Skip to comments.Sen. Feinstein suggests national buyback of guns
Posted on 12/24/2012 8:40:00 PM PST by neverdem
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Which one was it that thought a barrel shroud was a shoulder thing that goes up?
I have written a major essay, title: “Dear Mr. Security Agent: a letter to law enforcement.”
Everything I’ve written over the past decade, including four novels, has been leading up to that essay. I’ll send it out after the new year.
The "shot heard 'round the world" was about the confiscation of guns
...Utopians, perfect name for these fascists
A national gun registration list in 2012-13 is not needed. Data-mining will reveal who owns what, unless you never used a credit card to purchase an ammo mag, rifle sight, case of ammo, etc.
They don’t need you to fill out a registration form saying you own an AR or AK. They will know in two seconds, by your credit card history.
Utopians always cause the worst genocides, because they are convinced they are justified in forcing their vision on an entire society.
Your blood should run cold when our masters tell us we must be disarmed in the name of “public safety.”
During the French Revolution’s “Great Terror,” it was the “Committee of Public Safety” that sent tens of thousands to the guillotine without even a pretense at a trial.
In Turkey, German, the USSR, China etc, gun control / confiscation was always sold as promoting “public safety.”
Ask the Armenians, Jews, Kulaks, “landlords” etc how it worked out, safety-wise.
Give you my bullets first.
But look at our Texas state board ..... and btw, this will not last very long. Demand will bring more mags and weapons to market. And look for the good-quality mags discussed by our fellow Texans in some detail, esp. the Izzy-manufactured ones. Not owning an AR type, I'm not participating in that discussion, but you might be interested.
True, but having a FOID Card doesn't necessarily mean the Card holder owns or 'possesses' a firearm. I've known a few folks who have or had FOID Cards but didn't own a firearm. They'd rent a gun when they went to a range, used a friends gun, or 'planned' to buy a gun but never did. But granted it does give the Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei) a place to start looking.
an aside: I have a BATF C&R License so I've been in the G's database for a long time anyway. So for me our STOO-PID™ IL FOID Card is kinda moot.
Center for American Progress = George Soros the Jew-Betrayer, the Jew-Finder, the Nazi Collaborator
Moving on our freedom, is he?
And why I never applied for a CHL or took a course, and why I don't hang around gun shops or ranges, where the ATF slugs lurk.
If I showed up at a range with something interesting like a Steyr precision rifle or even an SVD, much less a .50-cal. turnbolt, my license plate would be over at ATF before you can say "sic 'em, Dan-O!"
Credit cards? Funny, you can buy firearms-related goods with credit cards? Who knew? I always paid cash. Or cash. Or, on the other hand, cash. No checks, no Visa.
The lady is a complete idiot!
The words of Tench Coxe...
Congress have no power to disarm
the militia. Their swords,
and every other terrible implement of the soldier,
are the birth-right of an American
the unlimited power of the sword is not in
the hands of either the federal or state governments,
but, where I trust in God
it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
It should be an axiom of American government that we never take a foreign socialist nation as our example, even if we share a common language. As for our own nation, if these measures pass, it will be time to make a new one.
I live in Illinois but before I quit smoking about 5 years ago, bought all my cigarettes in Missouri, where the tax makes them much cheaper. I was warned by a store clerk, that I'd better pay cash as Visa, M.C. and AMEX were reporting Illinois residents to Illinois Revenue all tobacco and liquor purchases.
About 10 years ago, I received a form at tax time from Illinois, wanting me to voluntarily report all of my out of state purchases of those products, I filed it in the round file and never heard any more about it.
Big brother is definitely watching.
Feinstein also said that that former President Bill Clinton had volunteered, on a phone call, to help her get a new gun law passed.
[Clinton] was talking about the battle back in 1993 with the bill that, interestingly enough, was introduced and passed within the year [of] 1993 and went into effect in 1994, she said. And, of course, he was president and the White House came alive and was very very helpful in enabling the passage of that bill both in the senate and in the House. So, to have him part of the team again is really quote special for us.
DiFi was around then, and remembers what happened to Jack Brooks of Texas after Slick Willie pleaded and pleaded and armtwisted to get the Midnight Basketball and Gun-Ban Bill out of Brooks's committee .... just letting it sort of slide out w/o any fingerprints, to reduce the political risk.
Brooks's constituents pounded so much sand up his ass, it was still coming out his nose when he died.
As another Democrat once noticed long ago ...... when the Clintons need you, they're really there for you.
Ask Jack Brooks. And while you're at it, ask Bart Stupak and all the rest of the "moderate" Democrats who got used by Pelosi and Reid and The _Resident. Burned up like cigarettes, to get their bills through. Think about that, DiFi.
Back then, there were signs at the Mississippi river crossings, on the Illinois side that all Illinois residents were required to report out of state purchases of tobacco and liquor products, a sign that was hugely ignored. It’s no longer even there.
Gun Owners, Segregationists, and Jim Sleeper (More BS media versus history)
Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners' Names and Addresses "Hundreds of residents in New York's Westchester and Rockland counties...map posted by The Journal News" (Gannett)
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And did you also notice the almost complete absence of any optics?
You take all those precautions, then you announce to the world via the internet that you own weapons?
I guess that when they come calling, you can tell them you lost all your guns in a boating accident
Dems must be getting low on arms for the F&F program.
Don’t think for a minute that if you didn’t use a Credit Card to make a purchase you are off the hook. Did you ever go to a shooting range? Did you ever voice your opinion on FR? Did you ever email your friends about the dastardly deeds of our POTUS or that B-in-a-ditch Pelosi? Did you ever attend a Tea Party rally? Are you a veteran? Are you anti-abortion? They know who your are and they have a file on you.
Very good point.
Very good point. Maybe it’s time to get papers for yourself as Juan Rivera, or something similar.
Trivia question....Why do Australians pour oil on their lawns...
....to lubricate their guns.
That's why they are staffing up Homeland Security and buying lots of ammo.
I have NEVER used a credit card for any purchase that might concern the thugs in our White House or in Congress. I am a member of the NRA and of a local gun club, but that doesn't tell anything about number of caliber. BTW, I own a bolt action .22LR rifle that I will regretfully sell for $500 at gunpoint only. If they want anything else, they can start with my ammo. The discussion will not be friendly.
I just use the old gun safe for keeping personal records. It's fireproof, you know.
If you come for mine, better bring yours.
He could get a severe headache, thinking about that too much. It's really bad to get fixated like that.
Updated Sat Mar 3, 2012 12:15am AEDT Police say highway patrolman Senior Constable David Rixon was shot several times outside of a block of flats at Coledale in Tamworth about 8:00am (AEDT) on Friday.
Senior Constable Rixon, who had over 20 years of experience in the force, was taken to Tamworth Hospital for treatment but died soon after.
Another man who was shot is under police guard in hospital undergoing emergency treatment.
Two women taken hostage during an armed hold-up at a Gold Coast pub, in which a police officer was shot and critically injured, are walking detectives through the crime scene.
Plain clothes Senior Constable Damian Leeding, 35, remains in a critical condition in the intensive care unit at Gold Coast Hospital after being shot in the face with a sawn-off shotgun at the Pacific Pines Tavern late last night.
Crews is the first police officer in New South Wales killed while on duty since 2002
Australian Police continued to have a heavy presence in a western Sydney suburb today following a drug raid which resulted in the death of a colleague.
Officers from Middle Eastern Organised Crimes Squad were executing a search warrant when Constable William Crews, 26, was shot in his neck and head.
Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Sydney-police-officer-shot-dead/tabid/417/articleID/175231/Default.aspx#ixzz2G4px6jV2
7News : Sydney home sprayed by 'machine gun' fire
News video here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8vlFw9XIcY
There won't be a prosecutor left to prosecute the prosecutions.
It hasn't been fashionable, in the last 40 years, to dwell on the Revolutionary War's patriotic "cowboys", who took irregular violence to the Tories and British by stealth and opportunistic attacks.
It was thanks to them and the Militia that General Gage and other British commanders were largely confined to big towns or, on campaign, to their camps. It was worth their lives to take a pee in the woods.
“Voluntary buy-backs are fine in my book. I dont think people should be forced to own guns, and if they already own guns, they should have a way to get rid of those guns, “
Well let them sell them on their own. The feds have no business using my tax dollars to fund this. We should be cutting spending and yet these liberals want to spend even more.
It does put the size of the debt in perspective, doesn’t it?
“You dont think the govt can figure out your Internet Protocol address?”
I’m sure they can eventually find me but why make it so easy. I’m hoping to avoid the first wave of arrests.
I’m on the TOR, underneath layers of proxies. Let them come and find me.
“These people are exactly the reason for the Constitution. They are the very people our founders feared.”
“Dad, while you were taking pictures after we had lunch, Mr. Mann was telling me about what happened to him during the war.” Henry and his father were down in the workshop, where Henry was cleaning his guns. Walter Bowman looked up at his son.
“Hm.” Walter had never heard of Irwin Mann talking about that part of his past.
“He was telling me about how the police came and took him and his wife away, and he never saw her or any of his family again. He said that Hitler killed six million Jews like him, and would have killed all of them if the Americans hadn’t fought against the Germans and beat them.”
“That’s probably true.”
“He talked about how none of them had any way to fight back. He said first the police took away the guns that were like the ones the soldiers used, then they took away ALL their guns. He said he hoped I was always a good shot with as many kinds of guns as possible, in case the same thing ever happened here.” Henry looked very upset. “Dad, I love shooting, but I don’t want to kill anyone. Could something like what happened in Germany ever happen here?” he asked.
Walter Bowman, the history teacher, looked his son in the eye. Want to take this question for me, Uncle Cam? he said silently. Finally he answered.
“It probably won’t happen here,” he said, and mentally added the word again. “I certainly pray that it doesn’t. We have a nation with the kind of freedoms that people in most other countries can only dream of. But to answer your question accurately, yes, it could happen here.” And it killed your uncle.
“There are always men who want more and more power, and history has shown us that these kind of men will take all they can from the people they control. Sometimes they are finally stopped when the people fight back. Sometimes the people don’t fight back, and they slowly lose their freedoms until it’s too late.
(Unintended Consequences, by John Ross, page 151)
Out here in the country,the thugs won’t hear the shot that killed them.
Never going to happen. Cold, dead fingers.......
You first, Senator.
On second thought, I’m sticking with “...the cost of it would double, at least, the national debt.”
Remember, this is a federal government program we’re talking about here. When you factor in the cost of pork, graft, corruption and who knows how many new government agencies with all the trappings to carry out the mandate, your $50,000 per gun sounds a tad on the conservative side as an estimate.
At any rate, DiFi’s just flapping her gums. Her legislation would never pass, even in the Senate but it’s been an amusing topic of discussion.
could be compulsory
Well, good luck with that.”””
IF Di Fi is looking for the tipping point to start another civil war, she might just have found the reason that could do that.
If individual states want to do this, let them waste their
if they already own guns, they should have a way to get rid of those guns, since we dont want them to throw them out “””
Almost any decent gun shop will BUY any guns you wish to remove.
LOL. 250 million guns in America and counting. How many centuries would it take to buy back all the guns? And the bad guys won’t be selling their’s. In fact, some people will be selling their guns to the highest bidder, i.e., the bad guys.
What other than a Federal program would it take to put an armed police officer in every school?
The NRA is no friend to liberty. Given Sandy Hook, expect to see a revival of their support for the Our Lady of Peace Act. They are also on record having supported limiting magazine sizes (NRA Director says five rounds is enough).
"The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871." NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth, NRA's American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22
As we saw with FIST, the government willfully violates the law to use computerized background checks as equivalent to gun registration. The NRA continues to support background checks. As far as I am concerned, a background check is equivalent to national registration. So is the membership list. So is posting on this thread. Take your head out of your butt and get real.
Only if they give me enough to buy a newer model.