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Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, coalition forces leader during Persian Gulf War, dies
Fox News ^ | 12/27/12

Posted on 12/27/2012 9:38:49 PM PST by FrogMom

Truth is, retired Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf didn't care much for his popular "Stormin' Norman" nickname.

The seemingly no-nonsense Desert Storm commander's reputed temper with aides and subordinates supposedly earned him that rough-and-ready moniker. But others around the general, who died Thursday in Tampa, Fla., at age 78 from complications from pneumonia, knew him as a friendly, talkative and even jovial figure who preferred the somewhat milder sobriquet given by his troops: "The Bear."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: desertstorm; obituary; schwarzkopf; vietnamvets
God rest his Stormin' soul!
1 posted on 12/27/2012 9:38:53 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: FrogMom

Now there brings back really great GOP memories, a Republican led war that was popular and obvious victory.
Early 1991 when the military surprised everyone who was worried and pessimistic with an easy victory. Norman was like a hero like Patton in that, so confident. so right.

It went to hell a few years after that (nothing to do with him) .


2 posted on 12/27/2012 9:48:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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To: FrogMom

RIP Sir. It was an honor.


3 posted on 12/27/2012 9:48:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: FrogMom

RIP General. You done good.


4 posted on 12/27/2012 9:50:54 PM PST by eggman (End the Obama occupation of the White House!)
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To: FrogMom

Loved this guy. Weary from losing the good guys here on earth when things are so bad. :(


5 posted on 12/27/2012 9:59:30 PM PST by freeagle
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To: FrogMom

A good man and the last of America’s real generals. He was the real deal, not a Petraeus, or McChrystol type that would be just as happy working on a corporate board, or at some university.
And Stormin’ Norman ran America’s last war with things like battleships bombarding the enemy with 16 inch, F-4s flying SEAD, OV-10s instead of drones, artillery prep before attacks, B-52s carpet bombing with iron bombs three times a day, for weeks at a time,,, Daisy cutters being dropped over enemy concentrations “just because”. And oh yeah, it was the last war with Bob Hope showing up.

After Norman left, the pussies took over. Rest in peace sir.


6 posted on 12/27/2012 10:02:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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My favorite quote by him:

“As far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that, he’s a great military man, I want you to know that.”


7 posted on 12/27/2012 10:07:06 PM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: DesertRhino
My son wrote a letter to him as part of a high school project. General Schwarzkopf sent a personal reply.
8 posted on 12/27/2012 10:10:57 PM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: FrogMom

With the utmost respic and admiration to Stormin Norman Operation Destern Storm and GHWB


9 posted on 12/27/2012 10:24:14 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: CIDKauf

respect and Desert....little hasty


10 posted on 12/27/2012 10:25:27 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: FrogMom

RIP, General.


11 posted on 12/27/2012 10:27:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: CIDKauf

Huh? Is it too soon to say he was awesome, the last of the real generals, and will be missed? Or is it too soon to relay a stiry as to how he answered a child’s letter? Get a grip.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 10:41:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: FrogMom

I was thinking about him earlier this evening.

At one of the press conferences, he played a clip and said something like “and here is the luckiest man in Iraq...”

The clip shows a truck crossing a bridge over a deep ravine.
Just before the missile hit that blasted the bridge to smithereens!

God Bless ya, General!


13 posted on 12/27/2012 11:10:24 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: DesertRhino

Think he was correcting his own typos, made in haste...read back to the post he replied to.


14 posted on 12/27/2012 11:18:05 PM PST by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: FrogMom

Fantastic leader! I admire the fact that when he retired he didn’t try to capitalize on his success and favorability, but just quietly retired to be with his family and left politics to others.

I watched CNN live coverage as much as possible after getting home from work each day.

It was shameful the way the Colin Powell would frequently show up and try to claim the limelight for the successes planned and executed by Gen. Norman S. .....That’s when I began despising Powell and he’s done nothing since then to change my mind.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 2:10:55 AM PST by octex
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To: FrogMom

Oh God bless him, he served his country well! He’s like a modern Gen. Patton. Then there’s his former boss in the hospital; hopefully he’ll pull through, now!


16 posted on 12/28/2012 2:13:34 AM PST by dsutah
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To: DesertRhino

General Swartzkoff is one of the few American Generals that can claim to have won a war. The list is short, Washington, Scott, Grant, Pershing, Ike, and McArthur. He clearly ranks with these men in our history.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 2:56:26 AM PST by X Fretensis
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To: sickoflibs
Schwarzkopf was a good man, a good soldier, but I'm sorry, the war was not a good one imho (an of course in hindsight) -- nothing to do with the General, but more the politics

Saddam was an evil dictator, but he was a secular evil dictator who kept the Iranis and the Sunni Al Qaeda militants in their place

Us putting troops in Saudi arabia was the justification used for 9/11

If we had let Saddam keep Kuwait, he would have threatened the Saudis and prevented the Saudis giving money to train Wahabbis all over the world (he would have grabbed the money for himself) and Saddam would have gone back to his real aim -- to kick the living s*** out of the Iranis

With the oil money, he could have done this, slaughtering thousands of Irani Shia fanatics (like he did in the Iran-Iraq war)

It also meant that we started paying money and attention to the Pakis again (due to Afghanistan) instead of them just breaking up.

In hindsight, we should have stayed the heck out of that -- GWI leads directly to 9/11, GWII and the Afghanistan involvement.

18 posted on 12/28/2012 3:35:39 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: FrogMom

I remember during Desert Storm he showed the video of what he described as the “luckiest man in Iraq”. It was of a US missle fired I belive from aircraft taking out a bridge on the main supply highway from Kuwait back up into Iraq. An Iraqi millitary supply truck just made it across a bridge when the missle hit the bridge and took it out in a giant explosion.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 3:38:49 AM PST by MachIV
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To: FrogMom

RIP Sir, prayers up for you and yours.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 3:39:43 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: FrogMom

He served with honor. RIP general.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 4:21:25 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Cronos

I agree. In hindsight, we should have just cut a quiet deal with Saddam and bought our oil from him rather than the corrupt Kuwaitis or the Wahhabi Saudis. Kuwait was just not worth the trouble it ultimately wrought, and neither was Saudi Arabia. And he could have used all of that oil money to continue pummeling the Iranians.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 5:03:40 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: FrogMom

God rest his soul.

He was the last “real” general in American history.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 6:03:40 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Timber Rattler

Saudi arabia — definitely not worth it. They are our enemy. It’s interesting to think of what could have happened — most likely Saddam would have been able to crush the Ayatollahs. He’d grab the western provinces of Iran


24 posted on 12/28/2012 6:50:54 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: DesertRhino

Sit up a little higher in your chair so reality doesn’t fly so far over your grape, obtuse one.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 11:36:58 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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"Powell," Schwarzkopf told his staff one day, "is a political genius. But he lacks the stomach for war."

The Generals' War, pg. 327

26 posted on 12/28/2012 12:10:50 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"Powell," Schwarzkopf told his staff one day, "is a political genius. But he lacks the stomach for war."

Colon Powell, Wesley Clarke and John Kerry are not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath as General Norman Schwarzkopf.

Also 'is a political genius' is really not a complement coming from a one military man to another.

I could think of others who fall in that category but you get the point.

To the General, R.I.P

27 posted on 12/28/2012 3:43:32 PM PST by wmileo
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To: octex
"That’s when I began despising Powell and he’s done nothing since then to change my mind."

I don't despise him. He is a political opportunist not worthy to be in the same company with General Norman Schwarzkopf.

Powell is the Affirmative Action General just like Obama is the Affirmative Action President.

28 posted on 12/28/2012 3:55:19 PM PST by wmileo
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