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Some illegal immigrants fear applying for licenses
Northwest Herald ^ | December 28, 2012 | SOPHIA TAREEN - Associated Press

Posted on 12/28/2012 5:10:12 PM PST by mdittmar

CHICAGO (AP) — When Illinois' top political leaders touted a proposal to allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses, it was painted as public safety measure and had the backing of immigrant rights advocates, who deemed it a positive step in the fight for immigration reform.

But the idea has run into some resistance among illegal immigrants themselves.

For many of Illinois' estimated 250,000 undocumented residents of driving age, volunteering an address, photograph and birth certificate to a state database seems like a risk, possibly more than driving without a license.

"They will have my record, maybe one day they (authorities) will just stop me," said 19-year-old Faviola Villagomez, who was brought illegally to the U.S. from Mexico as a child. The Chicago college student said she'd be hesitant to apply because it could make her and her six siblings — none of whom are citizens — more easily identifiable for deportation.


(Excerpt) Read more at nwherald.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: driverslicense; illegal; illegalaliens; illinois
Snort,chorttle,guffaw;)
1 posted on 12/28/2012 5:10:17 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

It is truly sickening how the leftist press makes martyrs of those guilty of multiple criminal acts. If the media showed 1/10TH the concern for REAL Americans, we might just improve this country.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 5:15:19 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: mdittmar
'Illinois' estimated 250,000 undocumented'

Dam. Nice little army ya got there.

3 posted on 12/28/2012 5:17:13 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Amberdawn

Do the illegals have to take driving lessons before getting a license or do they just get into a car and move it a few feet?

Also, do they have to have mandatory car insurance?

Do they have to sign any forms that ask whether they are citizens of the US or not? The reason for this question is that it used to be that foreigners had to fill out additional information in order to get a temporary license to drive in the U.S. Don’t know if this policy is still in effect or not. Would be interesting to find out if so, and where.

250,000 illegals in and around Chicago. No wonder the city is a shithole. Add to this all the hispanic and black gangbangers and you have thousands of organized crime members living there, robbing and killing there, and not paying taxes.

Good job you did Daley. Good job you are doing Rahm. Keep it up. You’ll reach the 500 murders count by New Year’s Day.

Chicago, it makes a loaded toilet seem clean.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 5:26:17 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mdittmar

To the headline: then go the hell back to your home country!!!!!


5 posted on 12/28/2012 5:26:29 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: mdittmar

By all rights they should fear for their lives.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 5:26:59 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: mdittmar

Illegals would never get to the point of fearing licensing requirements in the US if all they had to fear were the minefields, triple concertina, 30 ft walls and withering interlocking fire from machine guns along the border. They could then concentrate their efforts on obtaining a license from Mexico.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 5:29:23 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Theoria

‘Illinois’ estimated 250,000 undocumented’

Through the breeding of, or importation of constituents, the rat party is near its goal; the destruction of our republic.

No peace in hell I hope for the Pig Kennedy.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 5:31:38 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: mdittmar

9 posted on 12/28/2012 5:31:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: mdittmar
GOOD!! LEAVE!! Photobucket
10 posted on 12/28/2012 5:32:07 PM PST by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Shitcago had #500 last night.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 5:39:44 PM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: mdittmar

Ah bwess dem scared widdle law breaking hearts.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 5:46:56 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: mdittmar
Poor illegals!
And of course there is also the extra added bonus expenses of vehicle insurance and annual registration to consider....

Snort, chortle, guffaw, ROTFLMAO!

I hear that even Canada is no longer operating under an open door policy anymore ...
Perhaps their experience with the various foreign crime cartels and mafias of illegal immigrants has soured their opinions and concerns for the sainted “just looking for a better life for the children” invader excuses.

13 posted on 12/28/2012 5:46:56 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: mdittmar; allen

But...But...Sean Hannity says we need to give illegal aliens amnesty...or they won’t vote GOP


14 posted on 12/28/2012 5:56:13 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: mdittmar; allen

But...But...Sean Hannity says we need to give illegal aliens amnesty...or they won’t vote GOP


15 posted on 12/28/2012 5:56:36 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

They’re allowed to drive a course drunk off their ass. If they hit only 9 of 10 cones or less they get a license.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 6:08:13 PM PST by albie
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To: mdittmar

AAWWWW...... That is just to “Frigging” bad.

—— but appropriate somehow.

I know how - and I think most clear thinking humans will figure it out.

WaHHH. Boo Hoo is my response...


17 posted on 12/28/2012 6:16:18 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Very good questions. Knowing the limp wristed lefty NGO types, they let the illegals pass.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 6:19:34 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: MarineBrat

Amen. This would be so in any other country that was decent and being invaded.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 6:31:42 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Amberdawn

Unfortunately illegals as drivers kill innocent people, citizen and non-citizen, but not many liberals.

If a few ACLU types, or leftist academics, or Rahm Emanuel’s cohorts were mowed down in the street or on a sidewalk, you might (when pigs fly and shit gold bricks), see a slight change in attitudes towards illegals as drivers.

However, the innocent are the ones who get plowed, not the lefties who live in gated communities, or hi-rise condos with private security, and shop in upscale stores where illegals never go.

When was the last time a lefty professor got run over? An ACLU lawyer? A Democratic Party official?

God has got to spread the pain around. A “diversity” (as Obama would say) of victims is needed.

I would call it “justice redistribution”.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 6:43:09 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mdittmar

Part of the problem is that they already have fake identification and have used that to get licenses under a different name. So, when they go to get licenses under their real names, the computers now run a photo match check to see if the same person has applied for licenses under different names. Voila, they get investigated for ID theft and have to answer to a judge about why they’ve done this. This happens in Indiana all the time when a former illegal gets legal.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 7:12:34 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Jacquerie

Look at the silver lining. When the U.S. turns into aa socialist hellhole the illegals will all go back to Mexico.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 7:34:57 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: mdittmar; Liz

but some illegal aliens have no fear in driving without licenses or insurance...


23 posted on 12/28/2012 7:51:56 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: mdittmar

Let’s see now... address, check, photograph,, check, birth certificate...we don’t need a stinking birth certificate!


24 posted on 12/28/2012 7:52:09 PM PST by madrastex
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To: mdittmar

Let’s see now... address, check, photograph,, check, birth certificate...we don’t need a stinking birth certificate!


25 posted on 12/28/2012 7:52:27 PM PST by madrastex
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To: philetus
Look at the silver lining. When the U.S. turns into aa socialist hellhole the illegals will all go back to Mexico.

But they like socialist hellholes! You ever been to a neighborhood transformed into a ghetto by illegals? It's ugly, but it's their ugly.

26 posted on 12/28/2012 7:55:03 PM PST by roadcat
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Lol! I like the way you put that! It’s so true.


27 posted on 12/28/2012 8:07:15 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: mdittmar

Some? As in three? Ha, none of them are scared of anything because they have real US citizens over a barrel.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 8:13:25 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: mdittmar
All you illegals go back to where you came from and you will have no fear about applying for a license!
29 posted on 12/28/2012 8:14:43 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Amberdawn

The interesting thing is that they understand the principle that “whatever the government gives, they can also take away. ;)


30 posted on 12/28/2012 9:01:57 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (q\\)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yes, and our dilemma is that while they can move back home if things go down the tube, we have to stay and pick up the pieces of a mess partly attributable to them.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 9:07:02 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: mdittmar

They should just use their license from their home country. They don’t need a license from here.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 10:35:58 PM PST by marron
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To: mdittmar

If only they had a bit of fear about being caught and sent back to the paradises they came from...


33 posted on 12/29/2012 3:20:10 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Grampa Dave; TADSLOS; La Lydia; raybbr; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
....19-year-old Chicagoan, Mexican Faviola Villagomez, who was (cough) brought here illegally as a child---and is now a freeloading Chicago college student----said it could make her and her six siblings — none of whom are citizens — more easily identifiable for deportation.....

Habla again---ya'mean Senor Mayor Rhamos would actually deport all those non-English speaking Democrats registered "and voting"------again and again under multiple names? Which is how Ohaha got reelected.

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The REAL problem is they are all riding the US gravy train using multiple identites the "impoverished latinos bought for several thousand dollars each. Each identity gets freebies by the carload----and is sucking off the backs of real Americans. And the suckers don't want to queer the profitable scam.

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As REAGANSSHINYHAIR insightfully posted above----Part of the problem is that they already have fake ID's that they used to get licenses under different names....which also allows them to vote. So, by getting licenses under their real names, state computers run a photo-match check to see if the same person has applied under different names. Voila, they get investigated for ID theft and have to answer to a judge---and get prosecuted under US law. This frequently happens in Indiana when a former illegal gets legal.

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NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

34 posted on 12/29/2012 5:35:26 AM PST by Liz
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To: mdittmar

To the headline: DAMN RIGHT they SHOULD be afraid!!! At least they realize they are breaking at least one law being here illegally.


35 posted on 12/29/2012 5:46:02 AM PST by jughandle
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