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Woman Charged With Killing NY Firefighters
www.kolotv.com ^ | 12/28/2012 | AP

Posted on 12/28/2012 12:38:55 PM PST by redreno

WEBSTER, N.Y. (AP) - Police say a 24-year-old woman has been charged in connection with the ambush slaying of two volunteer firefighters responding to a house fire in upstate New York.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; backgroundcheck; banglist; guns; prisontime; spengler; strawpurchase; stupidwomen

1 posted on 12/28/2012 12:39:02 PM PST by redreno
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To: redreno

What did she do?


2 posted on 12/28/2012 12:41:15 PM PST by funfan
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To: redreno

Hang on... last time I checked this story the shooter was a 60-year old guy who also killed himself.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 12:41:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: redreno

What did she do?


4 posted on 12/28/2012 12:41:26 PM PST by funfan
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To: GeronL

Based on a quick read, looks like she supplied the weapon to the 60 year old shooter.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 12:44:15 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: redreno

Seems she bought the weapons that were used to kill the two firemen.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 12:44:25 PM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: funfan

Not based on anything more than a hunch, but i bet she was a straw purchaser for his guns. He was a convicted violent felon and wouldn’t pass instant check.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 12:46:15 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Police say a 24-year-old woman has been charged in connection with the ambush slaying of two volunteer firefighters responding to a house fire in upstate New York.

New York State Police Senior Investigator James Newell says Dawn Nguyen, of Rochester, faces a state charge of filing a falsified business record.

He says the charge is connected to the purchase of an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun that William Spengler had with him Monday when firefighters Michael Chiapperini and Tomasz Kaczowka were gunned down. Three other people were wounded before the 62-year-old Spengler killed himself.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 12:47:37 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: redreno

Female asian Holder wannabe.


9 posted on 12/28/2012 12:48:34 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: icwhatudo

OK.

but did she do something illegal?


10 posted on 12/28/2012 12:48:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: redreno

What she did carries at least 10 years federal time. But just watch, the left will be making excuses for her, poor little vietnamese woman, didn’t understand, not her fault, etc etc. She’ll get off with a slap on the wrist.
They will skirt right around real federal firearms violations like hers, and focus only on law abiding gun owners.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 12:51:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL

If a straw purchase, I would charge her with murder.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 12:54:13 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: DesertRhino

Likely she’s Korean, or at least that background. Known lots of “knew whens” in my day.

This is weird. Want to know if she was a shill or a dupe.


13 posted on 12/28/2012 12:55:24 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Nguyen is Vietnamese.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 12:56:48 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: redreno

The link says there is a press conference scheduled for 4 pm today (Fri 12/28).


15 posted on 12/28/2012 12:57:28 PM PST by austinaero
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To: GeronL

Yes, she did. If you represent yourself as the buyer, but you are actually buying them for someone else, thats a crime.
Things that can demonstrate that, are things like proof that she knew of his criminial background and that he could not pass a background check. Evidence that he provided the money for the guns. (ie,,say he let her use his credit card at the gun store)
Evidence from his computer, say he sent her an email naming the exact models to buy for him and that he will pay her cash plus a fee when she delivers them.
Say there are phone records where she sent him a text message saying “i got the guns you wanted, meet me at your place at 2pm”.
Maybe some agent knocked on her door and asked about the rifle she bought. And she answered that she only bought it for her neighbor but never meant it to be hers.
There are many ways a straw purchaser can screw themselves.

Never underestimate brazen stupidity.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: austinaero

If these were the days of real justice via lynching and she is guilty of furnishing him ANY weapons, I’ll buy the rope.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 1:05:09 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Strategerist

We have lots of Nguyens down here in La. Pound for pound they are tough people. They also dominate the advanced classes at the local Schools.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 1:15:48 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: redreno

Hey Feinstein, tell me again how here having to register these purchases would have stopped the bastard whom murdered the firefighters and should have been executed years ago have stopped him.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 1:18:47 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: BBell

True... can’t go back....But why was he ever released. That’s where the problem lies...I think Relin was the DA back then.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 1:20:05 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Viets around here pronounce it “Win”.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 1:21:19 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: DesertRhino

We left Vietnam 37 years ago. She’s as ‘merkun as Mom’s apple pie or H. Rapp Brown’s carbine.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 1:29:50 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: redreno

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 1:31:02 PM PST by PGalt
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To: funfan
What did she do?

Have you considered reading the article?

24 posted on 12/28/2012 2:23:51 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: DesertRhino

Well, the serno would have been traced back to her right off the bat, so she’s got some serious splainin to do.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 2:28:25 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: paul51
I did read a rather short article but it did not really say much. Just thought someone here may have had more information.
26 posted on 12/28/2012 2:29:25 PM PST by funfan
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To: palmer
Shouldn't we wait to be sure she's not affiliated with ATF, somehow? That would get her a pass.
27 posted on 12/28/2012 2:45:34 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: redreno

State Police Senior Investigator James Newell says the charges are connected to the purchase of an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun that William Spengler had with him Monday when firefighters Michael Chiapperini and Tomasz Kaczowka were gunned down.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 3:17:07 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: paul51
What did she do?

Have you considered reading the article?

I love it. Post after post asking the nature of her involvement when one click would have brought up the story of why. Just amazing. Some people are beyond "lazy."

29 posted on 12/28/2012 3:25:52 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: DesertRhino
But just watch, the left will be making excuses for her, poor little vietnamese woman

Nah. The left doesn't cotton much to Asians. Too resourceful, too hard-working, too intelligent, and too successful. They'll happily hang her.

30 posted on 12/28/2012 4:10:58 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: BfloGuy

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Obama won big with Asians.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 4:19:37 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: DesertRhino

If it was a straw purchase, she should be charged.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 4:39:16 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: Mouton
...tell me again how here having to register these purchases would have stopped the bastard...

Easy. If all guns were banned, criminals would have no access to guns and would be peaceful - or at least would have to work hard to figure out something else to kill with!

A good example is how well that has worked in Mexico where nobody is allowed to own a gun. There is almost no crime, and criminals are a sedate lot, and...

Oh, wait a minute, never mind...

33 posted on 12/28/2012 5:36:04 PM PST by Gritty (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns-Barack Obama response to John Lott, 1996)
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To: redreno
This woman is 100% American. I don't know where her last name came from.

Can anyone explain why this woman would be anywhere near - let alone purchase a gun for - that frightening geezer who killed his grandmother with a hammer? The stupidity is unbelievable.

34 posted on 12/29/2012 4:03:53 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: austinaero; GeronL
From the press conference:

According to court papers, Nguyen, 24, and Spengler, 62, went to Gander Mountain in Henrietta on June 6, 2010. There, Nguyen allegedly acted as a "straw purchaser," claiming that she was going to be the owner of the two weapons on the firearm transaction record, but, instead, giving them to Spengler, according U.S. Attorney William J. Hocul.

35 posted on 12/29/2012 5:56:50 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Frank_2001
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Obama won big with Asians.

Yes, I believe he did. But the left ignores them anyway.

As I said, they are too smart and too hard-working to be of any interest to liberals. That the Asians vote for them is disappointing to say the least.

36 posted on 12/29/2012 3:02:10 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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