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Washington D.C. police investigating whether NBC moderator [David Gregory] violated law
CNN ^ | December 25, 2012 | Larry Lazo

Posted on 12/25/2012 1:40:55 PM PST by grundle

Washington Metropolitan Police Department is investigating whether NBC’s David Gregory violated D.C. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30 round magazine as part of an interview during Sunday’s “Meet the Press.”

“So here’s a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. Now isn’t it possible that if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?” show moderator Gregory asked Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.

Possessing a large capacity ammunition device, such as a magazine, is illegal in the District of Columbia if the device holds more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The code also specifies the large devices are illegal regardless of whether or not they're attached to a firearm. Gregory showed the magazine Sunday without a firearm attached.

NBC’s studios, from which “Meet the Press” is broadcast, are located within city limits. The network did not respond to CNN’s requests for comment.

In the wake of the school shooting in Newtown, gun control advocates have been pushing for a limit on high capacity magazines. Such a restriction is one of the items President Barack Obama mentioned last week when he announced an administration effort to curb violence.

“I don’t believe that’s going to make one difference,” LaPierre told Gregory during the show.

Several conservative commentators first raised the issue of whether Gregory had broken D.C. law by using the magazine.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: District of Columbia
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1 posted on 12/25/2012 1:41:03 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
Let me reiterate (from one of your many ALMOST identicle posts):

Why would conservatives petition for enforcement of an unconstitutional law?

2 posted on 12/25/2012 1:43:33 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Point out his hypocrisy all you want but if we push for enforcement of an unconstitutional law it diminishes our position.


3 posted on 12/25/2012 1:48:37 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: grundle
Maybe he was on the air drunk.. again. I remember it. IIRC he was in Iraq and was supposed to do a news report.

David Gregory drunk calling in to the Imus morning program Lots of other accounts of this.

4 posted on 12/25/2012 1:56:35 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: grundle

5 posted on 12/25/2012 1:56:49 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: grundle

More standard fare of breaking the law to fabricate the news. Remember it was NBC which rigged the gas tanks of GM trucks to explode assure the pictures would comport with their fake news.


6 posted on 12/25/2012 1:58:50 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: timestax

bttt


7 posted on 12/25/2012 2:01:35 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: grundle

Interesting that this story is from CNN and one of their own (Don Lemon) admits to illegally purchasing a gun in Colorado.


8 posted on 12/25/2012 2:03:49 PM PST by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: PDGearhead

9 posted on 12/25/2012 2:04:45 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: gorush
if we push for enforcement of an unconstitutional law it diminishes our position.

All's fair in the war against Marxists, including shilling for the left as ringers.

10 posted on 12/25/2012 2:06:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Shilling isn’t my idea of war. Shilling is just kicking the war can down the road. Let’s do it!...but we aren’t/won’t. The marxists have won, we just don’t know it yet.


11 posted on 12/25/2012 2:09:30 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Navy Patriot

12 posted on 12/25/2012 2:09:30 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: gorush

You may be right (This is an Alinsky tactic) but it will be interesting seeing a newsreader squirm and have to take our side once.


13 posted on 12/25/2012 2:09:32 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: grundle; All

David Gregory Violated DC Gun Laws After Being Denied By DC Police?

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on “Meet the Press.” MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service – Metropolitan Police Department”

http://thepatriotperspective.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/david-gregory-violated-dc-gun-laws-after-being-denied-by-dc-police/


14 posted on 12/25/2012 2:09:35 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: grundle

He’ll get the same harsh punishment Sen.Trotter (D-IL) received for his recent gun violations and that Jon Corzine got for stealing millions from his investors.


15 posted on 12/25/2012 2:11:55 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: grundle

YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!

16 posted on 12/25/2012 2:17:16 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: timestax

17 posted on 12/25/2012 2:22:33 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: grundle

Now he’s a felon.

hahaha

Next he’ll complain about the harsh gun laws. lol.


18 posted on 12/25/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: timestax

19 posted on 12/25/2012 2:38:08 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: gorush
Shilling isn’t my idea of war.

Well shilling is a tactic not a war, but it is shilling as a ringer that I proposed, also a tactic.

In this case it will create a doubly negative perception of the left in the minds of the individuals that are exposed to the information, and that can be considerable, if we do it well.

Shilling is just kicking the war can down the road.

No, it's real time in the now.

The Marxists have won, we just don’t know it yet.

I understand why you have come to that conclusion (and it may be accurate), but, long term, the Marxists winning assures their utter and complete defeat.

All Marxist systems that have become completely controlled by Marxists, degenerate into total economic collapse and barbarism.

The only ones to emerge, have given up economic Marxism and the Marxist ruling elite have become tyrannical oligarchs, technically nearly the opposite of Marxism. Marxism is completely abandoned in reality, but may not be abandoned in propaganda.

20 posted on 12/25/2012 2:41:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: grundle

“...if we replaced them and said well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage... “

If it takes 10 minutes for the police to arrive, limiting a maniac to 5 round magazines will not make much of a difference. And that is assuming that maniacs will obey the new laws.

IIRC, the USMC Known Distance rifle qualification course required us to fire 10 rounds rapid fire from 200 yards. From a standing position we dropped to sitting, fired 5 rounds, changed magazines and fired another 5 rounds.

We did the same at 300 yards, but it was from standing to Prone, 5 rounds, change magazine, 5 more rounds.

60 second time limit.

Many of us managed 10 rounds in a 12 inch bull on both rapid fires.

Of course, we had the 10 rounds slow fire, Standing position from 200 yards, then slow fire at 300, 5 Kneeling, 5 Sitting. We finished with 10 round Prone slow fire at 500 yards.

All with iron sights.


21 posted on 12/25/2012 2:47:15 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: gorush

If I have to follow the law, and Joe Blow down the street does or risk imprisonment, then guess what, so does a journalist!


22 posted on 12/25/2012 2:50:56 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: grundle

How did Gregory even obtain a 30 round clip. Who gave or sold him this illegal clip? Was money from the studio involved in the purchase. Think RICO.


23 posted on 12/25/2012 2:51:10 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Navy Patriot

We’re in agreement...and my main point stands, the Marxists have won even if it sentences them to their ultimate defeat. At that point, we’ll both be defeated. The liberty that our country enjoyed was only made possible by an undeveloped and relatively unclaimed property. That condition no longer exists on this planet. Like Yuri Bezmanov once said “There is no where left to go.”


24 posted on 12/25/2012 2:56:53 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: grundle

save for later


25 posted on 12/25/2012 2:58:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: grundle

David Gregory’s use of a 30 round AR-15 magazine as a prop on Meet the Press to support their national banning was clearly in pre-meditated violation of the law banning their possession in the District of Columbia where his show originated.

Gregory’s act exactly proves what opponents of such restrictions have been saying: such a ban will not stop a person hell-bent on breaking the law. If Gregory is not prosecuted it also proves other commonly held beliefs about liberal government and liberal media.

Advocates of banning magazines above a certain capacity ask who needs them. Putting aside that we tread on dangerous ground when we put any Constitutional right to a test of need (for example, who really needs to trample on the American flag), the burden of proof is that the cost of such a ban will be justified by improving public safety. In an era of trillion dollar federal deficits, this raises a question of best use of finite government resources. If history is any guide, few people who already own any of the estimated 100 million such magazines in private hands can be expected to turn them in. Aren’t we better off allocating our money to improve school safety rather than fund a war on newly-outlawed firearm accessories?

I would remind people that while we are now having a “national conversation” on firearms regulations, we have yet to have a similar conversation about what changes we must make to the treatment of citizens with mental health issues, not to mention how we are going to fund any changes that we decide to make.

If we get down the road a few months on these topics and the loudest voices on the left still give the highest priority to funding the waging of a new war on firearms accessories, above funding improvements in mental health or school safety, we will know who the real ‘gun nuts’ are. And they won’t be the people with NRA bumper stickers.


26 posted on 12/25/2012 3:01:25 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: grundle

This clown either believes in enforcing gun laws or he doesn’t. Let’s see which.


27 posted on 12/25/2012 3:11:11 PM PST by DPMD
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To: gorush
...my main point stands, the Marxists have won even if it sentences them to their ultimate defeat.

As I said, I can find no evidence to dispute that conclusion.

I have not yet seen a society with enough wisdom in the people, to reverse the course of Socialism, once allowed.

“There is no where left to go.”

At present, that appears to be the case, however, Russia is traveling back now. It is uncertain how much of an economy Russia will be able to produce or support.

28 posted on 12/25/2012 3:33:32 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: theBuckwheat
#26, Excellent discussion.
29 posted on 12/25/2012 3:36:20 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Flick Lives

30 posted on 12/25/2012 3:58:37 PM PST by ASA Vet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Flick Lives

RICO — I love it!!

By the way, there is talk that maybe he used a ‘prop’ or not a real magazine.

Well, you sell a baggie of oregano as pot, you are busted for pot.

You use a toy or bb or airsoft gun, cops shoot you dead (or you can get prosecuted if they miss with their 30-rnds).

I was terrorized by the display, on SUNDAY morning by a respected journalist on a SAFE news broadcast, of the 30-rd magazine, which has me still hiding under by bed. If those large capacity magazines can infiltrate NBC, they can come get me too. Or add Domestic Terrorism to Gregory’s charges.


31 posted on 12/25/2012 4:11:01 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I'm afraid!)
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To: grundle
(If)you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?

If there's not another gun there to stop him, he has enough time to use any size magazine or even a single shot weapon to commit all the carnage he wants.

32 posted on 12/25/2012 4:13:07 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: grundle
So, I don't know what is funnier. That he broke the law, or that he had no clue that states already HAD the law he was saying could help, and it didn't help where the law existed.

Or maybe this is the real joke: "isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?"

So, our solution to a mass murder is to only have half the parents suffer the tragedy of losing their children? Killing 20 kids is bad, but killing 10 would be OK?

Or, as I said in my column for tomorrow -- is our goal just to make it take a little longer to kill people? It is rare that a shooting ends because the killer is confronted while he is still actively shooting. There is no indication that the shooter in Newtown ran out of time. But we know he had two guns he didn't even use, so even if they had been limited to 10 bullets each, that was 20 more people he could have killed at a moment's notice, even without any extra rifle magazines.

Studying the history of mass shootings, the number one way a killer has been stopped (as opposed to running out of victims, or deciding to end the massacre on their own) has been when they use high-capacity magazines and they get jammed. You might say that the less-capable high-capacity magazines actually save lives.

33 posted on 12/25/2012 4:38:12 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BwanaNdege

I remember standing at the 500 yard line thinking “man that
is a loooong way away”.


34 posted on 12/25/2012 4:58:24 PM PST by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: gorush
Why would conservatives petition for enforcement of an unconstitutional law?

So someone could have standing to see it overturned.
Of course in this case, it's about seeing a lib hoisted on his own petard. Gregory would probably argue he's above the law.

35 posted on 12/25/2012 5:05:58 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“So, our solution to a mass murder is to only have half the parents suffer the tragedy of losing their children? Killing 20 kids is bad, but killing 10 would be OK? “

Along these same lines, one commenter said If schools were protected by armed persons, then the shooters would go to other places, like malls.

So - we leave kids unprotected to save the malls????

Like you say, this is funny!


36 posted on 12/25/2012 5:24:47 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I'm afraid!)
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To: grundle

So. Much. Irony. I don’t even know which is more ironic. Is it the fact that Gregory is ignorant that the very law he is arguing for is already in effect in the D.C. area where his show is filmed? Or is it the fact that Gregory may be in trouble by the very same law that he is advocating for?


37 posted on 12/25/2012 5:42:59 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: DPMD

All he has to do is say he had a replica.


38 posted on 12/25/2012 5:51:51 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DPMD

This is what I mean:

“It’s not known whether the magazine Gregory had in his hand was authentic or a prop. D.C. police spokeswoman Gwen Crump told CNN the department is investigating the matter and would have no further comment at this time.”


39 posted on 12/25/2012 5:53:52 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Scrambler Bob
I was terrorized by the display, on SUNDAY morning by a respected journalist on a SAFE news broadcast, of the 30-rd magazine, which has me still hiding under by bed. If those large capacity magazines can infiltrate NBC, they can come get me too.

Same here. Days later I still can't sleep. This whole episode has caused me untold emotional distress! I think the only way to calm my jangled nerves might be to contact my attorney.

40 posted on 12/25/2012 5:58:17 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: grundle

It doesn’t matter what the law is, nothing will come of it. Gregory will do the two step and the government will dance too and just like all the other lawbreaking done by the Dems , in time it will be forgotten like Algore’s e-mails


41 posted on 12/25/2012 6:02:30 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: gorush

Conservatives wouldn’t sign the petition. But just the fact that the petition exists is hilarious.


42 posted on 12/25/2012 6:21:15 PM PST by grundle
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To: South Dakota

This is what the power of politics is all about; it’s the ability to protect your friends, and punish your enemies.

Until the right learns to inflict grief on liberal activists, simply for opposing its core principles, the slide into tyrany will continue unabated.

The left gave up rational debate a long time ago. It does not serve their interests. When they engage in it today, it is as a tactic to get their opposition to restrain itself...not as a principle of civilized conflict resolution.


43 posted on 12/25/2012 6:43:00 PM PST by papertyger
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To: doublecansiter

Did I have the rounds/positions/distances correct?

It has been 45 years, so the memory is a bit foggy.

Pre-qual day I had good day, a 241. I was hoping for qual day to be bad weather so I’d have the 241 for the record. On qual day we had snow!

Parris Island, SOUTH CAROLINA! SNOW!?

Had to blow snow out of the rear sight before firing. And they counted our qual day scores.

Ugh-—213

I did like firing the M-14, though.


44 posted on 12/25/2012 7:53:29 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: grundle
The US Constitution would like to remind us that the law is for EVERYONE

Not just stupid hicks in flyover country.

Eh Mr Reporter? :)
45 posted on 12/25/2012 8:23:41 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: gorush

Maybe because the jerk is a global communist and be better in jail than on television? He helped make the laws he broke.


46 posted on 12/25/2012 8:51:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: tbpiper

Can not be repeated enough.


47 posted on 12/25/2012 10:36:41 PM PST by Bi-ped Carbon Unit (Paid, non-lawyer spokesperson)
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To: grundle

I would imagine regular training and drilling would completely nullify any BS law regarding magazine size.


48 posted on 12/26/2012 1:27:52 AM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: Scrambler Bob
the way, there is talk that maybe he used a ‘prop’ or not a real magazine.

It's a lot easier to get a real magazine, than it is a prop. I didn't even know there were "prop" AR magazines you could buy.

49 posted on 12/26/2012 8:27:15 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Scrambler Bob
the way, there is talk that maybe he used a ‘prop’ or not a real magazine.

It's a lot easier to get a real magazine, than it is a prop. I didn't even know there were "prop" AR magazines you could buy.

50 posted on 12/26/2012 8:27:28 AM PST by Fido969
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