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The Unintended Consequences of Gun Control
American Thinker ^ | December 22, 2012 | Cameron Reddy

Posted on 12/26/2012 12:38:40 PM PST by Perseverando

In 1996, John Ross penned what has become a classic story of what might happen when the federal government oversteps its bounds and clamps down too hard on guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans. So chilling is the story, so graphic in its descriptions of how some Americans might fight back, that Mr. Ross and his wife were hounded and intimidated by federal authorities.

Yet the title of his novel speaks loudly about what the gun-grabbers can expect when they legislate from emotion rather than fact. There, in Unintended Consequences, many of them lost their fictional lives. Here, in real-life America, we have magnets that draw armed lunatics into schools, malls, and other venues where guns are banned.

So we need more gun laws! We need to reinstitute the assault weapons ban!

Let's recall.

In 1994, Congress implemented a so-called "assault weapons" ban. Basically, this law forbade the sale of guns that had two or more "assault" features. Pistol grips, telescoping stocks, bayonet lugs, extended magazine tubes, flash suppressors, and other accessories could suddenly turn a "lawful" gun into the singularly loathsome "assault weapon." In fact, when I added an extended magazine tube to a Benelli Super 90 shotgun before I first removed the pistol grip, I was, for the 20 minutes it took me to pull the pistol grip, committing a felony.

The law also banned "high-capacity" magazines. Henceforth, no magazine could be manufactured containing more than ten rounds.

Okay, fine and good. We all made do. We lived. We got really fast at making magazine changes. No one came to arrest me.

But the law was clearly foolish. Something not appreciated by the gun ban folks is that it takes barely a half-second to drop a magazine out of a handgun and ram a fresh one home.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; consequences; guncontrol; johnross; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment
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1 posted on 12/26/2012 12:38:47 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Special Thanks to Pookie18 – Today’s Toons 12/25/12
2 posted on 12/26/2012 12:41:41 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

When new guns were restricted to ten rounds, they immediately created high quality compact models. And Magnum wheelguns also became popular too.


3 posted on 12/26/2012 12:45:11 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Perseverando

I tried to find this book to buy it, and it is now so rare that it’s over $200. Did the government buy up all the available copies? It sounds to me that it would be profitable for the publisher to have a new printing.


4 posted on 12/26/2012 12:59:43 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: Perseverando

Nothing the libtards, a.k.a. communists, socialists, Marxists, anarchists, scumbag members of the Demonic Party, should EVER AGAIN be considered unintended.


5 posted on 12/26/2012 1:03:17 PM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Just for grins i searched that title on Kindle and did not see that particular text, but it did offer me Matt Bracken’s ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTICS trilogy. Hmmm.


6 posted on 12/26/2012 1:04:22 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Perseverando

“Unintended Consequences” by John Ross
Amazon
Used: from $133.42
New: from $345.75
Collectible: from $375.00

So, please tell me why the publisher hasn’t printed another run of this book that retailed for $28.95?

It’s 861 pages, and the reviews are amazing....


7 posted on 12/26/2012 1:05:39 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Real Cynic No More

http://www.zjstech.net/~ddixson/Unintended_Consequences.pdf


8 posted on 12/26/2012 1:06:43 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: G Larry
If you buy this book on-line, your name goes on a watch list at DHS. And no, I'm not making this up.

The only safe place to buy it is at a gun show or through a friend.

9 posted on 12/26/2012 1:10:09 PM PST by Publius ("A centralized government is a centralized evil." -- Gen. John Graham)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Unintended Consequences was one of the best books I have read. The historical account of how the 1934 NFA was enacted and and how the Supreme Court decided the Miller case was jaw dropping. My copy, now worth hundreds of dollars sits proudly on my book shelf. This is a must read for anyone associated with the so called gun culture. I never could figure out why John Ross didn't do a paper back edition.
10 posted on 12/26/2012 1:14:34 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Perseverando

11 posted on 12/26/2012 1:17:58 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: maine yankee

PDF bookmark.


12 posted on 12/26/2012 1:23:56 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Publius

If you post to FR you are on a DHS watch list.


13 posted on 12/26/2012 1:26:14 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Publius

There’s no doubt in my mind that buyers of this book get special attention.

I just downloaded the PDF, so we’ll see what happens.

I’d like more info on the harassment that Ross endured from the feds.


14 posted on 12/26/2012 1:28:38 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: driftdiver

From now on I am posting telepathically.


15 posted on 12/26/2012 1:33:11 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: maine yankee

Thanks for the link I’ve converted it to epub so I can read it on my eook reader.


16 posted on 12/26/2012 1:39:38 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: G Larry

I went to his website some years ago & he had books you could purchase directly. He suggested buying a case of autographed books to sell at fund-raisers. I just took another quick look & don’t see that anymore, but there’s a contact link...

http://john-ross.net/faq.php


17 posted on 12/26/2012 1:39:38 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: maine yankee

Thank you.


18 posted on 12/26/2012 1:40:23 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: SeaDragon

Snag the pic


19 posted on 12/26/2012 1:42:12 PM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: driftdiver
Re: If you post to FR you are on a DHS watch list.

Yes I know. I'm actually posting this from Obama's Civilian National Security Force Re-Education Gulag #57. If you thought public schools were bad........

WOLVERINES!!!! AVENGE ME!!!!!


20 posted on 12/26/2012 1:45:14 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Publius
Bought mine online years ago.

List? Should I care about that?

If so, aren't we way past any "tipping point" and due for a serious house cleaning any way...

21 posted on 12/26/2012 1:46:31 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: G Larry

Where did you find the pdf?


22 posted on 12/26/2012 1:48:10 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Eye of Unk
From now on I am posting telepathically.

Just posting telepathically won't help. You also need to post without being logged in.

23 posted on 12/26/2012 1:48:22 PM PST by Bob
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To: G Larry
I just downloaded the PDF, so we’ll see what happens.

I just tried to go there. No luck. Maybe I just wasn't quick enough. It will be interesting to see if that site page is down for good.

24 posted on 12/26/2012 1:54:39 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: driftdiver

Gladly. The enforcers will probably want to be on the same team / list after they see what O has in store or the American people. I think all tyrants secretly worry that their minions will wake up and turn on them.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 1:56:41 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: zeugma

“I’ve converted it to epub so I can read it on my eook reader”

How do you do that? Please explain.

And thank you (in advance!).


26 posted on 12/26/2012 2:00:22 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

“I tried to find this book to buy it, and it is now so rare that it’s over $200. Did the government buy up all the available copies? It sounds to me that it would be profitable for the publisher to have a new printing.”

I bought two when they came out and had John autograph them at a pro-2A rally in Denver (there were more cops than there were of us), I still have one and gave the other to a friend. The BATF tried to intimidate him because of the book. They didn’t like the way they were portrayed poor babies. I’ve read it several times but not recently.


27 posted on 12/26/2012 2:00:47 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Twotone

Went to your link and his account does not jibe well with the account of government intimidation described in the article.


28 posted on 12/26/2012 2:01:15 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: G Larry

Here it is at the bottom of the FAQ...

If you want to give out copies of UC as gifts or sell them at fundraisers etc. and make some money, call Accurate Press at (800) 374-4049 to get case pricing (multiples of 8 books.) If you ask nicely, you can probably convince them to make me sign them all for you. Accurate Press is also on the web at www.accuratepress.net.


29 posted on 12/26/2012 2:02:35 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: G Larry

“So, please tell me why the publisher hasn’t printed another run of this book that retailed for $28.95?”

Just a guess, but maybe for liability reasons. If something goes down, and the perpetrator has a copy of this book, the publisher is sure to get sued into oblivion by the libs.


30 posted on 12/26/2012 2:06:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Blueflag
ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Great book and it paints a very realistic scenario that is just a stark and eye opening as Ross' book.

31 posted on 12/26/2012 2:09:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: maine yankee

my, thank you for the link!


32 posted on 12/26/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: mosaicwolf
"Today in America, honest, successful, talented, productive, motivated people are once again being stripped of their freedom and dignity and having their noses rubbed in it.

The conflict has been building for over half a century, and once again warning flags are frantically waving while the instigators rush headlong towards the abyss, and their doom.

It is my hope that these people will stop and reverse their course before they reach the point where such reversal is no longer possible.

John Ross

September 1995"

33 posted on 12/26/2012 2:11:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"Really ancient stuff - this is more or less a quote from Herodatus about the duties of the ancient Persians.

The actual quote is: "to ride well, shoot straight, and speak the truth...""

34 posted on 12/26/2012 2:14:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: NurdlyPeon
I just tried to go there. No luck.

Try again. It's there. You can also right click the link and use 'Save link As'.

35 posted on 12/26/2012 2:17:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Bought mine online years ago.

List? Should I care about that?

If so, aren't we way past any "tipping point" and due for a serious house cleaning any way...

Just for the heck of asking, "What was your MOS?" Semper FI,

TS

36 posted on 12/26/2012 2:24:09 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: TIElniff
How do you do that? Please explain.

Download Mobi Book Creator for free. It will convert Adobe .pdf files to all formats read by Kindle (prc) or Nook.

37 posted on 12/26/2012 2:27:23 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: Perseverando

30 rounds to 10 rounds, to 7 rounds, to 5 rounds, to 3 rounds, to 1 round, to NO ROUNDS.

“shall not be infringed”???

But if he had his preference, Bloomberg said he would go farther than the 1994 ban and outlaw all automatic and semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines. The mayor said magazines shouldn’t be allowed to contain more than five or six rounds.

“If you haven’t hit the deer with three shots, you’re a pretty lousy shot. The deer deserves to get away,” he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bloomberg-blasts-nra-connecticut-actions/story?id=18029157#.UNt5yhG7NCA


38 posted on 12/26/2012 2:34:04 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: The Shrew

6027. F/A-18 A/C jet engine mechanic.


39 posted on 12/26/2012 2:49:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: TIElniff
Download Calibre from the site below...

http://calibre-ebook.com/

It will let you convert just about anything to anything as long as the doc isn't encrypted. It takes a little trial and error to get the output to be what you want, but with a little practice, you can do some really cool things.

Calibre is great. It runs on Mac, Linux and Windows. I use Linux, so I'm more familiar with that.

40 posted on 12/26/2012 2:51:07 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: theBuckwheat
“If you haven’t hit the deer with three shots, you’re a pretty lousy shot. The deer deserves to get away,” he said.

What does THAT have to do with the Second Amendment?

41 posted on 12/26/2012 2:58:19 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Publius

“If you buy this book on-line, your name goes on a watch list at DHS. And no, I’m not making this up.”

If you served in the military, your name is on the DHS list. The one matter the fascist federal gestapo didn’t account for is that 400-lb fat, waddling DHS slobs can’t easily find cover on a battlefield unless they’re fighting in California’s redwood park or at the old Mad Tea Party ride at Disneyland.

Fatty, fatty two-by-four
Can’t get through the kitchen door.


42 posted on 12/26/2012 3:18:51 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Dead Corpse
My son is a 6317 - F-18 Aviation Electronics Maintenance. He disagrees with me as much as you do! Must be the aircraft!

Semper Fi,

TS

43 posted on 12/26/2012 3:24:03 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: sergeantdave

Forgot pictures...

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=fat+federal+DHS&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1096&bih=605&tbm=isch&tbnid=bSWQ4na6K7ihxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916863/posts&docid=4jEqednyHhEOqM&imgurl=http://yeahshesaidit.com/wp-content/uploads/big-government-fat-ass.jpg&w=500&h=326&ei=qIbbULKAJvCB0QGP6oDIDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=492&vpy=162&dur=44&hovh=181&hovw=278&tx=141&ty=85&sig=114990749991065666610&page=2&tbnh=142&tbnw=242&start=15&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0,i:138


44 posted on 12/26/2012 3:29:11 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: DesertRhino

What I really noticed was how high-powered revolvers became more common. I’m thinking along the lines of the S&W500 or the Taurus Judge shooting .410 shotgun rounds.


45 posted on 12/26/2012 3:37:21 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Publius
If you buy this book on-line, your name goes on a watch list at DHS. And no, I'm not making this up.

So I shouldn't mention I have my hardbound copy, still as good as the day it was printed new, sitting less than 10 feet away from me because I'll get put on a DHS watch list?

I thought I got put on that list when I bought 4 100rd .223 Magazine's for my AR-15's!

46 posted on 12/26/2012 3:44:56 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
You're on the list because:
  1. You post at FR.
  2. You mentioned you have a copy of the book at FR.
  3. You own a weapon that only the government should possess, you bought oversized magazines for the proscribed weapon, and you mentioned it here.

It's either the Red List or the Blue List for you.

47 posted on 12/26/2012 3:47:57 PM PST by Publius ("A centralized government is a centralized evil." -- Gen. John Graham)
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To: FormerLib

>> high-powered revolvers became more common. I’m thinking along the lines of ... the Taurus Judge shooting .410 shotgun rounds...

If it’s a “high powered revolver” you’re seeking, you can do WAY better than a Judge loaded with .410. Trust me — I have one.


48 posted on 12/26/2012 3:53:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Chickensoup

Post # 8 of this thread...

A later poster said it wasn’t working for him...

This has “Twilight Zone” written all over it...


49 posted on 12/26/2012 4:05:53 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

>> This has “Twilight Zone” written all over it...

Yeah, or “Operator Error”.

I had no problem downloading it and... uh hang on a sec, will ya, there’s some guys in ski masks and flak jackets at the door...


50 posted on 12/26/2012 4:09:02 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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