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Opposed to same-sex marriage, company ends wedding business
The Baltimore Sun ^ | December 25, 2012 | Eric Cox

Posted on 12/26/2012 5:30:12 PM PST by Pinkbell

An Annapolis company whose old-fashioned trolleys are iconic in the city's wedding scene has abandoned the nuptial industry rather than serve same-sex couples.

The owner of Discover Annapolis Tours said he decided to walk away from $50,000 in annual revenue instead of compromising his Christian convictions when same-sex marriages become legal in Maryland in less than a week. And he has urged prospective clients to lobby state lawmakers for a religious exemption for wedding vendors.

While most wedding businesses across the country embraced the chance to serve same-sex couples, a small minority has struggled to balance religious beliefs against business interests.

Wedding vendors elsewhere who refused to accommodate same-sex couples have faced discrimination lawsuits — and lost. Legal experts said Discover Annapolis Tours sidesteps legal trouble by avoiding all weddings.

"If they're providing services to the public, they can't discriminate who they provide their services to," said Glendora Hughes, general counsel for the Maryland Commission on Civil Rights. The commission enforces public accommodation laws that prohibit businesses from discriminating on the basis of race, sexual orientation and other characteristics.

The trolley company's decision, publicized by a straight groom offended by what he called "repressive bigotry," offers a snapshot of a local business navigating a new landscape in Maryland's wedding industry, and leaving it behind for a competitor to swoop in.

The head of the Maryland Wedding Professionals Association said the trolley company is the second vendor to refuse business over the state's same-sex marriage law, which voters upheld in November. The Maryland clergyman who led opposition to same-sex marriage called the trolley company's choice to abandon profits on principle "gutsy" and predicted that more businesses would quietly follow suit.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution
Schubert pointed to a handful of other examples publicized in news reports across the country of wedding vendors sued for refusing to accommodate a same-sex ceremony: a pair of Vermont innkeepers, a New Jersey church group and a New Mexico wedding photographer.

I also want to mention Catholic Chartities being forced to shut down their adoption programs in Massachusetts because they only believed in adopting to heterosexual couples. The whole article is a good read, and it is full of quotes of liberals supporting this law and being glad he shut his wedding business down because he is a "bigot". Liberals are using things like homosexual marriage and the healthcare mandate as tools to push Christianity out of society.

I'm waiting for the day when they enforce a law calling the Bible hate speech. You'll be allowed to be Christian, but only if you follow the fuzz, sanitized version approved by liberals.

1 posted on 12/26/2012 5:30:17 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 12/26/2012 5:32:16 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

I am sorry for this man who lost his legitimate business because of evil people with an agenda.

However, I give him credit for sticking to his Christian priniciples and trust the Lord will bless him for his decision.


3 posted on 12/26/2012 5:45:11 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: Pinkbell

If a State decides that two (or more) people can marry, if that is all that happened, I could live with that because I don’t have to approve, change my beliefs or what beliefs I pass on to my children.

However, once gays and their supporters have sufficient influence with a State to redefine marriage, they don’t stop there. They use the State to forbid me from acting on my morality and beliefs. In fact, the State in some cases forces me to accommodation in their practices.

If I have children in public school, the State will insist on teaching them that gay marriage is just as normal as the God’s marriage. You will be sanctioned as a parent if you attempt to remove your child from such indoctrination.

If you run a business that could provide services to the public, you will be sanctioned if you decline to treat gays as non-gays. For example, if you run a wedding photography business, you will be sanctioned if you decline to photograph a gay wedding. This has already happened in California and New Mexico [1].

You may lose control of your own property. [2]

In short, gays will demand that non-gays accept them as moral equals, which they are not and cannot be.

When the State says they are equal it is forbidden for a private citizen to dissent from that status. In doing so, they seek to force me to give them approval for something that I will never approve of. It is that last point that galls gays the most.

Curiously, when advocates of gay marriage are asked if their policy also would allow polygamy or polyandry, they recoil in horror and insist that it does not. However, logic demands that it does. I would ask how same-sex parents are going to react in the future when, for example, Utah public schools officials require that teachers instruct the children that LDS-related polygamy is just as “normal” as same-sex “marriage”.

The fact that this will be an issue will show yet again that gay “marriage” is not about marriage at all it is about forcing the rest of us to approve of repugnant sexual immorality, something that LDS polygamists never demanded.

[1] Refusing To Shoot Gay Marriage Is Discrimination, Says New Mexico Appeals Court
http://www.popphoto.com/news/2012/06/refusing-to-shoot-gay-marriage-discrimination-says-new-mexico-appeals-court

[2] Judge Rules Christian facility cannot ban same-sex civil union ceremony on its own premises
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/judge-rules-christian-facility-cannot-ban-same-sex-civil-union-ceremony-on


4 posted on 12/26/2012 5:55:37 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Pinkbell

>>>While most wedding businesses across the country embraced the chance to serve same-sex couples...

Says who?


5 posted on 12/26/2012 6:02:03 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: Pinkbell

In a free country, people would be free to do business with whomever they wished. In a free country.


6 posted on 12/26/2012 6:05:43 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Pinkbell

The govt does not belong in the marriage business. In this case, it’s persecuting those that refuse to service homosexual behavior. This is not the first instance of persecution and it won’t be the last.


7 posted on 12/26/2012 6:09:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Pinkbell
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

I remember when Americans believed in the idea behind the First Amendment. When someone is compelled by law to either give up their religious beliefs or give up their business, America is no longer a free country. This act of evil by the far left disgusts me. It is precisely as revolting as the HHS mandate to pray for abortion for employees. The idea of another civil war worries me, but not as much as the idea of watching what used to be a free country continue down this path.

8 posted on 12/26/2012 6:11:21 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“I am sorry for this man who lost his legitimate business because of evil people with an agenda.

However, I give him credit for sticking to his Christian priniciples and trust the Lord will bless him for his decision.”

Exactly.

Chicka Filet....However you say it, should have done the same thing. Otherwise they are hypocrites


9 posted on 12/26/2012 6:14:54 PM PST by Revel
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To: Wisconsinlady
I am sorry for this man who lost his legitimate business because of evil people with an agenda.

Yeah, but he knows he did the right thing. His conscience will stay clean because of it. I'm sure his friends, family, community and God will reward him for his good example.

10 posted on 12/26/2012 6:41:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Revel

How are they hypocrites? Do you even know what the impetus was for the controversy?


11 posted on 12/26/2012 6:53:14 PM PST by optiguy (Winter is coming.)
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To: Revel

Chick-fil-a should stop selling chicken because they might sell to homos?


12 posted on 12/26/2012 6:57:55 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: concerned about politics
I am sorry for this man who lost his legitimate business because of evil people with an agenda.

Yeah, but he knows he did the right thing. His conscience will stay clean because of it. I'm sure his friends, family, community and God will reward him for his good example.

At some point, doing the right thing will include no longer accepting that we forfeit our first amendment rights simply because we engage in a for-profit vocation.

13 posted on 12/26/2012 7:02:17 PM PST by optiguy (Winter is coming.)
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To: Pinkbell

Calling the Bible “hate speech” is what Communists states did and do. Can’t do that here without decimating the First Amendment.


14 posted on 12/26/2012 7:06:59 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: stevio

There are some here who have no clue.


15 posted on 12/26/2012 7:10:42 PM PST by optiguy (Winter is coming.)
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To: Pinkbell; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Hostile work environment for devout, Christian heterosexuals.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


16 posted on 12/26/2012 7:20:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: theBuckwheat

The law that was used to break the hold of racial segregation is now being used for a trivial purpose, which is to make gays feel good.


17 posted on 12/26/2012 7:20:39 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Pinkbell; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

18 posted on 12/26/2012 7:23:14 PM PST by narses
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To: Wisconsinlady
I give him credit for sticking to his Christian principles and trust the Lord will bless him for his decision.

Me, too.

19 posted on 12/26/2012 7:31:17 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Wisconsinlady
I'm sorry too; and angry. Homosexual activism is not at all about "equal rights" but oppression.

But if this man only had $50k in revenues from weddings, surely his business has other product and service segments that can keep him afloat. Fifty thousand in revenue wouldn't pay one salary.

20 posted on 12/26/2012 7:38:46 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: narses

I thank him for standing on his principles. Right is right. He should not be forced to do business with those who are abominable to his religious belief.


21 posted on 12/26/2012 7:43:02 PM PST by Brownie63
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To: stevio

“Chick-fil-a should stop selling chicken because they might sell to homos?”

If a business is privately owned and a majority of owners all agree, then the business is their’s to operate or liquidate as they see fit.


22 posted on 12/26/2012 8:49:49 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: fwdude

‘Homosexual activism is not at all about “equal rights” but oppression.’

It’s oppresion done in the name of so-called “equality” a.k.a. communism. The homosexualist movement wants everyone else to be as equally miserable as they are.


23 posted on 12/26/2012 9:11:53 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: coloradan

What you said.

The whole idea that no-one (business) can “discriminate” is absurd.

Insurance discriminates - single young males pay more than elder married males, etc. No-one has yet proposed a law.

Some small businesses can discriminate against a guy who doesn’t wear a shirt. No laws to keep that from happening?

Yet we can’t behave in business as we would in “real life” where we’re supposed to have freedom of association. If we don’t want to serve certain people, so be it. Tough luck. And it’s easier to see what the values of those people are, too, as a customer.


24 posted on 12/26/2012 9:32:04 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: coloradan

We lost this battle when the federal government decided, and the courts agreed, that it was government’s power to force white people to provide services to black people.

So many conservatives, rightly repulsed by the notion that a person should be treated differently because of the color of their skin, confused that notion of what was right, with the idea that we needed to force people to be better.

Don’t get me wrong, you can’t go back. We wouldn’t really need those laws anymore, because a vast majority of businesses would not discriminate, and those that would, well people would learn where not to shop (white people know where they can’t travel or walk, and we don’t generally sue over it).

But we never should have legislated tolerance.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 9:42:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: coloradan

26 posted on 12/26/2012 10:20:07 PM PST by kcvl
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To: optiguy
There are some here who have no clue.

Uhhh,.... yeah.
27 posted on 12/27/2012 12:18:48 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Pinkbell

That’s one way of going Galt. As far as Christianity being outlawed......it’s coming....it’s coming. The day of testing is drawing near.


28 posted on 12/27/2012 3:52:41 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Pinkbell; P-Marlowe
"If they're providing services to the public, they can't discriminate who they provide their services to," said Glendora Hughes, general counsel for the Maryland Commission on Civil Rights. The commission enforces public accommodation laws that prohibit businesses from discriminating on the basis of race, sexual orientation and other characteristics.

I'm thinking that this bureaucrat is wrong, despite the court rulings.

For example, if a wedding shop opened that positioned itself as "The Amish Wedding Place", would it be illegal for them to carve out a market niche?

Likewise, if advertised as "The Traditional Christian Wedding Place", then I see any lower court getting over-turned for the same reason ObamaCare just got told there must be an accommodation for religious concerns.

29 posted on 12/27/2012 6:57:58 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: theBuckwheat
If a business is privately owned and a majority of owners all agree, then the business is their’s to operate or liquidate as they see fit.

I agree that a business should not have to accommodate the abomination called same-sex marriage, but Chick-fil-a's not going to have a litmus test to buy a sandwich. Then again, if they wanted to, that is their prerogative.

30 posted on 12/27/2012 10:13:45 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Pinkbell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
From article:
"If they're providing services to the public, they can't discriminate who they provide their services to," said Glendora Hughes, general counsel for the Maryland Commission on Civil Rights. The commission enforces public accommodation laws that prohibit businesses from discriminating on the basis of race, sexual orientation and other characteristics.

Discrimination in Public Accommodations

Snip:
Federal law prohibits public accommodations from discriminating on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin.
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Maybe take the state law to federal court.

31 posted on 12/27/2012 11:25:29 AM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: stevio; optiguy

Pay attention people. When it comes down to a choice of paying for abortion in order to stay in business then the choice should be to go out of business.

If at any point they chose to pay for abortion services then they are hypocrites. You can’t claim that it violates your religious views and then chose to cave in order to stay in business.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 2:00:55 PM PST by Revel
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To: stevio; optiguy

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/26/supreme-court-denies-hobby-lobby-request-for-reprieve-from-health-care-mandate/

This is another big one. Hobby lobby should hold a press conference, and announce the immediate shutting of the company and the termination of employment of all of its employees.

If enough companies did this then it might make a difference.


33 posted on 12/27/2012 2:14:07 PM PST by Revel
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To: stevio

You are exactly right. A business relationship is generally simply an economic one and both parties choose to put almost all differences they may have with each other aside in order to mutually benefit. However, some types of business requires a level of personal involvement and different people are willing to allow only a certain level of that before some differences can become material.

For example, if I owned an electric utility, how could it be any of my concern what people did with the power they were using? But since I know what God thinks of two people of the same sex attempting to “marry” (which for them is physiologically impossible) I cannot in any way allow my creative talents to be hired to help them conduct that ceremony.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 2:23:13 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Revel

I see your point.


35 posted on 12/27/2012 2:30:56 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Pinkbell

Most of the comments at the source are disgusting and hateful beyond words.


36 posted on 12/27/2012 4:40:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

I know. I could only read a few before I was too disgusted to continue.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 7:33:42 PM PST by Pinkbell
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