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Woman Accused of Hate-Crime Murder in Subway Push
New York Times ^ | December 29, 2012 | MARC SANTORA

Posted on 12/29/2012 2:39:38 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Mr. Brown said that the woman was motivated by hatred, telling the police, that she “pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up.”

Ms. Menendez conflated the Muslim and Hindu faiths both in her comments to the police and in her target for attack, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hatecrime; hindu; india; menendez; muslim; subway
Any Tweets from Hollywood?
1 posted on 12/29/2012 2:39:48 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

So if it had been a white guy she murdered no hate crime?


2 posted on 12/29/2012 2:41:56 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It was a muslim killed?
Watch for riots soon. Somewhere.


3 posted on 12/29/2012 2:44:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

No, a Hindu. From the article:

The victim, Sunando Sen, was born in India and, according to a roommate, was raised Hindu.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 2:45:23 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: ColdOne
She's probably one of those “white” Hispanics.
5 posted on 12/29/2012 2:45:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: All
So once she got done hiding, she couldn't wait to incriminate herself??

This story is very suspect, - - how come every single news story these days just so happens to advance the moonbat's 'have-you-hugged-a-muslim-today' narrative??
6 posted on 12/29/2012 2:47:16 PM PST by trailz
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To: ColdOne
No, it would have been a demonstration of social justice for a legitimate race grievance against an oppressive privileged group.
7 posted on 12/29/2012 2:47:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Navy Patriot
CNN’s Don Lemon asked a few days ago if it is time to profile white men. It hasn’t been a good week for women of color: Las Vegas, New york City, the firefighters ambush. Where is Don Lemon?
8 posted on 12/29/2012 2:48:29 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I am sure she will be by the end of the next news cycle!


9 posted on 12/29/2012 2:49:04 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

A few weeks ago an African pushed an Asian in front of a subway. No hate crime. Muslims are the new gays.


10 posted on 12/29/2012 2:56:27 PM PST by y6162
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To: ConservativeStatement

The man was Hindu..... Her statement was she was angry about the 9 / 11 attacks on the towers....Blamed Muslims and Hindus....don’t understand why she hates Hindus....

Probably simply a mental case....NYC is over flowing with wackcos that need to be insitutionized....

I have a relative living in the city, her family has been trying for 30 years to get her into a facility.... But she needs to hurt herself or someone first before the courts will even consider it....


11 posted on 12/29/2012 2:57:40 PM PST by JZoback
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To: ColdOne
So if it had been a white guy she murdered no hate crime?

Well, DUH!

12 posted on 12/29/2012 3:02:44 PM PST by null and void (Socialism: Equal parts dumb and evil, in a blender.)
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To: ColdOne

yeppers


13 posted on 12/29/2012 3:02:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JZoback

Just another nut running loose among the public.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 3:11:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If you’re gonna do it, do it. But jeez, don’t talk about it stupid woman!


15 posted on 12/29/2012 3:25:56 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica
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To: JZoback

People are amazingly stupid. There were quite a few people here who confused the two, which was NOT very good for the Indian people during 9/11.


16 posted on 12/29/2012 3:33:30 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Heard Bloomberg wants to ban hands. There will be mandatory buback that will cost the taxpayers 50 Billion.

Sarcasm of course.


17 posted on 12/29/2012 4:05:42 PM PST by 30Moves
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To: ConservativeStatement
It hasn’t been a good week for women of color

It certainly hasn’t been a good week for colored women.

18 posted on 12/29/2012 4:06:04 PM PST by Isabel C.
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To: ConservativeStatement

So not only are Hindus being attacked by Mohammedans for being Hindu, but are killed by crazy people who confuse them for Mohammedans. Pray for this world.


19 posted on 12/29/2012 4:10:15 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: y6162

And Non Muslims are the new Nazis. No sarcasm.


20 posted on 12/29/2012 4:29:12 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: JZoback
The man was Hindu..... Her statement was she was angry about the 9 / 11 attacks on the towers....Blamed Muslims and Hindus....don’t understand why she hates Hindus....

Maybe they all look alike to Hispanic women.

21 posted on 12/29/2012 4:38:50 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: seowulf

Just take her down to the Subway and push her off!


22 posted on 12/29/2012 5:05:07 PM PST by Conserev1
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’ll call BS on her actually having said this as reported. As mentioned above, it fits the narrative far too conveniently. I would imagine the mayor and police decided what would be the most politically useful motive and simply coerced this nutcase into admitting to it.


23 posted on 12/29/2012 6:36:39 PM PST by TruthBeforeAll
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To: ConservativeStatement

I think white Hispanics can be charged with hate crimes ... I think it’s part of “Holder’s Law” as given by the Anointed One of Chicago on faux stone tablets.


24 posted on 12/29/2012 7:28:21 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Again, WHY the crime was committed is irrelevant. THAT the crime was committed is all that matters.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 6:52:28 AM PST by dbeall
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To: ConservativeStatement

> “...because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when
> they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up.”

Muslim terrorists perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. This woman is incredibly ignorant. Did the MSM propaganda push the idea that Hindus and Muslims both were responsible for 9/11?


26 posted on 12/30/2012 9:16:39 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

There are mostly two kinds of Americans. Ones that love Muslims and then ones that hate both Hindus and Muslims. So you and me......either ways we are screwed.


27 posted on 12/30/2012 9:43:15 AM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager

We Are All Hindus Now

Aug 14, 2009 8:00 PM EDT

Excerpt:

America is not a Christian nation. We are, it is true, a nation founded by Christians, and according to a 2008 survey, 76 percent of us continue to identify as Christian (still, that’s the lowest percentage in American history). Of course, we are not a Hindu—or Muslim, or Jewish, or Wiccan—nation, either. A million-plus Hindus live in the United States, a fraction of the billion who live on Earth. But recent poll data show that conceptually, at least, we are slowly becoming more like Hindus and less like traditional Christians in the ways we think about God, our selves, each other, and eternity.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/08/14/we-are-all-hindus-now.html


28 posted on 12/30/2012 9:56:38 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi
In the entire US I think there was one case of someone being killed in retaliation for the 9/11 attacks--a Sikh man wearing a turban was killed in Arizona, I think it was, by some idiot who saw the turban and assumed it meant that the man was a Muslim.

Back in the 1980s there was a case of a Chinese-American man who was killed in Michigan by an unemployed auto worker who thought the man was Japanese and blamed the Japanese for the fact he did not have a job.

29 posted on 12/30/2012 2:06:51 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Sikhs say attacks on community are ‘collateral damage’ of 9/11

As Sikhs confront Wisconsin temple shooting tragedy, members of the community reflect on 11 years of ‘Bin Laden’ taunts and misunderstanding

August 5, 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/06/sikj-abuse-america-911


30 posted on 12/30/2012 2:26:13 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Wrong, plenty of Indians have been attacked, killed and beaten since 9/11.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/269693/sikhs-have-faced-over-700.html

And then there was the Wisconsin temple shoot out. Not even Muslims have been subject to that much brutality since 9/11.


31 posted on 12/30/2012 9:05:08 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Jyotishi

I am not so much convinced it is “collateral damage” anymore. Attacks on Hindus and Sikhs are not so much a case of mistaken identity as we all like to believe. We are legitimate target. Even more so then Muslims.


32 posted on 12/30/2012 9:10:35 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

And she did it! Just not to a Muslim but a Hindu.
Good job huh?


33 posted on 12/30/2012 9:17:19 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: dbeall

It’s relevant to me. I belong to the same faith as the victim. If there are loonies out there who would consider me to be a legitimate target because if my faith I would definitely like to know.


34 posted on 12/30/2012 9:22:56 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: The Antiyuppie

I don’t think she was “confusing” anything. She hated Hindus. She got the Hindu.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 9:41:03 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager

You may be right. This just in:

Andhra Pradesh man found dead in US, homicide probe launched

PTI
DNA
Monday, December 31, 2012

Washington, DC - An Indian man hailing from Andhra Pradesh, who used to run a liquor store in the US, was found dead at the shop under suspicious circumstances and police have opened a homicide investigation. Venkat Reddy-Goli, 47, was found dead by the police inside the Central Liquors store in Colerain Township of Ohio having a population of some 60,000.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_andhra-pradesh-man-found-dead-in-us-homicide-probe-launched_1783655


36 posted on 12/30/2012 10:07:35 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: ravager

Even if one didn’t belong to the same faith as the victim one would be a target of violence by a total stranger, but yes, persons who don’t look like the majority in a given community, think like them or are a part of a different faith are at a much greater risk — especially in a country where even college graduates know little about the world outside their own well.


37 posted on 12/30/2012 10:15:30 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: ravager
The fact that she did it is irrelevant to me. I don't have a dog in this fight.

I'm just astounded that even the lowest-grade of low-grade morons would even mention race/religion/ethnicity or the whole laundry list of lefty protected voters/groups that can get a hate crime charge launched at ya and double or triple your sentence. Talk about dumb.

38 posted on 12/31/2012 12:56:50 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sounds like a stupid woman who could not properly identify another culture.
Thats where the SHTF is gonna make a big mark, these crazed entitlement recipients losing their hopey changy and taking it out on anything blindly, its a shame the person was Hindu, I think they are nice harmless people against the other faith like Islam.


39 posted on 12/31/2012 1:18:33 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
I dont have a dog in this fight either. I am neither white nor Muslim. The race factor however does become relevant for me if someone is after my @ss because of race.

It seems to me the that, what is bothering you more is the fact that she blurted out her prejudice not the crime she actually committed. Seems to me you would have preferred if she had just quietly done what she did and not opened her mouth.

I am happy she came out with the truth. I much prefer an open honest racist then a slimy closeted coward who tries to play it smart.

40 posted on 12/31/2012 12:53:44 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Eye of Unk

“Sounds like a stupid woman who could not properly identify another culture?”

I dont think she was stupid. She was after Hindus. She knew who Hindus were and correctly identified her target.


41 posted on 12/31/2012 12:57:49 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager

It’s not relevant to what kind of punishment one should receive. I cannot support punishing thought. I believe we should punish crimes. When we make thought a crime, it’s a slippery slope. Plus it’s not equally applied. How many black on white crimes are the result of black racism toward whites? You’ll never see that called a hate crime.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 7:07:59 AM PST by dbeall
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To: dbeall

It’s not a thought. That girl killed a person. No one cares what evil thoughts you may have as long as you don’t act up on them. When you commit a crime your thoughts and motives are very much relevant to the case, which is why you have criminal investigation. You establish a motive for a crime. That is how every legal system works. Or else we could just hand out death sentences to every murderer and save us all the trouble.

In case of this girl, she killed a random stranger for no apparent reason. It’s important to know if she was completely insane which would call for a lesser punishment. Or if it was a hate crime, that would call for a more sever punishment. It’s important to draw that distinction if you want to have a fair and just legal system.


43 posted on 01/02/2013 10:13:10 AM PST by ravager (I)
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