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San Jose, CA light rail among the nation's worst
San Jose Mercury-News ^ | 12/27/12 | Mike Rosenberg

Posted on 12/27/2012 12:00:43 PM PST by fifedom

there was no grand celebration this month as Silicon Valley marked 25 years of light rail... The near-empty trolleys that often shuttle by at barely faster than jogging speeds serve as a constant reminder that the car is still king in Silicon Valley -- and that the Valley Transportation Authority's trains are among the least successful in the nation by any metric.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; democrats; enviros; green; rail; scam; trains; transportation; unions; waste; willie
The bureaucrats who draw salaries from this boondoggle try to spin it: "I believe we are ultimately going to realize the (original) vision," said Kevin Connolly, VTA's transportation planning manager. "But I think what's happened is that it wasn't quite as easy or quick as originally conceived of 30 years ago." LOL
1 posted on 12/27/2012 12:00:53 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom

30 years ‘late’. lol , and soon we will have a BART station closeby, currently two miles away a light rail station runs thru there now and will get BART’d in the next few years.. construction just means more dang pool cleaning here.. I need a subsidy ;-]


2 posted on 12/27/2012 12:05:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: fifedom
Farther down in the story, they state that it costs $11.74 per passenger trip but tickets are $1.75. At that cost, the taxpayers could hire cabs for each rider and be ahead because they would not have to go into debt for $billions to build this white elephant.

BTW, kudos to the Mercury-Snooze for this story although I think they are just trying to make left-wing government work--an impossible task.
3 posted on 12/27/2012 12:06:43 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
The only purpose of Metropolitan Transportation Districts is to give Eric Holder's people a license to steal large quantities of public funds.

Reparations!

4 posted on 12/27/2012 12:08:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: fifedom

speaking of boondoggles, where did Willie Green go?


5 posted on 12/27/2012 12:09:00 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: fifedom

Ha...just wait til the high speed train from Button willow to Bakersfield comes on line


6 posted on 12/27/2012 12:09:31 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: fifedom

Anyone remember Houstons metro rail. Sorry POS


7 posted on 12/27/2012 12:09:43 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: fifedom; All

They are spending Billions for this nonsense in Orlando area...and even got support for spending this billions from GOP Gov Rick Scott and other GOPers

Light rail in Orlando is doomed to fail, because so few people conduct business downtown, and, no lines reach out to the eastern and western suburbs of Orlando. Not a good decision


8 posted on 12/27/2012 12:09:43 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: fifedom
The San Jose Light Rail served a vital purpose when it was built, which was to provide transportation to a key property downtown.

That property was owned by Mayor Tom McEnery, who was instrumental in getting the San Jose Light Rail and downtown hockey stadium funded and built. These taxpayer funded projects increased the value of his property tremendously.

9 posted on 12/27/2012 12:17:35 PM PST by caltaxed
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To: fifedom

“If you build it, they will come.” And tax you.


10 posted on 12/27/2012 12:24:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fifedom

Hah!

Our overall total to about $65 billion. (For comparison, the notorious Boston Big Dig, after its overruns, came in at $18 billion). At that point, 72 miles of the 125-mile system would remain to be built. Bond payments have been extended to 2040 at 600 million a year!!!

The price originally cited for the entire 125-mile network was $13 billion. Its completion was projected for 2020.

Not only that the trains have hit several cars and pedestrians!


11 posted on 12/27/2012 12:33:34 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: fifedom

“But I think what’s happened is that it wasn’t quite as easy or quick as originally conceived of 30 years ago.”

San Jose didn’t follow development rules of encouraging housing to balance out commercial properties. There was more money to be made from large computer campuses (campi?) and housing was a secondary, if that, consideration. what housing was available necessarily skyrocketed in price. Speaking of twenty years ago, when we moved to the area the company sent us brochures of houses available in Silicon Valley. We could pick up a 1500-sf house with a carport for “only” $445k. We went to an exurb and picked up a house almost twice as big for half the price. Many, many Silicon Valley workers live outside the San Jose Valley area. For some there is BART or commuter rail but for most it requires a car.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 12:36:06 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: fifedom

In most places it makes no economic sense at all. Here in Dallas a ride on the bus cost about $3 and the taxpayers probably pay $10 a rider on top of that.


13 posted on 12/27/2012 12:43:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: martin_fierro

ping


14 posted on 12/27/2012 12:57:05 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: fifedom

The only people I know who take it don’t have a car and have legal issues.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 1:24:10 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: SeminoleCounty
Light rail in Orlando is doomed to fail, because so few people conduct business downtown, and, no lines reach out to the eastern and western suburbs of Orlando. Not a good decision

I think you possibly being excessively negative. That said it often seem to me that the expected utilization figures for far too many transit projects are somewhere between fantasy and dubious. My biggest question would be are they planning on building it as an integrated system (big failure in Baltimore is that it was not, DC got a system designed at the same time, was built as a system and it works better). Next question is does it take people from where they are to where they want to go? E.G. are Disney, Universal studios, the major sports and convention venues, and the Airport planned stops?

16 posted on 12/27/2012 2:23:20 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: Fraxinus

So, are you trying to say you are supporting Government control of “transit projects”?


17 posted on 12/27/2012 2:29:06 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The only purpose of Metropolitan Transportation Districts is to give Eric Holder's people a license to steal large quantities of public funds. Reparations!

The only purpose of government is to give certain people a license to steal large quantities of public funds ie legal plunder. Winning!

The quaint concept that government in some way represents the People's interests in terms of preserving liberty is a fantasy. Once you properly adjust your perspective, there are simply no surprises left.

18 posted on 12/27/2012 2:44:36 PM PST by semantic
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To: fifedom

What a piece of crap.

It goes nowhere near anything that makes it a worthwhile alternative to just driving.

Although, with the new 49’r Stadium being built, there will be opportunities to park somewhere on 1st street and grab the light rail there.


19 posted on 12/27/2012 3:05:28 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: fifedom

I lived and also worked within a half block of VTA stops. If I used VTA (bus and light rail) it took anywhere from 45 minutes to 1.5 hrs to get to work and cost $2.75. If I drove, it took me 12-15 minutes and cost about $1.50 for gas.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 4:18:12 PM PST by dinap
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To: fifedom
"In our case we tried to graft a big-city transit type of mode onto a suburban environment, and it's still kind of a work in progress," Connolly said.

Which is thinly-veiled code for "we know it doesn't work but we're not about to stop spending your money on it."

21 posted on 12/27/2012 4:28:46 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It must be heaven on earth to live in a state so prosperous that it can pay 11,000 employees of the state prison system over $100,000 per year and 900 employees over $200,000.

Would love to see the salary breakout for the staff of this transit operation. I’d bet it is equally rewarding.


22 posted on 12/27/2012 4:35:01 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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