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Two rocket launchers at gun buyback didn't surprise LAPD chief
latimes.com ^ | December 28, 2012 | Richard Winton

Posted on 12/28/2012 8:43:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck was not surprised that the city's gun buyback event this week collected two rocket launchers.

Beck said he's used to military-style weapons being turned in at such events. He noted that neither of the launchers had rockets in them so they did not pose a danger.

Still, he said such weapons have no place on the streets of L.A.

"Those are weapons of war, weapons of death," Beck said. "These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns. These are made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds down-range as quickly as possible, and they have no place in our great city."

The buyback yielded 2,037 firearms, including 75 assault weapons and two rocket launchers, officials said. The total was nearly 400 more weapons than were collected in a similar buyback earlier this year.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said the collection at two locations was so successful that the city ran out of money for supermarket gift cards and got a private donation through the city controller to replenish the pot.

The gun buyback was moved up from its usual Mother's Day date in response to the massacre Dec. 14 that claimed the lives of 26 people, including 20 students, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

"As you can see to my right and left, these weren't just guns that weren't functioning anymore," Villaraigosa said at a news conference Thursday morning. "These were serious guns — semiautomatic weapons, guns that have no place on the streets of Los Angeles or any other city."

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TOPICS: US: California
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1 posted on 12/28/2012 8:43:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He is wrong. We do need rocket launchers and more if we are to protect ourselves from an out of control government that has them too.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 8:45:58 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

At the Pomona gun shows I saw people selling the one-use launch tubes for military antitank rockets. You can’t reload them or anything, they are just tubes with handles once the ordinance is gone. An expensive wall hanger.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 8:52:03 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Tailgunner Joe
These were serious guns — semiautomatic weapons, guns that have no place on the streets of Los Angeles

What exactly does it mean for there to be weapons "on the streets"?
4 posted on 12/28/2012 8:52:20 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So, they insist an rpg7 is unfit for hunting? I beg to differ. Big enough game, and they’re just right.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 8:55:13 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: cableguymn
We do need rocket launchers and more if we are to protect ourselves from an out of control government that has them

We need nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, bombers, tanks

6 posted on 12/28/2012 8:56:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Hardraade

If you’re hunting tanks, you’d want one. The old Molotov cocktail doesn’t work that well anymore.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 8:57:57 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I saw one of the CNN idiots wetting her panties about this. I knew she was talking about useless empty tubes. Do they have no editors at all.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 9:01:48 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“”Those are weapons of war, weapons of death,” Beck said. “These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns. These are made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds down-range as quickly as possible, and they have no place in our great city.” “

Weapons of death that are extremely deadly, he said. Is there any other kind?


9 posted on 12/28/2012 9:02:32 PM PST by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

...no wonder Ronnie Barrett told them to shove off...


10 posted on 12/28/2012 9:03:24 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I wonder how much he’d pay me for my empty brass. After all, it’s “...made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds down-range as quickly as possible...”


11 posted on 12/28/2012 9:03:36 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck... said such weapons have no place on the streets of L.A. "Those are weapons of war, weapons of death," Beck said. "These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns. These are made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds down-range as quickly as possible, and they have no place in our great city."

The 2nd Amendment does not protect the right to sporting goods.

Those "weapons of war" are to kill and destroy standing armies, such as those in the employ of Chief Beck, should they infringe on the liberties of the people using force.

Our Founders would have used those rocket launchers already.

This post will probably get deleted, but it's high time we patriot gun owners stopped hiding among with the Fudds and proudly proclaim what the 2nd Amendment is for.

12 posted on 12/28/2012 9:05:46 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Army is getting rid of M16s all the time (old ones), body armor (PSGAT old stuff), PVS4 etc... all the time.

Can I get one of those? I the tax payer bought a bit of it and sure would like a chance at buying one, we are after all selling every other weapon system known to God to anyone that can pay, so why can't I buy one?

If we sell F16s to Egypt and Pakistan today, we “gave” chem weapons to Saddam and then complained when he used them... Hell, the Iranians fly our F14 and F4 to this day! They also have our Hawk missile system, M109s... I am a US tax payer, not an Islamic fanatic and I would like to have a chance at buying some of those military items we sell to others and which I paid for with my tax money.

13 posted on 12/28/2012 9:08:04 PM PST by Red6
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To: ozzymandus

SHe’s just being that way for hype. Probably has no clue and her editors want it that way, it plays to the camera better.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 9:14:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

ok. if you got the cash and know how to use them.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 9:14:39 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: ozzymandus

The picture I saw was of the LAPD police chief holding up an AT-4 tube with “training” written on it. The police bought an inert training tube, not a real rocket launcher.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 9:23:24 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

all B.S....it was accumulated trash that someone came by somehow.....if you collect 1 rocket launcher, and 50 rockets, you have a find....1 launcher and no rockets....junk!!


17 posted on 12/28/2012 9:25:19 PM PST by terycarl
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To: ozzymandus

I suppose a gangster could bludgeon someone to death with it. But wouldn’t a baseball bat or a length of 2 x 4 be more effective?


18 posted on 12/28/2012 9:26:50 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Discarded LAW’s —fiberglass tubes. Big deal, they look impressive but are completely innocuous.

They only impress people who know NOTHING about them. Of course that’s ALL presstitutes...


19 posted on 12/28/2012 9:27:15 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

When I was in Texas, I was looking for an old M72 LAW to keep in my rifle rack, (an empty tube of course).


20 posted on 12/28/2012 9:39:14 PM PST by ansel12
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To: cableguymn

He is wrong. We do need rocket launchers and more if we are to protect ourselves from an out of control government that has them too.

You’re right!!!!


21 posted on 12/28/2012 9:44:05 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So the idiots pay hundreds for a couple of empty pipes.

Excuse me, “Weapons of War”.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 9:45:34 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: cableguymn

He’s doubly-wrong: Beck is the a-hole who activity prefers illegal aliens “rights” over the rights of citizens - people like him are setting up the war where those weapons will be missed.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 10:12:36 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: cableguymn

Crap..I gave my grandkids a expended LAW tube a few years back.That must make me an arms dealer. Yes they are dangerous my 6yo grandchild hit his 4yo brother over the head with it that took a couple stitches to fix.


24 posted on 12/28/2012 10:16:55 PM PST by Jackalope Hunter (Happiness is a belt fed weapon, Heaven is some good Enfilade.)
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To: Jackalope Hunter
Actually, I believe the M72 launchers could be reloaded. As I recall, Ordinance fitted expended M72 launch tubes with 25 mm liners and sub-munitions for training purposes. I remember loading them on the range before firing; it took a screw-driver.

And the 66mm shaped charge round for the LAW and the LAAW was not the only 66 mm rocket propelled round in the inventory. The Marine Corps had a 4 barreled launcher for 66 mm incendiary rockets. And there was a 6 or 8 barreled launcher for 66 mm tear gas rockets for riot control. I could not say how interchangeable these different munitions were, but I suspect they could be adapted.

I do not know if the AT4 can be reloaded; that came after my time.

On the other claw, if one has a source for 66 mm rocket propelled missiles, what is the point of reloading old M72 tubes? The shaped charged anti-tank rounds come in their launch tubes. The napalm loaded incendiary rounds are no longer used, and so not available, like all the other napalm munitions. The tear gas rounds were low velocity, short range weapons. And if one is making one’s own rockets, it would be no problem to make one’s own launchers.

I suspect that the LAPD chief is just pissed because while rocket launchers are poor anti-personnel weapons, they would neutralize police SWAT armored vehicles.

25 posted on 12/28/2012 11:14:20 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: davetex
Well, since the Donkey socialists/Marxists, POTUS and the Executive Branch, RINOs, blacks, Latinos, and Muslims want a CW2, then the RPG-7V launchers and reloads are exactly what's needed. Especially when Homeland Security unleashes its new, armored APC trucks on America's neighborhoods.

Personally, I prefer an M20A1B1 3.5-inch rocket launcher, an M40A1 106mm recoilless rifle and a couple pallets of ammo or several of M72 LAWs. Those would keep the scumbags at bay.

26 posted on 12/28/2012 11:30:47 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If the rocket launcher was for a LAW, it is not a long range weapon. I knew a guy who won a Bronze Star for taking out a VC bunker with one. He did not take out a forest or mountain. They were not made for that and had a limited range and purpose.

Give me an RPG7 any day for long distance as well as up-close fighting. The commies were way ahead of us in light carry rockets, and they carried the rockets in a 6 pack. A Law was a one-tie throw away launching tube. If you missed on the first shot, you were shit out of luck.

Boy this Police Chief is dumb.


27 posted on 12/29/2012 12:09:58 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns. These are made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds down-range as quickly as possible, and they have no place in our great city."

The Left are MASTERS at establishing the parameters of discussion. They arbitrarily decide that the Second Amendment applies only to hunting and target arms, they then repeat it ad infinitum and suddenly the Second Amendment reads...the right of the people to keep and bear arms suitable for hunting shall not be infringed".
28 posted on 12/29/2012 3:22:50 AM PST by 762X51
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To: 762X51
The Left are MASTERS at establishing the parameters of discussion.

Notice how they also include the terms "high-velocity" "high-power" and "long-range" into the discussion?

They set the table for the next round....going after "sniper rifles", "high-powered" rifles that can penetrate body armor and "long-range" weapons that can kill from a mile away.

Facts need not apply.

29 posted on 12/29/2012 6:07:13 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Uncased projectiles like the RPG have often proved deadly for their operators. The US decided long ago that cased proejctiles in sealed, disposable launchers offered the greatest shelf life and safety for the operator. If you can carry two RPG rounds, you can carry two LAW rockets. Although, the AT4 is a little bulky.


30 posted on 12/29/2012 6:08:10 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So if I buy a piece of PVC pipe, spray paint it brown, stick a wooden handle on it, and cover that in black duct tape, think these idiots would let me turn it in as a “rocket launcher” and get free stuff?

Apparently...


31 posted on 12/29/2012 6:11:31 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And in the next riot many a husband will run to the closet to get his gun and find it missing because the wife turned in a $700.00 firearm for a $100.00 gift card.

Question: If turning in a firearm and getting killed in the next riot, does it qualify you for a DARWIN AWARD?


32 posted on 12/29/2012 8:33:56 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: davetex
Weapons of death that are extremely deadly, he said. Is there any other kind?

The kind that doesn't work, I guess! ;)

33 posted on 12/29/2012 8:39:24 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ozzymandus
I saw one of the CNN idiots wetting her panties about this. I knew she was talking about useless empty tubes. Do they have no editors at all.

Sure they have editors.

The desired response is to get as many people as possible forming puddles around their feet.

Nevermind that the "rocket launcher", whether a demilled bazooka or an RPG launcher is useless without rockets, even if the device i a one-use tube, they'll milk it for every set of wrecked underwear they can get.

The war against the 2nd Amendment and our Constitution cannot be won in a rational environment, so the media have done all they can to make the arguments as emotional and irrational as possible.

34 posted on 12/29/2012 8:46:21 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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