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Stigmatizing Gun Owners Makes Civil Debate Impossible
Commentary Magazine ^ | 12/27/12 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 12/27/2012 8:27:31 PM PST by Nachum

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There is no debate. "They" want war.
1 posted on 12/27/2012 8:27:46 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Who do you hear calling for “civil debate”?

The left has no interest in any such thing.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.”

They exploit any situation, using emotional, illogical arguments, to advance their leftist agenda.


2 posted on 12/27/2012 8:32:46 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Nachum

You’re right. I got into an online discussion with anti-gunners who see it as a war and they compare themselves to George Washington and us pro-gunners are the British. I just shake my head at that logic, actually, the lack thereof. How in the He** can we argue against those Chuckleheads that think that way. Let’s face it, we are in a cold civil war and unless things change to where they wise up, the only way we will beat them is use force down the line, it will be the only language they will understand. I hate to say it but as other option fall by the wayside, it will be the only option, sadly. They want to push us into a corner. As we know, an animal pushed like that has nothing to lose. As my favorite example, even a day old baby chick will fight nasty if cornered.


3 posted on 12/27/2012 8:33:17 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nachum
The conceit of the article is to heighten suspicion of all gun owners and to render them pariahs. That effect is not softened by the fact that the author notes that he has a legally registered pistol.

I realize the overt motive was to stigmatize gun owners. But there is certainly nothing wrong with owning and carrying, it is the free riders who benefit from a polite and armed society who should be stigmatized.

4 posted on 12/27/2012 8:34:25 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Nachum

It is the Alinsky way. Ridicule and humiliate your enemies. Make them targets for the unstable. Those in charge of our Gov’t are Alinsky disciples. They have control now, but will not forever. I believe in the power of the free American people. Those who are under the influence of the evil ones are suffering from shaded eyes. They will wake up someday. Hoepfully soon. Then the ‘Won’ and his minions will suffer. Bet on it.


5 posted on 12/27/2012 8:34:45 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Nachum

Making civil debate impossible is the goal. This is 1984 America, this is a time when the information channels are controlled by the enemy.

This is Algore shouting that the debate is over, no more discussion, except now the topic is defense against a tyrannical government.


6 posted on 12/27/2012 8:39:14 PM PST by DBrow
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To: originalbuckeye

Well yes, if the good guys will get with a return to American manufacturing.

Right now we are sending our factories to a massive country with a communist government which opposes our rights.

What is the plan to turn this around?


7 posted on 12/27/2012 8:41:05 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Nachum

Here’s a nightmare version of this:

Say that I have a bleeding heart liberal HR person I have do deal with.

“Mister Hayek, I see here that you have a gun permit. Honestly, I feel uneasy about you working here. I feel threatened by the fact that you own a gun, and so may other people working here. This is a potential hostile work environment, so we are going to have to let you go. Please seek professional help.”

Of course, such termination “with cause” may also be considered extreme defamation of character, but that is part of the Far Left (Stalinist) playbook.


8 posted on 12/27/2012 8:42:18 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Fred Hayek

Yes. It is the communist-afication of our country. Sad.


9 posted on 12/27/2012 8:48:00 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
I agree, I see no desire for "debate" from the left. All they want to do is screech about the NRA and killing machines.

There is not reasoning or debate with them. They smell blood and are in a feeding frenzy. I would love to say what I feel in the local op-ed pages, but do not want to give anyone ammunition to send DHS or similar my way.

Defying them publicly or telling them you will never submit to their stated goals will probably get unwanted attention.

10 posted on 12/27/2012 8:49:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Nachum

I think what they have really done is give every petty thief in the area a “road map” of what houses to rob. If you are a thief, do want to enter a home of a gun owner? The non-gun owners should just put a sign on their doors, “Rob me”.


11 posted on 12/27/2012 8:50:40 PM PST by johnd201 (johnd201)
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To: Nachum

I like it. One more reason to use a list of registered Democrat voters as a roll call of traitors...


12 posted on 12/27/2012 8:54:36 PM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a Single Star!)
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To: Nachum

What’s to debate? The second amendment stands, period. “Shall not be infringed.” Get over it libtards, we are not surrendering or rights, our freedoms, nor our firearms.


13 posted on 12/27/2012 8:55:53 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Nachum

The MSM, Obama and the rest of the left are not interested in a debate. Their belief that THEY always know what is best for the rest of us precludes any need for debate on their part.


14 posted on 12/27/2012 9:14:42 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Nachum

Fine with me. I’m not interested in talking with them about anything anymore. I wish Boehner felt the same way.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 9:17:52 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Nowhere Man
George Washington and us pro-gunners are the British.

Ask them do they hold dear our Constitution? Then we will see who is George Washington. And wonder what makes them think the British didn't have guns?

16 posted on 12/27/2012 9:18:59 PM PST by presently no screen name
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I agree. There is nothing to discuss. The Law of the Land has already spoken.


17 posted on 12/27/2012 9:26:09 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Nachum

The Left wouldn’t know a “civil debate” if it punched them in the face and raped their dog.


18 posted on 12/27/2012 9:42:47 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Nachum

gun control
just say NO


19 posted on 12/27/2012 9:46:01 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

That reminds me of a deep thought by Jack Handy that went something like “Marla wouldn’t know love if it ran up and bit her on the ass”.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 9:52:53 PM PST by Yardstick
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