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Leading proponent of filibuster reform claims he has 51 votes
The Hill ^

Posted on 12/28/2012 2:05:16 PM PST by SMGFan

Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), a leading proponent of filibuster reform, said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) has the 51 votes he needs to change Senate rules with the "nuclear option."

The maneuver would be controversial, however, and could heighten partisan tensions at the start of the 113th Congress in January. Republicans say using 51 votes to change Senate procedures — and to prevent the minority party in the Senate from blocking a majority-vote — amounts to breaking the rules to change them.

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Be good boys GOP. Roll over and play dead. Good boy. /s
1 posted on 12/28/2012 2:05:25 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Is there just ONE adult left in DC?

What a disgrace, an utter disgrace. Every negative trait known to mankind is embodied in these idiots.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 2:10:09 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: SMGFan

Isn’t it funny how there is no “gang of 14 or whatever to defeat this when a dem is in power?

When the GOP takes over, they won’t have the balls to do the same thing to the dems. They will fight for the rights of the minority.

Dems play to win, republicans play to be invited to parties and to appear on face the nation.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 2:20:06 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: SMGFan

Do the rats really want to do this? Really? If so, when they are again in the minority they will find that payback is indeed a bitch.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 2:21:01 PM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
The Dems know how to play political hardball. The know how to use power. The Reps had control of Congress and allowed the Dems to filibuster judicial appointments--a first. They could have used the nuclear option then but refused.

We are not playing by the Marquis of Queensbury rules. We are dealing with the raw exercise of power. The Dems know that they are now the permanent majority party when it comes to control of the WH. They don't have to worry about the Reps controlling the Senate anytime soon.

The Reps are the Stupid Party and deserve every humiliation the Dems can perpetrate on them.

5 posted on 12/28/2012 2:22:20 PM PST by kabar
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To: icwhatudo

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. -George Martin


6 posted on 12/28/2012 2:24:00 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JPG
...when they are again in the minority they will find that payback is indeed a bitch.

I don't seem to recall the Dims ever getting any *payback* from Pubbies, when Dims are minority...or ever :(

7 posted on 12/28/2012 2:24:07 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: JPG

They are not going to be in the minority in the Senate for a long time to come. And they have locked up the WH for as far as the eye can see.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 2:28:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
The Dems know how to play political hardball. The know how to use power.

It's not a matter of "knowing how". It's a matter of political abuse.

Dems have no problem doing this because they favor dictatorships.

The GOP don't...they favor freedom. And rightly so.

9 posted on 12/28/2012 2:30:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: SMGFan
After they eliminate the “Filibuster Rule”, Emperor Barack Hussein Obama the 1st can abolish the House of Representatives and institute a more mailable form of Government.
You know, a "Fascist" form of Government
10 posted on 12/28/2012 2:40:27 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: JPG
Do the rats really want to do this? Really? If so, when they are again in the minority they will find that payback is indeed a bitch.

Payback could come soon, since the "Obama babies" are up for re-election next year.

11 posted on 12/28/2012 2:46:07 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: what's up
If the Reps are afraid to get down in the dirt with these bullies and choose to stay above the fray, they lose as does the country.
12 posted on 12/28/2012 2:48:20 PM PST by kabar
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To: JPG
Do the rats really want to do this? Really? If so, when they are again in the minority they will find that payback is indeed a bitch.

They are setting the table so that their Reich will last a thousand years. No payback is anticipated.

13 posted on 12/28/2012 2:54:33 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone
Dumping the filibuster, gun control, climate change and other assorted liberal chestnuts, plus fearful red state rats facing reelection in ‘14, could well put the senate back in GOP control.
14 posted on 12/28/2012 3:09:21 PM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: icwhatudo
When the GOP takes over, they won’t have the balls to do the same thing to the dems.

Worse than that, IF the GOP is ever in power again, it'll be back to the "power sharing" schtick that they've done in every other time they've taken power.

Of course, the Dems believe in "power sharing" as well so it all evens out. Right? RIGHT?

15 posted on 12/28/2012 3:23:28 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica
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To: SMGFan

The only card left for the GOP to play is push for ‘proportional’ allocation of electoral college votes in states like PA, etc. Otherwise they will be extinct.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 3:28:28 PM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: JPG

“when they are again in the minority”

In 2004, I received a phone call survey during election season. The man led me down to the question of what I thought about 1-party rule. When I said that was crazy, he LAUGHED derisively. I hung up.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 3:33:36 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SMGFan

Why would they want to open that Pandora’s box when they do not control the House?


18 posted on 12/28/2012 3:34:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: JPG
Do the rats really want to do this? Really? If so, when they are again in the minority they will find that payback is indeed a bitch.

By bitch you must mean a cringing, whipped dog that submissively pees all over the place whenever the Dems look crossly at it. Because that is all of the bitch I know in the neo-Whig party that pretends to be the Republicans.

19 posted on 12/28/2012 3:36:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I'm tired of being beaten like a malcontent elf so Obama can pretend to be Santa.)
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To: kabar

“And they have locked up the WH for as far as the eye can see.”

Here’s the enemy -

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=fat+federal+DHS&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1096&bih=605&tbm=isch&tbnid=bSWQ4na6K7ihxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916863/posts&docid=4jEqednyHhEOqM&imgurl=http://yeahshesaidit.com/wp-content/uploads/big-government-fat-ass.jpg&w=500&h=326&ei=qIbbULKAJvCB0QGP6oDIDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=492&vpy=162&dur=44&hovh=181&hovw=278&tx=141&ty=85&sig=114990749991065666610&page=2&tbnh=142&tbnw=242&start=15&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0,i:138

How fast do you think they can find cover in an ambush or on a battlefield?


20 posted on 12/28/2012 3:49:41 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: SMGFan

I really hate Democrats, and will never vote for one. I also hate Republicans for bending over and allowing the Democrats to have their way with them.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 4:08:34 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SMGFan

Every day in Obama world is a nightmare. I hope the GOP shuts down the Senate if they try this.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 4:10:07 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: SMGFan
If McConnell ( and Frist too, he was also a gelding ) had any cohones they would have an Old Fashioned Fillibuster where they take the floor and talk for 24, 48, 72 hrs non-stop other than to go pee and have all members their and take turns discussing their issues or why they are against theirs...

I am so over the E-GOP when do we start our party....

23 posted on 12/28/2012 4:17:11 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: icwhatudo
Isn’t it funny how there is no “gang of 14 or whatever to defeat this when a dem is in power? When the GOP takes over, they won’t have the balls to do the same thing to the dems. They will fight for the rights of the minority.

They are one in the same. Both bought & paid for by the elites for the elites.

24 posted on 12/28/2012 4:42:41 PM PST by Digger
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To: SMGFan
When liberals don't like rules they change them. Of course, everyone has to back off so they can do their nasty business.

All that's necessary is for good men to do nothing.

25 posted on 12/28/2012 4:59:40 PM PST by Baynative
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To: SMGFan

The US government now functions like the Ukraine or Nazi Germany.

The rule of law is gone.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 6:02:02 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: 11th_VA
“The only card left for the GOP to play is push for ‘proportional’ allocation of electoral college votes in states like PA, etc.”

This should be done in all states. Then the holder of the office of President would reflect the true intent of the people, rather than the intent of large urban areas that can use voter fraud to skew elections in the winner take all format we now have.

The House reflects the feelings of the people currently, and is closer to the people (elected every two years, not six). The Senate originally was intended to reflect the wishes of state legislatures, not the electors.

Remember the red and blue voting maps, showing counties voting Republican. Even California had large red areas.

27 posted on 12/28/2012 8:27:36 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: SMGFan
Republicans say using 51 votes to change Senate procedures — and to prevent the minority party in the Senate from blocking a majority-vote — amounts to breaking the rules to change them.

Welcome to pure democracy - only now the two foxes are the Dims and the chicken is the Repugs and it's time to decide who's for dinner. Maybe they will take vigorous action instead of just caving again, but I get the feeling that they want the same things the Dims do - they just don't have the gonads to actually say it out loud. Who would have figured that the Lefties were less cowardly than the Right???

28 posted on 12/29/2012 2:59:33 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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