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1 posted on 12/27/2012 3:28:55 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The reason this prohibition exists is simple.
As we saw with the rescinded Bancroft Prize for history a few years ago, so called research about guns is often politically motivated fabrication and falsehood only de-bunked with great effort.


2 posted on 12/27/2012 3:37:18 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: neverdem
This ended the carnage but greatly diminished the prospects that anyone will ever know why he chose to commit such horrible acts.

If you're looking for a rational motivation for an insane act committed by a
mentally ill person then something's not right with your head, doc.

3 posted on 12/27/2012 3:41:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem
A.) The vast majority of gun murders are committed by inner city blacks and hispanics operating as agents of various organized criminal enterprises. This is verifiable with the FBI crime data base.

B.) These criminals almost never use a rifle of any kind let alone an "assault rifle". They are using cheap handguns that are frequently stolen. This is also verifiable using the FBI crime database.

B.)taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not decrease the incidence of murder in America and we have decades of scientific evidence that confirms this.

4 posted on 12/27/2012 3:45:56 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: neverdem

They keep trying to get the death rate down but
abortions are UP!


5 posted on 12/27/2012 3:52:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem; All

Hmmmm ..?? Never know why ..??

I wonder if it had anything to do with all the Satan Worship stuff they found in his bedroom ..?? Ya think!

These people really do think we’re so gullible and stupid we can’t figure stuff out.

Pitiful!!!


6 posted on 12/27/2012 4:17:09 PM PST by The Final Harvest ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: neverdem

INCONVENIENT FACT: Countries that allow private gun ownership have much lower overall murder, suicide and violent crime rates than countries with pervasive gun control laws.

EVIDENCE: According to no less an authority than the peer-reviewed Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, countries with stringent gun control laws have higher murder and suicide rates than those without.

DOCUMENTATION: “Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?” A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence by Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser, Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, pages 649-694. (To download a PDF copy of the journal article, simply Google the title. It is available on the web free of charge.)

QUOTE: “If you are surprised by our findings, so are we. We did not begin this research with any intent to “exonerate” handguns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources.”

INDIRECTION: The trick hoplophobes always use is to say that America has higher gun-murder rates than other countries, but a lot of those “murders” are criminals killed in the act of committing violent crimes. Compare absolute murder rates, and the result is “more guns, less murder.” (Source: GunFacts.info);

SECOND INCONVENIENT FACT: According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by US citizens 2.5 million times per year to prevent violent crimes like rape, robbery, home-invasion and carjacking, 99% of the time without a shot being fired. (Source: GunFacts.info)

THIRD INCONVENIENT FACT: “Assault weapons” (AKA semiautomatic rifles) are used in less than 1% of gun crimes. (Source: GunFacts.info)

QUESTION: If gun-free zones make people safe, then why don’t we declare the immediate vicinity of the President and Vice-President to be gun-free zones and send the Secret Service home? Or are gun-free zones good enough for our kids, but not good enough for our overlords?

METAPHOR: America has more private gun ownership than most other countries, so naturally there are more gun murders. America also has more hospitals than most other countries, so naturally we have more people dying in hospitals. Does that mean we should outlaw hospitals?


11 posted on 12/27/2012 4:56:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: neverdem

Kellerman seems intent on maintaining his stature as one of the leading pathological liars of the gun-control movement.

He really is reprehensible.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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"Perhaps the same straightforward, problem-solving approach that worked well in other circumstances can help the nation meet the challenge of forceps violence."


16 posted on 12/27/2012 6:21:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: neverdem
(Screed -- JAMA, I'm surprised at you!):

Decades of research have been devoted to understanding the factors that lead some people to commit violence against themselves or others. Substantially less has been done to understand how easy access to firearms mitigates or amplifies both the likelihood and consequences of these acts.



IOW .....
We have to PROVE by using STATISTICS that
| gun ownership <=> MurderDeathKill |

< / off Sandra Bullock>

Somehow I think he's trolling for another Bellesiles "study".

26 posted on 12/28/2012 1:44:37 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

Check these out:

http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2012/12/21/about-that-armed-deputy-at-columbine/

Apologies if they’re already posted.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 10:06:29 PM PST by FreeKeys (When morons are allowed to vote public policy is shaped by demagoguery, not the facts of reality.)
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To: neverdem

I had no idea that Arthur “Like hell I’m gonna let you look at my raw data” Kellerman was still around.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 10:48:58 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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