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What Will It Take For You To Believe?
The Ignorant Fishermen.com ^ | 12/24/12 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 12/28/2012 4:39:53 PM PST by kindred

My fellow American conservatives and those of you of the moderate conservative persuasion... May I ask you this simple question.... How "blazes" do you do it? How do you keep your sanity when everything is going off the cliff at EXPONENTIAL rates and there are absolutely NO human answers and applicable remedies in sight?.

Well... we know that you "DON'T" do it and that you are totally consumed with fear, worry and pessimism. I read it every day on your faces at work, at family gatherings, on Free Republic, on the news and media outlets etc... You are scared to death and there is no where to hide your pessimism. Your hope balloon has popped in your face and you are left with ringing ears and consumed with fear for what is at hand. Oh My dear friends, America's demise is just the tip of the HORRIFIC godless iceberg that we see in front of us (Rev. 6-19). Will you now FINALLY wake up to the Divine realities and the prophetic warnings which are found in Almighty God's INFALLIBLE Word? It is sad to say... but no you will not wake up and you will continue down your delusion until that Day over takes you. I have seen it time and time again and it is VERY VERY rare that an individual will truly repent and turn to Almighty God in spirit and truth (John 4:24). The Bible is absolutely full of countless examples and in just my little life I can testify to the validity of the Bible's examples.

May I ask you this simple question... How "blazes" do you do it? How do you keep your sanity when every thing is going off the cliff at EXPONENTIAL rates and there are NO answers and applicable remedies in sight?

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For five years (since 2008), we here at the IFB have been sounding forth political commentary with a biblical perceptive with the end result that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand! We have pointed out countless in-depth posts and analysis of our nation's absolute fractured estate, decadence, lawlessness, secularism, sex addiction, abortion, narcissism, drug addiction, socialism ideals, delusional solutions, hypocritical remedies and godless estate. It was in 2006 when the Marxist Progressives won the House and Senate after a socialistic GWB sold out conservatism and our Founding Fathers that we knew it was over and we as a nation finally crossed the tipping point. It was from then on that we began to Preach to all Americans and to the world that the Day of the Lord is at hand (Rev. 6-190! With the 2008 election victory of Barack H.Obama, America's first hard core Marxist president proved our point was proved even further and in light of all the Tea Parties, rallies, conservative optimism and energy the Left has only gotten stronger. Oh how I hate to state that reality but my dear friends stand back and look and is it not so. Then when all the evidence of Obama's disastrous four year dealing with our economy, morality and global relationships didn't matter a hill of beans to the American people after four years of this man's socialistic Marxist tyranny and we as a nation reelected this Marxist for a second term... well you might have to come to the conclusion that the jig is up by now... and it surely is. But yet clueless conservative "optimistic" scoffers abound (2 Peter 3:3) and conservative "optimistic" haters love to call us (IFB) quitters, sellouts, bigots, religious zealots, traders and allies of the Lefts agenda, Bible thumpers and my personal favorite, "ignorant". The majority of these comments come from conservatives from the largest Conservative political website forum in America, Free Republic. For the past 5 years we have been feeling the spiritual temperature there and have found that moral relativism, Biblical ignorance, conservative optimism and Christian ecumenicism dominate the forum. Thank God for Free Republic, they mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America as I do but that is not enough to aid us in our hour. Thank God that there is some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence there who help point America's conservatives to the REALITY of our hour and Almighty God's Biblical perspective, but even these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4). Tragically the dominate spirit there is one of unbelief, conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that was a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change it but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior.

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that was a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, Oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusion and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the dire question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7). These products of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need tor the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: jongaltsr

But the BIBLE does refers God as “He”.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 5:13:31 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: jongaltsr

Perhaps you need to read the Scriptures beginning at Genesis and believe God and not foolish religions and cults. Such thing as yours prove the church age is coming to and end as more foolish lies are taught as religious dogma that are totally unscriptural.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 5:17:06 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah t of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: jongaltsr

>>God is Great, God is Good,,,,,.... (Remember that child hood prayer) - it never says “He”.

He is called “Father” by His Son. Only in sodomite-infested America is “Father” no longer automatically considered to be a “he”.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 5:17:57 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: doc

“We are heading towards a ‘one world order’ controlled by the liberal elite. It is going to be a very scary scenario. Ones only salvation is God!!”

Exactly. I do not revere my country. Hell, I don’t even know it anymore. My faith is in Jesus Christ.


24 posted on 12/28/2012 5:20:07 PM PST by Student0165
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To: Biggirl

Thank you, friend.May the good Lord Jesus bless you and keep you and may the light of His countenance shine upon you and all who trust and obey Jesus, the Christ of God.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:01 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: kindred

This is one of the current modern mysteries that I simply cannot understand.

In the effort to try and understand a mystery that may not yet have an answer, there is a default tendency to simply blame Christians for “not being godly enough” or for doing this or that “wrong” or “not committed enough”. I think there are a lot of people who are genuinely committed to the cause of Christ and who are committed Christ followers.

On some level the Holy Spirit has to lead people via His Spirit and, frankly, I have not seen evidence of this, or at least to any significant degree.

I can only hazard a spiritual guess that the Lord is using this time to bring souls to Himself in places other than the West. It appears that remedying the plagues we have collectively brought upon ourselves is not of importance to the Lord.

I find great solace in Psalm 37 where these things will continue - and decline - but on balance we will be spared. Not that we won’t be impacted, but those who hold fast will make it through.

My flesh wants to make a stand. I’m not sure that’s in the Lord’s plans as he seemingly has not laid that on the hearts of others or has raised up leaders.

On one hand, I feel like I’m flailing about and not being useful. On the other hand, I am open and listening to hear and do what the Lord commands.

The bottom line to me seems to be that whatever actions are necessary must come from the urging of His Holy Spirit. This may yet come, but I do not yet see it. To blanketly blame believers for not being committed enough is simplistic and, in my opinion, not wholly accurate.

There are many who long for the leading and moving of the Holy Spirit. It is up to the Lord to prompt the hearts of men unto action.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:11 PM PST by Obadiah (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: kindred

kindred, you have no idea at all when the end times will be. None. That time could be thousands of years distant. You have no more idea when the end will be than frauds like Harold Camping - and you shouldn’t be suggesting that you do.

Human history is littered with times of great upheaval, world war, etc. This country has even had, arguable, a far more socialistic President than we do now - and FDR was elected four times and fundamentally changed this country more than Obama will probably ever do.

So your original post mostly seemed to just be one big complaint that FR wasn’t religious enough, and now you’ve gone on to claim the end is near when most reasonable people know you haven’t got a clue.


27 posted on 12/28/2012 5:26:24 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: humblegunner; kindred

Your remarks are uncalled for. According to those who hold the Bible as the inerrant Word of God, Homosexuality is counted among sins.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 5:33:38 PM PST by Obadiah (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: Longbow1969

only the father knows the day and the hour...this from Jesus should be enough to end discussion on end time speculation

how do we keep faith alive?

go to church, work hard, repent and pray

never forget the power of prayer it forges a relationship between God and his children


29 posted on 12/28/2012 5:36:31 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Longbow1969
II Peter

3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

30 posted on 12/28/2012 5:36:48 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: papertyger

I am against gun control and hold it as unconstitutional but know the democrats are neo nazis and facists.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 5:39:18 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: Obadiah

Biblical prophecy teaches of the consolation of Christ and it may or may not be the last generation before the return of Christ. Yet, Israel being back in the land for the 2nd time as God has done warns us that it may be the last generation before the coming of Christ, the lamb of God, as King of kings and Lord of lords.

Titus 2:2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 5:49:58 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: Obadiah
Your remarks are uncalled for.

Wrong, Obie. The poster "wrote" abysmally.

Lack of capitalization and punctuation are the marks of illiterate fools.

Try to pay attention.

33 posted on 12/28/2012 5:52:49 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: kindred

“The Ignorant Fishermen”? I don’t know about the “Fishermen” but the rest, including the “The” fits perfectly.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 5:58:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Winstons Julia

Another related illusion is the idea that the USA is the whole world — and seeing it fail equates to the whole-world crisis foretold in prophecy. No it isn’t; and it likely doesn’t. Christianity is a whole-world thing. Great nations rise and they fall; that’s boringly normal.


35 posted on 12/28/2012 6:15:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: kindred
America is at the Alamo and we do not know how much time we have before the corruption and economic instability of DC tax and spend politicians will break Americas back and destroy our once great Christian influenced nation.

Ummm....those that defended the Alamo lost. I, for one, do not intend to lose. Nor give an inch. A foot. A yard. A mile. Nothing.

Those who would oppose me and would seek to disarm or neuter me to make me a slave of the state...begging for scraps on my knees as a serf will get nothing and like it...or get far worse whether they like it or not.

36 posted on 12/28/2012 6:16:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I acknowledge that it is possible that the time is near. But no one knows the day or hour...

I believe there are indications in the Bible that the whole world must be exposed to the Gospel before it happens. I do not know that this has happened yet.

Fretting about it won’t serve any purpose. It may well be that the Lord has plans for this Earth before He returns.

I will continue to live my life. If it all ends tomorrow, I’ll see you in Heaven.


37 posted on 12/28/2012 6:29:34 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Some bible translation ministries are guesstimating that it will need only a few more decades until there is a bible in every still living language on earth; then such preaching will be possible. Progress has been greatly accelerated (not too long ago this task was projected at over a hundred years) by the advent of powerful computer software that takes the place of the old boxes of index cards, and which can generate draft translations very quickly for human review and refinement. Translations in similar languages also help the computer make better guesses about how to handle translations in new languages.


38 posted on 12/28/2012 6:36:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: doc
We are heading towards a ‘one world order’ controlled by the liberal elite.

That's what THEY think.

39 posted on 12/28/2012 6:38:20 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kindred

All those words just to whine that the average FReeper isn’t religious enough for you? I suppose if you have that much time on your hands, no harm done.


40 posted on 12/28/2012 6:54:41 PM PST by Melas (u)
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