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Marine Vet Burns Mosque to Avenge Soldiers
Military.com ^ | 12/20/2012 | John Seewer

Posted on 12/27/2012 10:23:15 AM PST by katiedidit1

"When asked by a federal judge whether he thought all Muslims are terrorists, he answered: "I'd say most of them are."

A deal between prosecutors and Linn, 52, calls for him to be sentenced to 20 years next April. He pleaded guilty to intentionally damaging and destroying religious property and two gun-related charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hatecrime; islam; wot
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1 posted on 12/27/2012 10:23:21 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach said it was fortunate no one was there. “This is a man who had intolerance in his heart and acted with hate,” he said. “We can count ourselves lucky.”

Linn said he went room by room to make sure no one was in the building. “I was drinking a beer while I was doing that,” he said.


2 posted on 12/27/2012 10:25:27 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

He should be hailed as a hero.


3 posted on 12/27/2012 10:25:37 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: katiedidit1

The guy that murdered those firemen up in New York only served 17 years for the hammer murder of his grandmother. But that was not a HATE crime.


4 posted on 12/27/2012 10:26:22 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: katiedidit1

Terrible job of excerpting. Is there a reason why you did it?


5 posted on 12/27/2012 10:27:50 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What is the problem? click on the article if you wish.


7 posted on 12/27/2012 10:30:01 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Responsibility2nd
A decent excerpt.....

TOLEDO, Ohio - A former Marine from Indiana admitted Wednesday that he broke into a mosque in Ohio and set fire to a prayer rug because he wanted revenge for the killings of American troops overseas.

Randy Linn pleaded guilty to hate crime charges, saying he'd become enraged after seeing images of wounded soldiers in the news.

"Every day you turn on the TV, you see Muslims trying to kill Americans," said Linn, a truck driver from St. Joe.

When asked by a federal judge whether he thought all Muslims are terrorists, he answered: "I'd say most of them are."

A deal between prosecutors and Linn, 52, calls for him to be sentenced to 20 years next April. He pleaded guilty to intentionally damaging and destroying religious property and two gun-related charges.

U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary told Linn that his acts were an attack on all places of religion and that the mosque was a symbol of peace.

"You are no better than the terrorists or extremists you sought to punish," Zouhary said.

Prosecutors said Linn drove about two hours from his home to suburban Toledo on Sept. 30 and broke into the mosque where he poured gasoline on the rug and lit it on fire.

He estimated that he had drunk 45 beers over several hours before he decided to drive to Ohio.

more....

8 posted on 12/27/2012 10:31:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Speaking of 45 Beers.... A great thread...

 

Indiana Man Got 'Riled Up' Watching Fox News, Drank 45 Beers, And Then Set Fire To A Mosque
TBI ^ | 12-21-2012 | Aleksi Tzatzev
 

Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 1:21:22 PM by blam

Indiana Man Got 'Riled Up' Watching Fox News, Drank 45 Beers, And Then Set Fire To A Mosque

9 posted on 12/27/2012 10:32:43 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: katiedidit1

20 years for burning a prayer rug and gun related charges in which nobody was hurt? The average sentence for rape is 12 years. Ridiculous fascists.


10 posted on 12/27/2012 10:34:11 AM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: katiedidit1
Excerpting the way you did is a sign of laziness or sloppiness.

You do know that you can post more than 10 words in a thread, don't you?
 

Try and do better next time.

11 posted on 12/27/2012 10:34:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: katiedidit1; TigersEye

Linn should have been given a sentence of 12 months rehabilitation served by serving hamburgers to Marines at Quantico.

Secondly he should have been awarded the “enlightened pyromaniac” award.

Every Mosque on American soil is a pustule intended to destroy the Constitution and the nation for which it stands.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 10:35:33 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: katiedidit1
Here's the money quote:

He estimated that he had drunk 45 beers over several hours before he decided to drive to Ohio.

Also, the depth to which political correctness has infected even everyday thinking in this country is revolting:

U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach said it was fortunate no one was there. "This is a man who had intolerance in his heart and acted with hate," he said.

...which differentiates this crime from all of the other instances of arson, which were done out of love. The weak-minded fools in this country who have drunk deep of the Kool-aid think that the greatest crime is "hatred" or "intolerance". You will tolerate anything and everything in this country, no matter how vile or hostile, or we will throw your ass in jail for 20 years.
13 posted on 12/27/2012 10:36:02 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: katiedidit1

I wish I could have gotten on his jury.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 10:36:02 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: katiedidit1
"When asked by a federal judge whether he thought all Muslims are terrorists, he answered: "I'd say most of them are."

He's wrong: all of them are!

I'd like to see that Judge walk a mile in one of our Soldier's in Afghanistan's boots before he passes judgement, bet he'd think otherwise!

16 posted on 12/27/2012 10:36:56 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Your excerpt is no better. IF you are too lazy to click on the link that is your problem.


17 posted on 12/27/2012 10:38:52 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s an Associated Press article and is clearly stated, does your excerpt meet FR posting guidlines for AP?


18 posted on 12/27/2012 10:38:57 AM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: katiedidit1
U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary told Linn that his acts were an attack on all places of religion and that the mosque was a symbol of peace. Really? Can anyone support this theory?
19 posted on 12/27/2012 10:39:34 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: katiedidit1

He did not destroy a mosque. He set fire to a prayer rug..... The Mosk sprinkler system kicked in and put out the fire. Mosk klowns claim there is smoke and water damage. I would love to get a truthful assessment of how much


20 posted on 12/27/2012 10:39:41 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: katiedidit1
A sprinkler system extinguished the blaze, leaving smoke and water damage in the prayer room of the facility, whose golden dome is a landmark along Interstate 75. No one was hurt.

20 years? Outrageous.
21 posted on 12/27/2012 10:39:47 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary told Linn that his acts were an attack on all places of religion and that the mosque was a symbol of peace.

The judge actually said that with a straight face? How many dead (civilian and military) in Muslim countries? Hey buddy, remember 9/11/01? Symbol of peace my lily white backside.

"You are no better than the terrorists or extremists you sought to punish," Zouhary said.

That judge isn't too bright. Condemns the Marine, admonishing him about "peace" then turns around and confirms the very thing he just denied. Acknowledges that the act was intended to punish terrorists and extremists - at a Mosque.

23 posted on 12/27/2012 10:43:06 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: jazusamo

^Jazusamo:) it infuriates me that Linn may serve 20 yrs in prison for a crime in which noone was injured. Hate crime laws need to be challenged.


24 posted on 12/27/2012 10:43:49 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: jazusamo

Yes. Click the link in post 11. I posted an excerpt less than 300 words and less than 50% of the actual article.


25 posted on 12/27/2012 10:44:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
He estimated that he had drunk 45 beers over several hours before he decided to drive to Ohio.
I don't think anyone - even a Marine - could drink 45 beers over several (7) hours and still be functioning.
His BAC would be .76!
26 posted on 12/27/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: katiedidit1

20 years for burning a mosque? What’s the going rate for burning a church?


27 posted on 12/27/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

thread police? Why not click on the article instead of threadcrapping... maybe watch out the window for some kid to step on your lawn.


28 posted on 12/27/2012 10:45:24 AM PST by Naplm
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To: Responsibility2nd

20 years is too much. This wasn’t a hate crime as much as it was mis-directed grieving. This Marine needs peer-to-peer counseling, probation, and to pay for damages.

A peaceful, forgiving people, church, and religion would also ask for the recommendations I’ve outlined above.

I wonder what these Muslims asked for?

(I had a bad friend once get an arson charge and he didn’t do any jail time.)


29 posted on 12/27/2012 10:45:45 AM PST by Noamie
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To: andyk

When Christian Churches are burned down, what kind of sentences are handed down? How does this burning of a prayer rug compare?

My suspicion is this sentence was harsh to appease Muslims.


30 posted on 12/27/2012 10:46:14 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: andyk

How can 20 years be outrageous when Linn plead Guilty and accepted the 20 year sentence?


31 posted on 12/27/2012 10:46:35 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: katiedidit1

“U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary told Linn that his acts were an attack on all places of religion and that the mosque was a symbol of peace.”

Objection!

Assumes facts, not in evidence!
Conjecture, your Honor!


32 posted on 12/27/2012 10:46:35 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It is YOU that should brush up on FR rules. Your whining is distracting from the article and NOONE else is having a problem.


33 posted on 12/27/2012 10:48:33 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

I agree, especially that he went through the building to make sure no one was there. Hate crime laws should be done away with...period.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 10:49:10 AM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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“U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary”

It figures, the judge is Lebanese! Linn was right about the Muslims being mostly terrorists. It’s like most of the Blacks hate White people. You may not like the answer, but sadly, it’s the truth.


35 posted on 12/27/2012 10:50:02 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Naplm

“Why not click on the article ...”

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Did you not see post 8. I posted it.

(You’re welcome)


37 posted on 12/27/2012 10:50:57 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The 300 word excerpt does not apply to AP articles, they are supposed to be excerpted “very briefly.”


38 posted on 12/27/2012 10:51:28 AM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes. Click the link in post 11. I posted an excerpt less than 300 words and less than 50% of the actual article.

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Are you hoping for a FR Commendation or something? I fail to understand why you’ve made this thread about your alleged excerpting skills.

Go ahead and take a gold star out of petty cash for your efforts.


39 posted on 12/27/2012 10:52:59 AM PST by dmz
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To: aomagrat; All
What’s the going rate for burning a church?
just ask Billy Jeff "Slick / Little Willie" Klintoon....
the "fireman" shooter got 17 years for murdering his mom
w/ a hammer...and he stole (the most) recent weapon(s).

40 posted on 12/27/2012 10:53:31 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :-)
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To: Mr. Lucky

How? Which excerpt gave you the better story? If you like lazy, sloppy excerpts, then fine. But as you see, my excerpt has generated far more input.


41 posted on 12/27/2012 10:54:01 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: driftdiver

You got that right, I would gladly put his name on a bumper sticker and send a bunch of kids out into a mall parking lot.

These are the unknown heroes the MSM fears to report and will be erased from history if we forget, and our souls will be dammed if we turn our heads away from it.


42 posted on 12/27/2012 10:55:44 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: libertarian neocon
A pimp in Ohio kidnapped two under aged teenaged girls. They vanished off the face of the earth, their parents did not know what happened to them. They were raped and forced to work as prostitutes. Nobody knows if this pimp has done this before and nobody knows if he would have murdered them when they were not of any use to him anymore. Nobody knows if he had kidnapped other girls who never returned home to their parents because they may have been murdered and their bodies dumped somewhere. Never the less he got only 8 years in prison for 2 counts of kidnapping, multiple counts of rape, forced prostitution on minors and who knows how many other crimes. Remember that an 8 year sentence does not necessarily mean 8 years served—many criminals have much of their sentence reduced while they are in prison.

How many years did terrorist William Ayres and Bernadette Dohrn get? Zero! Ayres and Dohrn are part of the communist underground so they have a network of judges, politicians and other important people looking out for them. And contrary to what Ayres claims, they really did murder someone—a policeman from San Francisco. Their terrorist group was not discovered till a couple of their group blew themselves up while working on a nail bomb that was going to be used at a dance at a New Jersey fort.

43 posted on 12/27/2012 10:57:15 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Responsibility2nd

it’s people like you that drive away people from posting articles. I appreciate the link and excerpt of the original poster, I saw it in my RSS FR feed on my desktop and clicked on it. Lo and behold, like many other FR threads, there is a little ninny policing and bemoaning. Seriously, if the mods don’t start putting these ninnies in their place, it will drive many away. It’s distracting from the discussion and serves no purpose other than to stroke the ego of chronic complainers.


44 posted on 12/27/2012 10:57:18 AM PST by Naplm
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To: jazusamo

Alert the mods then. Have them remove post 8.


46 posted on 12/27/2012 10:59:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: katiedidit1

Was the mosque full of male Muslims aged 12 and over? If not, burning it was a wasted effort.


47 posted on 12/27/2012 11:01:35 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Alert them yourself, it’s your uninformed post, I only informed you of FR policy.


48 posted on 12/27/2012 11:01:45 AM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: katiedidit1

there are a bunch of prima donnas running around FR like it is their sacred right to correct excerpts and blog postings as they see fit. Annoying more than anything, just best to ignore them.


49 posted on 12/27/2012 11:02:38 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Simply make the point, then move on.


50 posted on 12/27/2012 11:03:47 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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