.

Come get me mother fu**ers!


24 posted on 12/24/2012 8:14:25 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: omni-scientist
I cancelled my health care insurance for next year.

I couldn't continue to pay the huge monthly premiums, and also attempt to access healthcare providers.
Most people without medical insurance get free medical care from the ER room.
If I show up at the ER, I am just a financial cash cow, not a “real” patient.

Stop the madness!

25 posted on 12/24/2012 8:24:32 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A friend of mine went to her chiropractor recently and had to fill out a questionaire about her health issues she sees them for. She tends to see them regularly and was surprised by the questionaire but filled it out. Afterwards, they told her that based on her answers, she’s allowed eight to ten sessions for the year. She’s flipping out because that’s much less than normal.

Her husband said she didn’t really indicate how bad she is. I countered that if she did, she’ll have a history that this lovely system will use against her later.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. We’re going to lose in every way with this one.


26 posted on 12/24/2012 8:27:17 PM PST by Ladysmith (Every time another lib loses its job, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Kaslin

The real anxiety will start when their doctor tells them he/she only takes cash/check/credit card and that he/she will provide them with a detailed coded bill which they can present to their insurance provider or government. Medicare/Medicaid patients will be limited to what the doctor considers to be his/her charity contribution limit. When that happens, Blue states will pass laws that require doctors to accept all patients. Doctors will quit or move to red states. And it will spiral down from there.


27 posted on 12/24/2012 8:28:45 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: Kaslin

We’ll be moving to single payer before the decade is out. Private insurance companies don’t want to deal with the bureaucratic and paperwork hassle and they will completely abandon the health care sector, turning it over to the government.


28 posted on 12/24/2012 9:02:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mears

No problem. Flaming boat for you - Viking style!


29 posted on 12/24/2012 9:10:42 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Kaslin
Re: “The political results of ObamaCare could be deeply painful for Democrats.”

No it won't.

The MSM will lie, conceal, or misrepresent ALL the bad news.

30 posted on 12/25/2012 12:46:36 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: BitWielder1
Heh ... no lawyer, no law suit.

No judge, nor determonation


Just ask the Birthers what good it can do .

31 posted on 12/25/2012 1:27:27 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: goldstategop
"Private insurance companies don’t want to deal with the bureaucratic and paperwork hassle and they will completely abandon the health care sector, turning it over to the government." Is that what happened in Massachusetts?
32 posted on 12/25/2012 1:53:52 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: goldstategop

“Private insurance companies don.t want to deal with the bureaucratic and paperwork hassle and they will completely abandon the health care sector, turning it over to the government.”

Is that what happened in Massachusetts?


33 posted on 12/25/2012 1:54:18 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Kaslin

And those that should have lost for passing off counterfeit MBS, and their equity backers, will be buying bonds/US Ts, secured on the shackled backs of U.S. citizens through IRS fines and escalating premiums.


34 posted on 12/25/2012 2:03:20 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: terycarl

...”we have to let this thing “go over the cliff” people must recieve what they voted for...want huge taxes, high medical care costs, inflation, ineffective gun control,gay marriage, ..just stick around...you voted for it, you will now get it...I’m all in favor of going over the “cliff”...people who want to collect social security should pay “payroll taxes”....PERIOD)”...

You are exactly correct..Until people feel consequences for their behavior, they will not change. Going over the cliff would be a good wakeup call, the consequences of which might give us a chance of keeping our country. Otherwise, the weak politicians will continue to take the path of least resistance and all their effort will center on re-election into the opulent life on the backs of 50% of the American people. It cannot last. Better to bite the bullet while there is a chance. I find myself wondering who will eventually rule in America considering the ignorance of the American press who is responsible for our current condition more than any other group. Is their lack of wisdom learned or deliberate? If deliberate, what do they hope to gain from the destruction of their country?


35 posted on 12/25/2012 2:18:12 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Huskrrrr

T-shirt idea:

Top: OBAMACARE
Middle: Print of Skull and Crossbones.
Bottome; Who’s Next?


36 posted on 12/25/2012 3:35:48 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Kaslin

Yesterday, while waiting for a prescription to be filled, a young father came to pick up his kid’s prescription. You could tell he was in no financial position to fork over any amount of money. It rang up at $148. He said, “That can’t be right. Last month it was $48. It’s gone up $100!?” The clerk said, “Things have gone up” very apologetically. You could tell it was a problem, especially during the Christmas season. Still, he paid it and wished her a Merry Christmas. Very sad.

Under my breath, I’m mumbling, “Obamacare. Obamacare.”

I can’t guess how the guy voted since we’re in solid Bible Belt country, and pretty much go anti-Obama. But I have a feeling that a lot of people who worship at the feet of Hussein will be replaying this scene a thousand times over every day from now on.


37 posted on 12/25/2012 4:10:16 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kaslin

Yesterday, while waiting for a prescription to be filled, a young father came to pick up his kid’s prescription. You could tell he was in no financial position to fork over any amount of money. It rang up at $148. He said, “That can’t be right. Last month it was $48. It’s gone up $100!?” The clerk said, “Things have gone up” very apologetically. You could tell it was a problem, especially during the Christmas season. Still, he paid it and wished her a Merry Christmas. Very sad.

Under my breath, I’m mumbling, “Obamacare. Obamacare.”

I can’t guess how the guy voted since we’re in solid Bible Belt country, and pretty much go anti-Obama. But I have a feeling that a lot of people who worship at the feet of Hussein will be replaying this scene a thousand times over every day from now on.


38 posted on 12/25/2012 4:10:31 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kaslin
The Washington Post noted that the nation's "underlying fiscal problem is that federal expenditures are slated to rise faster than economic growth,"

News flash!

39 posted on 12/25/2012 4:21:17 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: RetiredTexasVet
And it will spiral down from there.

Yup.

I have a new slogan:

Conservatives judge theory by reality.
Liberals judge reality by their theories.

This explains why liberals show contempt for facts that contradict their dogmas. It also explains why they hate God, who is Truth, or Reality Itself.

God help us.

40 posted on 12/25/2012 5:24:05 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Varsity Flight
Is that what happened in Massachusetts?

Not yet, but our per-person healthcare costs are the highest in the nation. OTOH, our healthcare is first class, at least for now. It breaks my heart, because I'm 50 years old, and have seen the steady improvement in healthcare over my lifetime, including new, cutting-edge treatments that have benefitted me personally.

I've also seen the rise of the emergency room as the front-line of treatment for non-payers, thanks to Ted Kennedy.

41 posted on 12/25/2012 5:28:37 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: sarasmom
True story:

Went to the ER with a fractured collarbone. As I have insurance, I get shunted to a cubicle where I am filling out page after page of crap. As I sit there a Hispanic man who has put a nail through his foot comes in. He speaks no English, has no social security number and no insurance. He goes right in to see the doctor while I sit there in pain getting asked more questions and filling out more paperwork.

42 posted on 12/25/2012 5:54:06 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Gabrial

Oh, I forgot to say my health insurance premiums are going up 62 percent on Jan 1 2013.


43 posted on 12/25/2012 5:59:07 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Kaslin
This March will mark three years since Obamacare became law, and it still has not had any serious effect on most Americans' lives.

I don't know about "most Americans", but my premiums have gone through the roof since Soetorocare was passed. They will go up another 15% in January, the smallest increase in 3 years. Am I supposed to thank King Barfy for that?

44 posted on 12/25/2012 6:07:51 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: IAGeezer912
What if the doctors are Republicans?

Most of us probably are, but that won't matter, either.

45 posted on 12/25/2012 10:19:14 AM PST by doc11355
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To: Kaslin; FrankR
Waivers are surgically tailored to facilitate class warfare and "restitution" for specific victims of past historical wrongs... nothing's being decided randomly, here.
46 posted on 12/25/2012 3:21:42 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: omni-scientist

They will cut Social Security and Medicare but leave Medicaid and food stamps. Can’t upset zero’s biggest voter block.


47 posted on 12/26/2012 5:14:34 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Kaslin; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!

48 posted on 12/26/2012 5:26:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


49 posted on 12/26/2012 5:29:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jeepers... thanks for the ping!


50 posted on 12/26/2012 8:27:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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