Skip to comments.Liberals Panic As They Lose the Gun Narrative
Posted on 12/26/2012 5:47:25 AM PST by Kaslin
When you argue for a living, you can tell how an argument is going for you. The evidence and my gut both tell me that the liberals have lost control of the gun control narrative.
Not for lack of trying it was almost as if they were poised to leap into action across the political, media and cultural spectrum the second the next semi-human creep shot up another gun free zone. This was their big opening to shift the debate and now its closing. Theyve lost, and they are going nuts.
The evidence is all around that this is not going to be the moment where America begins a slide into disarmed submission through an endless series of ever-harsher reasonable restrictions on our fundamental rights. You just have to look past the shrieking media harpies to see whats really happening.
Lets start with the most obvious omen that this tsunami has peaked. President Obama thrilled his base by grandstanding at the memorial, and then promptly washed his hands of it by handing it over to a blue ribbon commission. Making Joe Biden its chairman was like staking a vampire through the heart, then hosing him down with holy water before burying his body beneath the Gilroy Garlic Festival.
Why does Obama want this gun thing buried? While intensely popular with metrosexual pundits, coastal liberals, and cultural bigots slobbering at the opportunity to stick it to those banjo strummin, God-believers out in the hinterlands, gun control remains poison to Red State Democrats.
Joe Manchin of West Virginia couldnt resist some sanctimonious posturing, but clearly he heard enough from his constituents to sprint-back his heresy with a WaPo op-ed explaining how awesome the NRA is and how groovy gun owners are. He will never take sides against the family again.
We didnt see the Red State Democrats up for re-election in two years out dumping on their constituents to please the media. Call it the Fredo Effect, and 2014 is the rowboat. We wont hear from the likes of Senators Landrieu, Pryor and Begich until they vote No.
Sure, Senator Feinstein will submit her gun ban wish list to Harry Reid, who will look at it sagely, nod politely, and let it die. Hes more Tom Hagen than Fredo. He is going to retain the NRA A rating his website proudly showcases regardless of what Chuck Schumer thinks. What gets you hosannas in Manhattan gets you unemployed in Searchlight.
So, the politicians actions have spoken louder than their words, but what of the media? We lawyers always say that when your case is strong, pound on the law and the evidence, and when your case is weak, pound on the table. The furniture is splintering in Liberalland.
Their post-Newtown strategy was always to prevent an effective response from the pro-gun freedom side by both rapid action and by demonization. But the holidays and the kabuki theater that is the fiscal cliff drama meant that legislative action, their Holy Grail, would have to wait. That gave people time to think and the gun freedom side the time to react.
Demonizing those who support gun freedom was always intended as a weapon to silence them. It was also critical that we, law-abiding gun owners, become the Other. By dehumanizing us and painting us as evil, it is that much easier to strip us of our rights.
But gun freedom advocates fought back. Using the mainstream media, conservative media and especially social media we need to understand its huge significance here gun freedom advocates countered liberals bogus facts. Media reports about automatic weapons were corrected, clownish statements about high caliber magazines and large capacity round were mocked. The struggle raged over millions of Facebook posts. The average citizen saw gun banners ask When will America control access to weapons? and then saw several experts among his or her friends post about the significant hurdles one needs to get over to get a gun. Truth bypassed the mainstream media and became a weapon for the side of fundamental rights.
The banners overplayed their hand, losing credibility with every distortion, evasion and smear. The cries of Blood is on your hands! failed to resonate reasonable Americans just did not blame the actions of a single sociopath on millions of their fellow neighbors. And it did not help when third-string celebrities and wizened literary has-beens took to hoping gun rights advocates would be shot for daring to oppose disarmament.
The gun banners also counted on a narrative that portrayed a respect for the Second Amendment. They sought only reasonable restrictions why, no one wants to ban or confiscate your guns! The problem was one of memo distribution not everybody got that memo. Mayor Bloomberg was putting out that what few guns he might graciously deign to leave in the hands of the unworthy would be starved of bullets, while Governor Cuomo acknowledged that confiscation was one of the options.
Oops. Gun control is a process that is designed and intended to lead to a total gun ban, and the banners are counting on people not realizing it.
Their credibility and motives already in question, the gun banners became vulnerable to a shift in the paradigm from depriving law-abiding citizens of effective defensive weapons to the idea of protecting kids with armed personnel in schools.
Suddenly, the gun banners had to argue two ridiculous positions. The first was that allowing trained educators or police having weapons in schools is a danger. The problem is that people generally like and trust teachers and cops. The second position was even worse, that armed personnel or police are somehow utterly useless against untrained, amateur creeps who seek to confront six-year olds. All over America, millions of parents noted how none of the wealthy gun banners were disbanding their personal security teams and thought, You know, I think Id like having a cop around my kid too.
Frustration at the fact that their argument had not been unquestioningly accepted morphed into faux moral outrage that their opponents had dared offer any alternative proposal at all. E.J. Dionne of the WaPo was a prime example. He had to grope for words to describe the National Rifle Associations proposal, yet he managed to find some: Absurd, unbelievable, tragic, obscene, as well as insane.
Note that Dionnes righteous fury does not apply to the armed guards at the Posts front door, surrounding President Obama, or to anywhere else other than in the vicinity of regular peoples children.
Particularly amusing are the liberals who transform into green eyeshades misers with the public purse when it comes to cops in schools. The folks who cant spend enough dough on fudge-smeared, patriarchy-challenging performance artists suddenly become thrifty Scotsmen when it comes to doling out a few shillings to put a cop on campus.
They have been unable to articulate any coherent argument opposing putting cops in schools because there is no coherent argument against putting cops in schools. But more than anything, the mommies at the affluent Los Angeles-area school my kids attend have convinced me that the narrative has escaped the gun grabbers.
Knowing our reputations as proud conservatives we represent diversity for our liberal friends a pal of my wife remarked, out of the blue, that I think my husband and I need to buy guns. Whoa.
And as third graders sang holiday songs at their pageant while I surveyed the packed, vulnerable room, I blurted out to another mommy that I wished I could legally carry a weapon to protect those kids. And she told me that she wished that I could too. Whoa.
Gun banners, you lost the President, the senators, the social media, and now youve lost liberal LA mommies. Youve lost everything. Again.
Liberals have lost nothing. Ask any liberal and they’ll tell you. The Kenyan will rid us of the “evil of guns” via EO with a cooperative congress and senate so let’s just try and be real about this!
I don’t think they have lost the narrative at all.
I agree. They are exploiting the recent tragedy to the maximum.
Maybe in DC with a Republican House.... not around her in the deep blue states...NY which, believe it or not, is not bad when it comes to long guns, is ripe now for new regulations up to and including confiscation.
all politics is local.
Criminals/socialists/totalitarians panic when they loose the gun battle.
Judge the “public mood” expressed by these two opposing scenarios:
Scenario 1: The public believes the government is getting ready to confiscate firearms, so sales of firearms plummets. No one wants to buy something that is going to get confiscated anyway.
Scenario 2 (reality): The public believes the government is getting ready to confiscate firearms, and sales of firearms goes to astronomical highs. Why buy something that is going to be confiscated?
Unless, of course, the “public mood” is that of... to put it mildly... “resistance”.
The Left accomplished one thing: an all-time record sale of guns, particularly “assault weapons.” There is a waiting list a mile long at most gun dealers of sales that are pending because of a lack of supply.
The gun dealers of America thank you, you panty-wetting dim wits.
Let them try... quitter... and stay out of the way of Patriots defending Freedom!
Agree. And if they ever do lose the narrative, why they’ll just order up another mass killing or two.
Meant to say also:
It’s like keeping a woodstove hot and burning: Throw in another log as the last one turns to coals.
When NRA membership rises 8000 a day in a recession when money is tight, gun shows packed, sales soaring, elected officials take notice. Smartest thing NRA did was expand gun interest to women. More women are arming and owning guns. It is no longer men vs women, it is about security from criminals and madmen vs relying on cops to save you. In a tough economy, people are more fearful. It is ironic, the same factor, fear that drove people to vote for Obama is the same factor that will prevent gun control.
What really, really pains me about your comment is that it is utterly believable and probable .... and that I would even think this to be true is almost unbelievable, except it isn't. We are living in strange, evil and desperate times, becoming more so every day.
Most likely scenario is a reinstatement of the assault weapon ban, outlaw magazines > 10, and close the so-called “gun show” loophole. They will not confiscate guns at the national level.
Real? Since when did the 2A become a fantasy? I suppose the entire Bill of Rights is a fairy tale too.
Remember, liberals are cynical.
Goal No. 1: Use ‘assault weapons’ as a scare tactic/wedge issue in races where it helps them.
Goal No. 2: Real gun control.
Right now they are concentrating on No. 1...and laying the groundwork for the long game, for goal no. 2.
Shelves empty of guns and ammo and 2 hour wait lists at gun ranges pretty much tell the tale...
Um, it hardly gets bluer than Obama's home state, and even here in Illinois, almost EVERYone I talk to, liberal or otherwise, has come over to the "dark side" of supporting gun rights as a way to protect the children. I totally stumped the most liberal person I work with by a simple challenge, how do you define an assault weapon? These people, at the infantry level, cannot handle even the simplest engagements. Even my own lib extended family, who would normally try to shut me up on any politically controversial topic at a holiday gathering, sat silent or otherwise supportive as I extolled the virtues of gun ownership and the ridiculousness and impossibility of citizen disarmament. Just like the author of this article, I was floored. Pleased, but floored. I had expected an all out "bad family argument." It didn't happen. Amazing.
So, IMHO, if anything, the left is ripe to lose this argument big-time. Why? Because the logic of self-defense is so basic and so natural that even a deeply programmed liberal cannot escape the power of the argument: we have a right and a duty to protect our kids, and weaponizing their caretakers is still the best, simplest way to do this in a world where craziness happens. Period. We win. They lose. Deal with it.
“Let them try... quitter...”
...You are incorrect. I’m no quitter. I am ashamed of myself however for sounding like one.
I’m not sure “stand-down” articles like this are believable. It would be like this administration to force its way toward gun control, even if everything in the article were true. The enemy is not to be trusted to be predictable.
The RNC should be out there beating liberal politicians over the head with this instead of trying to find a middle ground, but the RNC is run by RINOs.
I hope so. Difficult for me to gauge. Where I live gun ownership is a given. It is the blue Northeast states that concern me.
It is not what Obama and his crowd of fawning demons do in public view that bothers me, it is what he does behind the scenes that is so damaging. I would not break into the “home run trot” just yet. They will keep trying.
I am ashamed for thinking that your were one. I apologize to you my friend.
Belated Merry Christmas.
And if they ever do lose the narrative, why theyll just order up another mass killing or two.
What really, really pains me about your comment is that it is utterly believable and probable .... and that I would even think this to be true is almost unbelievable, except it isn’t.
I too think that this is probable. It might seem paranoid to think that individuals are being watched and primed to commit an atrocity when one is needed to advance an agenda. But for some reason it happens over and over right on schedule when needed. And then the Politicians “have to act quickly” because the media has pushed the populace’s “hot button”.
But if they wait too long to act then reason and the real facts come out to squash their agenda. At that point it’s time to have another atrocity to show that this is not a fluke. All we have to do is look at recent history over the last fifty years to see the pattern.
What’s changed though is that media no longer fully controls the means of distributing information. The cracks in the “Gate keepers Dam of News worthiness” are about to fail spectacularly.
Most people, especially gov’t/elite worshipping leftists, are appalled at the notion that those in power would seek even more power through mass murder.
But they will, and historically, it’s proven that it is ENTIRELY likely that they will.
Without guns, how will you shoot back?
I got nothin to lose anyways.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- B. Franklin
My sister works with the ‘Safe Neighborhoods Project’, a get guns off the streets program and she agrees with the cops in schools idea and has talked about getting a gun for protection because of some of the bad ‘hoods’ she goes into.
I think the Left lost this argument years ago. I know at least five women who have purchased personal protection guns in the last couple of years because of what they see as a dangerous devolution of society. I think all these women have taken the ‘when seconds count the police are only minutes away’ mantra to heart.
I notice they haven't talked too much about the murders of the firefighters in Webster NY. I also notice that BamBam didn't interrupt his Hawaiian vacation extravaganza (all on our dime) to visit with the families of the victims of that massacre. A few reasons I suspect (I'm a cynic I know)
1) The gunman served 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer in 1980. He was convicted only of manslaughter, and was paroled in 1998. Maybe Liberals see that this would cause the masses to start calling for more stringent sentences on convicted psychos, and that goes against all that the Schumers of the world believe in.
2) The suspect was already banned from owning guns. Notice it didn't stop him from setting a fire, waiting for the firemen to arrive then gunning them down. Even if he didn't have a gun who's to say the fire he set wouldn't have taken out a fireman.
3)NY has the toughest gun laws in the country. He was forbidden to possess a gun.....didn't stop him.
So this psycho didn't fit the media template therefore the story will be forgotten within a week.
I think the tide is turning in our favor. Per local law any building owner may prohibit bringing firearms into the building by posting a notice . In my office such a notice has been affixed to the entrances for years. The building manager was asked a day after the Newtown murders if he would consider taking it down. They were removed this week.
Don't forget this is the justice dept behind Fast & Furious. This was the original intent behind that debacle. Give Mexican drug gangs access to high powered weapons, a few killings in the U.S. and viola, anti gun hysteria and calls for gun bans and confiscations. Newtown CT just accomplished that (in the left's eyes) more efficiently and with no connection to the regime.
Things I thought of as unthinkable 4 years ago seem very likely today.
What I find interesting coming from my liberal friends is their total lack of acceptance that a government could turn on its people to the point that the people would feel compelled to fight back. I always get the eye roll, OMG sigh and the ‘it’s not the 18th century anymore’ comment.
Here’s how we win:
Do what I did Saturday. I took two teacher friends out and shot guns with them. We shot several guns (that I unfortunately lost later after they fell out of a canoe) and the two friends genuinely had a good time breaking bottles and shooting scope. They are now interested in purchasing (and loving) their own set of guns.
If each of us did that, we will win.
Without arrogance and elitism, leftist/liberals wouldn’t have much to fall back on.
They are so much more “advanced” than you that it is simply ridiculous to believe that anything could be done in opposition to the State...
I think Mussolini had a similar point of view.
Had a similar situation with a relative at Christmas (I know, avoid politics and religion, but she brought it up). She said she saw no reason why anyone should own an assault weapon. I asked her how she defined an assault weapon and her definition was essentially a fully automatic weapon. I calmly tutored her on the need for a Class 3 license for that and that most of what the Democrats wanted to ban now were semi-automatic rifles, functionally equivalent to a common hunting rifle but which look similar to military rifles. It would be like banning cars with Corvette bodies but Chevette engines because you can race Corvettes.
I don't think I changed her mind, but at least she knows not to poke the bear.
almost every time I have been in a gun shop in the past 3 months (once every couple of weeks or so), I have seen older women buying their first gun.
One old gal bought a .45 and then asked the dealer to teach her how to shoot it.
He hooked her up with some classes to do just that
Me either Laz.
Me either Laz.
I saw a pic on FB with the armed guards at Baraq’s kids school. Quite effective!!
1.Tax cuts? We can't afford them. (we've given in to the idea that the gov't owns all our money)
2. Abortion? Clearly consequence free promiscuity is more important to American woman than is the life of any baby they concieve.
3.Gay 'Rights'? In today's world the good guys fight for gay marriage while the evil old hateful rightwingers oppose them.
4. The American Work Ethic? For chumps only!
5. Living on the Dole. Every American's right!
6. Founding Fathers? Racist, sexist, slave owners.
And on and on and on. The liberals foist one perversion of our culture after another on us and call it normal and good, while those of us who dare say otherwise are pushed off the stage as racist bigots. Music, television and the movies offer debased and depraved 'entertainment' that the masses slurp up like pigs at a trough.
We're living in a world that calls good evil and evil good. And it gets worse every day.
You, sir, have nailed it. We do not need to control the media for gun control to fail. We need only inject a little common sense and facts. We have been creating enough new media for decades. We have reached a point where we had enough media to puncture the emotional push for "gun control".
Early Christmas morning two Binghamton police officers were responding to check on two suspicious men...as they approached the men fired on them...one officer was shot, one bad guy was shot dead. Officer was treated and released. If I want a gun, I should have the right to protect myself from the crazies in this world. By the time police officers could arrive on the scene, I would be dead.
This author’s optimism apparently results from his view of the issue through rose-colored glasses.
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