Skip to comments.Man pulls gun over Obama bumper sticker dispute
Posted on 12/27/2012 3:21:34 PM PST by Ron H.
News video about armed altercation between Obama supporter and anti-Obama veteran opposer.
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Reporting is one-sided as could be. Surprise, surprise.
Free Speech ONLY applies to pro-Liberal speech (remember the anti-Bush stickers that NO ONE was "offended" by?)
I think he is innocent and should win a Congressional Medal of Honor and a Nobel Peace Prize.
Why is it that only Obamaloons have the right to be offended (by the truth)? I am offended that Obama even exists.
Remember, the “Messiah” told his followers to “get in their faces”
No, the younger guy in the video had the anti-obama sticker. The older guy objected, so the younger guy pulled his gun, made the old guy kneel, and held his gun to the old guy's head.
Heating up fast. There’s a storm coming..
“...and possibly...saved the man’s life.”
Sounds like she was disappointed.
Did he click an empty chamber or two, just to see if the Ubamascum moocher would wet his pants?
“... police got there just in time, and possibly saving the man’s life.”
If “the man” was going to die, he would already have been dead. The fellow with the bumper sticker was simply defending himself.
Anybody know what the bumper sticker said. Had to strike close to home, or the chump wouldn’t have reacted as he did.
I happen to believe the very same thing. Makes me think, I need to drop by my local sporting goods store and get some more stock for my pea shooters.
This is something I will never understand. The war over bumper stickers. I cannot make myself care about other people’s bumper stickers. My sister had a President Obama sticker. My uncle had a Romney sticker. We went to lunch. They parked next to each other. We laughed. It is no one’s business whose bumper sticker one wants to display. Why would anyone care?? And to pull a gun? A gun???
Doesn't matter if the old guy started it. Self defense with threat of lethal force only works if you are acting in response to an immediate danger of serious bodily harm or death. You can't bring a gun to a shouting match. Force must match force. Else the defender becomes the aggressor in the eyes of the law. The young fella is likely in for some trouble.
The obamnite was a very, very lucky man.
IF I feel that mine needs to comes out, there will be no warning. I’m using it....the whole magazine load.
But then again, I don’t put bumper stickers on my car and I stay pretty much out of trouble’s way as much as I can.
Let me point out the obvious salient point here: it is a FREE speech issue and not a bumper sticker issue.
However let me say as an aside that freedom of speech is still legal in America I believe. Pulling a gun on the apparently deranged Obama claptrap old man was not necessarily the best way to express that right (even though I understand the younger man completely) but I wasn't there and don't know anymore than anyone else here what actually transpired. But I too just might know how the armed vet might feel, I too have been verbally assaulted by a whacked out nut-job Obama knee padder and I was awfully tempted to do what the young veteran did.
Musta been a helluv a bumper sticker. I wonder which one it was.
We have our share of whacked out nut jobs ourselves.
But again, why say Anything to someone about their bumper sticker? It is no one’s business. Sorry to belabour the point. It just ticks me off.
Albuquerque police said Chris Williams was approached by Edward Rodriguez in a restaurant parking lot on Friday.
Rodriguez, a (Vietnam) veteran, was upset with the content of Williams’s bumper sticker which claimed that America made a big mistake re-electing President Barack Obama. Rodriguez told police that he wasn’t interested in discussing politics and told Williams, “People like you should be shot,” according to police.
After a brief shoving match, police said Williams drew a .380 pistol and forced Rodriguez to the ground. Williams claimed he was restraining Rodriguez until the police arrived.
According to the criminal complaint, Williams said he feared for his life because he believed Rodriguez had a knife and access to a gun. However police said they found no weapons in the area other than Williams’.
Would that be “force must match force” like with Martin/Zimmerman?
I understand, on a certain level, what you are saying. It is possible to kill someone with only bare hands. Basically, what the old guy did was stop the argument.
I would love to sit on this jury.
“Force must match force.”
So your saying that a 90 year old granny cant pull her colt
python on an unarmed 200 pound obama supporter if she is
being threatened by him?
They were both military veterans.
I’m a veteran, carry a weapon, and have the bumper sticker “FUBO” proudly displayed upon my rear bumper. I’m not going to start any altercation but if someone comes at me I am going to do what I need to do to defend myself.
Yeah; me, too.
What's your point?
Some were saying one was a veteran. My point was..is ...that they were both veterans. My husband is a veteran also. And..thank you for your service.
The question is, did he have a legal permit?
He pistol was used in self-defense to stop the ongoing assault by the man who was offended by the bumper sticker. The pistol appears to have been effective in bringing the unprovoked assault to a sudden end.
Pistols tend to do that, don’t they??
At least in your mind it would appear. I wasn't addressing the gun issue but rather the speech issue. Duhh?!!
No, just the person wielding the pistol.
“The question is, did he have a legal permit?
The question SHOULD be :”Why isn’t the Second Amendment recognized as the ONLY permit needed?”
All licensing of arms is an infringement.
This is why you should not get out of jury duty. Your countrymen need you.
When the initial aggressor said to the other that “people like you should be shot..” he was making a threat.
I would acquit the bumper sticker owner .
Yes, we are in agreement. The problem comes in where the state prosecutor wants to quible over the question of whether or not Williams was obligated to see Rodriguez actually threatening Williams with a firearm, knifee, or other deadly weapon. The problem with that limitation upon Williams’ right to self defense is that Williams had no way of knowing whether or not Rodriguez was unarmed and/or Rodriguez was setting Williams up for an attack by associates approaching Willimas from behind. By the time any of this could be determined by Williams, he could already have been killedd or suffered grievous bodily harm. Holding the immediate assailant at gunpoint allowed Williams to stop that assault and prepare for any further moves by Rodriquez and/or any accomplices Rodrriguez could have had.
I agree. But when the defense lawyer learns that I'm very pro 2nd Amendment or anti-criminal I don't even get close to making onto the jury. Darn my luck.
Absolutely my FRiend. Repeal the 1934 NFA and everything since. "shall not be infringed" means just that. What other right requires a license? I don't need to register or pay a special tax to pray or attend church or to voice my opinion.
If this BS continues, though, expect that may just happen.
No, the younger guy is the one with the anti-Obama sticker, who was approached by the older guy.
Perhaps it was this one...
(It looks great on my rear window!)
Unless you're a white hispanic being pummeled by an even more protected minority.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.