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Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill (NRA-ILA Letter)
NRAILA.org ^ | December 27, 2012 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 12/28/2012 6:27:49 AM PST by servo1969



Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)—author of the federal “assault weapon” and “large” ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004—has announced that on the first day of the new Congress—January 3rd— she will introduce a bill to which her 1994 ban will pale by comparison. On Dec. 17th, Feinstein said, “I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation” and “It will be carefully focused.” Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.

According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of “assault weapon” that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:

The Department of Justice study. On her website, Feinstein claims that a study for the DOJ found that the 1994 ban resulted in a 6.7 percent decrease in murders. To the contrary, this is what the study said: “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders. Our best estimate is that the ban contributed to a 6.7 percent decrease in total gun murders between 1994 and 1995. . . . However, with only one year of post-ban data, we cannot rule out the possibility that this decrease reflects chance year-to-year variation rather than a true effect of the ban.  Nor can we rule out effects of other features of the 1994 Crime Act or a host of state and local initiatives that took place simultaneously.”

“Assault weapon” numbers and murder trends. From the imposition of Feinstein's “assault weapon” ban (Sept. 13, 1994) through the present, the number of “assault weapons” has risen dramatically. For example, the most common firearm that Feinstein considers an “assault weapon” is the AR-15 rifle, the manufacturing numbers of which can be gleaned from the BATFE’s firearm manufacturer reports, availablehere. From 1995 through 2011, the number of AR-15s—all models of which Feinstein’s new bill defines as “assault weapons”—rose by over 2.5 million. During the same period, the nation's murder rate fell 48 percent, to a 48-year low. According to the FBI, 8.5 times as many people are murdered with knives, blunt objects and bare hands, as with rifles of any type.
 

TracesFeinstein makes several claims, premised on firearm traces, hoping to convince people that her 1994 ban reduced the (relatively infrequent) use of “assault weapons” in crime. However, traces do not indicate how often any type of gun is used in crime. As the Congressional Research Service and the BATFE have explained, not all firearms that are traced have been used in crime, and not all firearms used in crime are traced. Whether a trace occurs depends on whether a law enforcement agency requests that a trace be conducted. Given that existing “assault weapons” were exempted from the 1994 ban and new “assault weapons” continued to be made while the ban was in effect, any reduction in the percentage of traces accounted for by “assault weapons” during the ban, would be attributable to law enforcement agencies losing interest in tracing the firearms, or law enforcement agencies increasing their requests for traces on other types of firearms, as urged by the BATFE for more than a decade. 
 

Call Your U.S. Senators and Representative: As noted, Feinstein intends to introduce her bill on January 3rd. President Obama has said that gun control will be a “central issue” of his final term in office, and he has vowed to move quickly on it. 

Contact your members of Congress at 202-224-3121 to urge them to oppose Sen. Feinstein’s 2013 gun and magazine ban. Our elected representatives in Congress must here from you if we are going to defeat this gun ban proposal. You can write your Representatives and Senators by using our Write Your Representatives tool here: http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx 
 

Millions of Americans own so-called “assault weapons” and tens of millions own “large” magazines, for self-defensetarget shooting, and hunting. For more information about thehistory of the “assault weapon” issue, please visit www.GunBanFacts.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; guncontrol; ila; nra; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/28/2012 6:27:54 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

2 posted on 12/28/2012 6:35:02 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: servo1969

3 posted on 12/28/2012 6:45:47 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: servo1969

Working on it for a year, while hoping and praying for the madman to rise.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 6:46:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: servo1969

I predict it passes the Senate, but never sees the light of day in the House. I don’t think the GOP will filibuster it with Obama on TV saying that the gun crazies are holding the nation hostage over this and stopping the business of fixing the fiscal cliff.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 6:47:32 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Perseverando

They have destroyed homes via divorce, they are trying to replace God with government, they have destroyed the family unit by encouraging single births, they have encouraged child sacrifice on a massive scale, now, they are coming for the guns! The elites are conspiring against the last bastion of free humans on the earth, The United States of America!


6 posted on 12/28/2012 6:47:50 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I dunno.

The Senate is freaking out to lunch now, and the Dems are trying to ram this through.

I say the House will indeed stand firm. Might just save the speaker’s job.

Stand firm House of Representatives.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 6:50:21 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: servo1969

These people are like ghouls-— waiting around for another mental case to go completely bezerk so that they can dance on the graves of their victims to pass their agenda.

The mentally ill will always be among us. Occasionally, one of them will figure a way to do their evil deeds.

No one will ever rid this country of guns, and even if that were possible, there are other ways to cause multiple deaths.

The bottom line is that the sane, law abiding people have to have the tools to defend themselves against the evil doers.

Isn’t it funny, that’s it’s the people with armed body guards who are always the ones screaming for the disarming of the rest of us.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 6:53:52 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I predict it passes the Senate...

I don't even see it getting that far, there are seven democrat senators up for reelection in 2014 from rural "red" states who DO NOT want to have to be put in a position where they have to vote on this, the only Republican still in the senate that supported the renewal of the 2004 Ban is Collins. I highly suspect that Harry Reid doesn't want to lose his title of Majority Leader over gun control considering that the democrats are going to have enough time holding the senate as it is. Besides even if he tried he would have a difficult if not impossible task of getting 50 votes, let alone the 60 needed to stop a filibuster. My guess is he will let it wither away in committee, then quietly die once the passions die down on the issue.

9 posted on 12/28/2012 7:01:57 AM PST by apillar
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Dianne Frankenstein knows full well this has no chance of passing. My take on it...this is a precursor to an executive order/action.

Obozo will come out and spout that he is compelled to act as congress is deadlocked on the gun issue.

Who knows what the executive action could be, but these people need to begin breaking down gun ownership to advance their agenda. Not totally clear what the agenda is, but it doesn't look like freedom.

Using legislation, executive action, U.N. treaty, the courts, Uncle Sugar will throw as much stuff against the wall to what sticks and they will keep on...keepin on until they sufficiently erode our right to defend ourselves from an ever growing oppressive entity.

10 posted on 12/28/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Pearls Before Swine

We didn’t think Obamacare would pass either. Republican Senator(s) voting the bill out of committee so it could be discussed or whatever and the d@mn thing was passed. ANY part of this gun bill could be passed by the cowards in Congress. They need to hear a resounding NO to all parts of it ..... they should hear the ‘thunder’ in the distance from the ‘NO’s’ .... loud and often. The NRA is putting on 8K members a day - if 8K constituents called per day, maybe these dirtbags who are supposed to be representing us would listen. I wouldn’t “predict” anything or “think” the GOP will or won’t do something - we need to make SURE they don’t screw us over again. Just think ... the scum gave the Federal government control over our BODIES and our lives ... and we allowed it. If we allow them to pass any part of this gun bill .... we might as well march like lemmings to the police department and just give it all up and then march ourselves to the government gulags.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: servo1969
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12 posted on 12/28/2012 7:05:45 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: apillar
considering that the democrats are going to have enough time holding the senate as it is

You voted for the ban on GOP Senate candidates discussing rape, birth control, or female body parts?

13 posted on 12/28/2012 7:06:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: apillar
I'm actually slightly encouraged by this, if Feinstein had pushed a relativly mild bill like a straight up renewal of the 1994 ban, it...might...have stood a chance. But she, as the title states, "went for broke" and threw in "poison pill" crap like a registration scheme (guess she didn't learn from Canada...) and in doing so lost any chance that rural red state senate democrats and moderate republicans would get on board, let alone the Republican House.
14 posted on 12/28/2012 7:10:33 AM PST by apillar
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To: servo1969

This isn’t going go well or end well, for any of us. Here in PA, state reps are set to introduce ‘gun control’ bills, as are other states:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/27/states-cities-already-mulling-assault-weapons-bans/


15 posted on 12/28/2012 7:11:41 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: baddog 219

Bastards.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 7:12:10 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: IslamE

In short, the left is building Satan’s kingdom.

Indeed, we are in the last days. All of the technologies necessary to build his kingdom and fulfill prophecies is present.

But, I’ve read the back of the book, and we win.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 7:12:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

They are looking to push through a bill that touches the taxation mechanism of the NFA, and I believe, as such, that the bill must start in the House. That didn’t stop them from pushing Obamacare through, but just wanted to make sure it was understood that any bill affecting the treasury, as this would do since we would be required to register and pay for a tax stamp, must start in the House.

Again, I doubt the House will call for it being out of order, but they should.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 7:18:28 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: servantboy777

I agree, a new gun law isn’t the path they will take. I jotted this down in my journal the other day:

Paraphrased from the EPA website:

On April 2, 2007, the Supreme Court found that Greenhouse Gases (GHGs), including carbon dioxide, fit within the definition of air pollutant in the Clean Air Act (CAA). Now, less than 4 years later, GHG emissions will, for the first time, be covered by federal Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) and Title V Operating Permit Programs. These permitting programs, required under the 1977 and 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments, are proven tools for protecting air quality and the same tools will be used to reduce GHG emissions. But the thresholds established in the CAA for determining which businesses are subject to these permitting programs were based on traditional pollutants and were not designed to be applied to GHGs. EPA’s GHG Tailoring Rule, issued in May 2010, established a common sense approach to permitting GHG emissions under existing permitting programs. The Tailoring Rule sets different emission threshold criteria for permitting based on carbon dioxide equivalent emissions. Under the rule, permitting will focus on the largest industrial sources, while shielding millions of small businesses that make up the vast majority of the U.S. economy

Future text from the ATF website:

On April 2, 2014, the Supreme Court found that Assault Weapons (AWs), including semiautomatic weapons, fit within the definition of regulated items in the National Firearms Act (NFA). Now, less than 2 years later, Assault Weapons will, for the first time, be covered by federal Firearm Registration and Transfer Tax Programs. These registration programs, required under the 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA) and the 1968 Gun Control Act (GCA), are proven tools for protecting public safety and the same tools will be used to reduce AW violence. But the characteristics established in the NFA/GCA for determining which weapons are subject to these programs were based on traditional military firearms and were not designed to be applied to all firearms. ATF’s Firearm Safety Tailoring Rule, issued in May 2015, established a common sense approach to permitting AWs under existing registration programs. The Tailoring Rule sets different criteria for registration based on current military characteristics of modern firearms. Under the rule, registration will focus on the most dangerous weapons, while shielding millions of hunters and sportsmen who make up the vast majority of Americans gun owners.

My prediction:

The liberals are waiting to have a packed supreme court, then they will challenge the definition of “NFA-firearm.” Semiautomatic firearms are much more closely related to NFA-regulated-firearms than greenhouse gases are related to CAA-regulated-pollutants. If the EPA can completely disregard the clear language of the CAA, the ATF can completely disregard the clear language of the NFA/GCA. No new laws will need to be passed. No new agencies or government programs will need to be created. And Congress, the direct representatives of the people, will once again, be totally irrelevant.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 7:37:01 AM PST by kellyrae
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To: kellyrae
U.N. small arms ban (treaty).
EPA - lead ammunition environmental hazard (regulation).
HHS - gun violence national health threat, lead ammunition health threat (regulation).
AG - Gun violence national security threat (regulation).
Congress - legislation re instituting a weapons ban.
Courts - federal injunctions halting sales of “assault weapons” until courts make decisions.
Liberal State/municipal governments enacting new gun laws, ordinances restricting gun ownership.

I can see it coming.

20 posted on 12/28/2012 7:53:33 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servo1969
70 + % of Americans DID NOT WANT obozo care but the liberal socialists in government made a mockery of the process and were aided by the MSM’s selective reporting and we now have obozo care. We did not remain silent, hundreds of thousands of people peacefully challenged the government but to no avail. After the 2012 election those same liberal socialists are still on a roll to reshape this country and with the help of the MSM again, will do a repeat performance and force gun control down our throats.
To date, we have swallowed the government's citizen control measure, aka obozo care, we have swallowed the re-imaculation to the WH of the fraud obozo and I surmise that most will swallow the coming government gun grab. Obviously, placing any reliance on the good guys in DC to organize a counter effort to do what is right for the country in all regards is a fool's dream. Eventually, the globalists will win and we, the American patriots, will lose. What would any of our FOUNDING FATHERS expect us to do???
21 posted on 12/28/2012 7:53:53 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Perseverando

I was very surprized that she would propose something so weak for an initial bargaining position. I thought it would be “Mr and Mrs America, turn them in”.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 7:57:23 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: basil
The mentally ill will always be among us. Occasionally, one of them will figure a way to do their evil deeds get elected to the Presidency.
23 posted on 12/28/2012 8:29:06 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Perseverando
REMEMBER-

The way this works is that they will "over-reach" in what they're asking for in legislation, we will bitch and carp about it, and then they will scale it back and we'll be happy/relieved that was "all that was done to us".

This time around we need to be on top of the fact that there will be NO compromises on this. We "need" ZERO new gun laws. Any proposed need to be DOA.

(sorry for the super size, I wanted it to be half that but my html karate is bad...)

24 posted on 12/28/2012 8:35:42 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: servo1969

I’m not giving up my plasma rifle.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 8:45:52 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Axenolith

Exactly. Those linguini-spined RINO’s need to relearn the definition of “compromise”. It doesn’t mean that we get screwed and that’s our compromise, and they get to screw us less than originally proposed and that’s their compromise. Everyone has to get something they want, relative to the actual status quo ante, not imaginary datums that never actually existed in practice. If they insist on sticking to the other definition, then Pubsters have to start proposing things like the repeal of 10,000 laws and dissolution of 10 agencies, then claim it’s a “compromise” if we only get repeal 5,000 and axe 5 agencies.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 9:00:10 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I hope the GOP lets it come to a vote.

I want to know exactly who they are...

And if this passes...and somehow Obama EO's it...then I will be gone completely off the radar...and I would suggest everyone else does the same...

Pretty sad that I am nervous just posting anything now...

27 posted on 12/28/2012 9:03:03 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Still Thinking

LOL!

I’ve always thought that anyone who even wanted to be president was whacko!


28 posted on 12/28/2012 9:05:36 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: servo1969
she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012

Wow! That would make her some kind of an expert on scary looking guns, wouldn't it?

29 posted on 12/28/2012 9:20:47 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: servo1969
If the average firearm owning American doesnt 'get it' yet,
that somehow, they still think that this ISNT about making us 'serfs' or 'subjects'
that they will still be 'free' to hunt, or keep a pistol to defend their house & family against a home invasion from some Øzombie,
then we're toast.

Anyone who owns a firearm, of any type, for whatever reason, had better, at a minimum, go ahead & send a check or cash to either the NRA or GOA

Unless they are 'comfortable' with a nation that will quickly resemble this:
Where our nation is heading!

After all, just WHAT are those 1.4 BILLION rounds of ammunition the DHS bought going to be used for???
30 posted on 12/28/2012 9:48:05 AM PST by 45semi (Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from existential evil.-Packwoods Law)
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To: servo1969

Whew!

At least I can still attach my Corbomite Device under this legislation!


31 posted on 12/28/2012 9:49:50 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“I don’t think the GOP will filibuster it ...”

Have you forgotten that Harry Reid is going to all-but eliminate the filibuster in the Senate, in January?

Feinstein’s gun ban will sail through the Senate.

The House is the only firewall.
At least until 2014...


32 posted on 12/28/2012 10:36:10 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: MrB

Amen, that’s why I don’t let the Dems get the better of me, it’s hard sometimes with such arrogant individuals like: Obama, Pelosi, and Reid! Yet, I truly believe God is angry with these men and women who feel they have more wisdom than the Lord Almighty, they put their faith in laws of their own making and refute God’s Law altogether, the Dems denied God three times at their convention, since, we have had numerous tragedies and disasters, God will only tolerate the Dems’ hubris for so long, then, they will know His wrath!


33 posted on 12/29/2012 11:40:26 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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