Skip to comments.NRA wrong about armed guards in schools
Posted on 12/26/2012 4:32:36 AM PST by Perseverando
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NRA leader Wayne LaPierre says that the key to prevention of future school massacres like the one in Newtown, Conn., is for the government to post armed guards in every school in America.
Let me disagree with my good friend and fellow Second Amendment supporter.
In fact, I believe that is exactly the wrong prescription.
America doesnt need more police.
America doesnt need a civilian national security force, as Barack Obama has suggested.
And America certainly doesnt need more firearms in the hands of the government local, state or federal.
What America needs to avert future Sandy Hook Elementary School disasters is the following:
Prayer back in schools.
The Ten Commandments back in schools. The Bible back in schools. Armed and trained teachers and administrators in schools not armed police and security guards. More armed and trained private citizens throughout the country. More parents making the choice to educate their children at home or in private, preferably religious, non-government institutions as opposed to statist, secular humanist indoctrination centers. Most of all what America needs is a genuine return to God in which, at the very least, those who profess belief in Him follow the prescription of 2 Chronicles 7:14: If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
We dont want America to become a police state.
And, frankly, Im a little surprised and disappointed that the NRA is suggesting something that sounds like a move in that direction.
Yes, weve got to get away from this idiotic notion of making schools
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EXACTLY! We The People are to be armed - not only a select group.
I wonder how many of those little kids and teachers in Newtown would have been saved by prayers and the 10 commandments?
There is one commandment which, for sure, would have cut down the number killed, and that is: “Thou shalt be armed with a gun to protect yourself and others!”
Another example of why I joined the GOA in late 2007 and have only maintained headcount with the NRA ever since. If they make the wrong move in the next 3 months before my NRA membership comes due, I won’t even keep that anymore.
I agree. After thinking about it for a while, I wouldn’t want another govt. entity involved in schools security in the form of armed police or even a private security force. More tax $$$ going to waste and you just know there would still be an incident even with an armed guard in a school where something would break out on the other side of the school, just like in Columbine (where there was an armed guard). The solution of trained and armed staff at schools is the best deterrent. Never knowing who is armed is the best deterrent to any threats.
Exactly. Removed the "Gun-Free Zone" signs, and then implement a "don't ask, don't tell" policy of concealed carry. We, the people, left to our own devices, can solve this problem quickly.
We have this delusion that such things can be stopped.
Let’s assume we have airtight security and armed guards, and no shooter gets into a school ever again.
What’s to stop a guy from shooting his way onto a school bus at a stop? 40+ kids trapped.
Did nobody else see The Matrix? How do you stop someone from shooting his way through a security point?
I think both right and left treat guns as some kind of magic wand.
I agree with you. We don’t even know if the Lanzas were practicing any religion at all. Haven’t heard about. School children praying won’t stop a killer.
That said, we do need to get God back into society.
>> We The People are to be armed - not only a select group.
Well, let’s see - I’m retired. I’m a firearms instructor (both LE and civilian). Do you think I’d teach every school teacher and administrator for free? That I’d go to the local schools and sit there (armed) a couple afternoons a week? For no pay? In a New York minute.
Stupid and simplistic. The country is WAY past the point where restoring prayer in schools will solve any problem. Too late. The country is already halfway towards atheistic materialism. Reversing that trend will take a lot more than prayer in the schools.
Furthermore, prayer in the schools without prayer in the home will do absolutely no good.
Does anybody have any suggestions as to how to reverse the mad rush towards individualistic materialistic self-centered narcissism that this country is in?
Why would I trust a teacher with a gun anymore than a security guard? Teachers molest students, many are incompetent and I would fear they would be careless with access to any weapons they might have.
Arming the school staff has its own problems.
You have a point. Although I support people being armed and have no problem with the 10 Commandments in schools, as noted libertarian Robert J. Ringer put it, “bad things happen.” It is much like terrorism, their side wins when one gets through, the only way our side winds is if we prevent bad things happening 100% of the time. The latter is unachievable, as fallible beings we are. La Pierre’s idea is generally a good one too, but I prefer idea with less government. Even in places where firearms are banned, people will resort to other means.
Because you are a PATRIOT! And thank you!
Excellent idea. And I’d expand that edict to ban gun control advocates from having armed security at their homes or work places. It’s really easy to tell the peons to do without weapons while hiding behind an armed guard yourself.
Maybe we should start praying that banks don’t get robbed and get rid of the armed guards and safes. Sweet and loving idea, talk about good intentions that would backfire and kill. Will we never learn? “Feel Good” tatics are not strategies, they are only hope...and we know the kind of change you get if hope is your strategy.
Not a big WND or Farah fan here but even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes — Farah’s right on point about limiting government programs and eliminating the criminal empowerment zones. Another poster’s comment about Obama’s National Civilian Security Force makes me think the NRA’s proposal falls into that trap quite neatly.
One way is just to make schools a hard target. Restrict entry into the actual parts of the schools that house classrooms. They can use a key card system that only allows entry to students and school officials.
A camera system can allow educators to at least scope out someone attempting entry. They can also use panic buttons that can lock down all doors and call the police.
There are all sorts of methods that does not include weapons.
Farah makes some good points
In our area we have armed School Resource Officers....and they tend to be more of a problem than a help. Even with the SRO in our schools in FL....we still have gang problems, drugs, and violence. And, many schools w SROs also have their own unarmed security details
Also, having a uniformed officer in a school just means that a potential shooter avoids where the armed officer is at...and the shooter can “pattern” the SROs locations on a daily basis
With armed regular citizens...a shooter cannot be sure who, or where, is armed.
I’m in favor of keeping civilians armed. I’m also in favor of armed security in schools.