Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

India..Brilliantly Industrious/Incredibly Barbaric
Dec,30,2012 | Floyd A. Logan

Posted on 12/30/2012 4:16:03 AM PST by San Rafael Blue

A young girl in India was attacked by a small gang of local youths. This girl was assaulted ,tortured with a metal rod. The rod was used to beat and sodomize her. Perhaps mercifully, the teenage girl died this week while being hospitalized for severe internal injuries plus numerous infections.

Her family and neighbbors are outraged. There is suspicion that the crimes are going to be ignored, with police aiding the cover-up. There were many outbreaks of violence earlier this week. Many conclude that the accusers will probably not be punished with any level of severity if the public does not demand rapid and obvious justice.

I find it sad and startling that this attitude toward women, or toward any other human being is tolerated, presumed and defended in this day and age. I know or have known many people from India, the majority have impressed me as being very intelligent and perceptive.

Don't we Americans already depend on them for phone-in Customer Service? That's just one example. Sure, that accent may be heavy at times, but for the most part, these people do know what their talking about, enough to break it down a explain to an inrate, spoiled american consumer.

So this same culture when not being nagged about Human Rights, when not being tattled on by the Red Cross, reverts back to the caste way of thinking. Different classes of people deserve varying degrees of compassion or legal represenation. I know, some countries will say the same abous us in the US of A. Well, at least our court system is not as blatant in it,s occasional duplicity. This savagery disturbs me, I thought that it was Pakistan that was the inpredictable 'wild child', where they riot fullbore over nothing, where barbarity rules the day and the night. Maybe India is so big, as with China, that its' going to take years, if not decades for all the lands of India to become more modern.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: india; rapevictimdeath; vanity

1 posted on 12/30/2012 4:16:10 AM PST by San Rafael Blue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

Inrate, spoiled Americans? Spell check, please!


2 posted on 12/30/2012 4:21:17 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein

Spell check? How about English Composition 101. This is pathetic.


3 posted on 12/30/2012 4:38:31 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue; All

Another Free Trader Globalist trying to spin about India

India is...and will always be....a backward Third World Craphole...no matter how many American jobs you ship over there. Globalists need to stop cheer-leading for India


4 posted on 12/30/2012 5:03:12 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein
"Inrate": New slang word in Ind-glish meaning irate, ungrateful American.

/s

5 posted on 12/30/2012 5:09:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

Nothing has brought, and is bringing, India along so quickly in these matters as its new-found economic strength.

Yes, it still has many ‘backward’ and barbaric practices, but they are at least on the decline. Also, there are other ways in which India has long been culturally advanced.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 5:19:52 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

Apart from a small, emergent, Westernized middle class concentrated around Mumbai and New Delhi, most of India remains a backward, premodern society.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 6:10:28 AM PST by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

“Sure, that accent may be heavy at times, but for the most part, these people do know what their talking about, enough to break it down a explain to an inrate, spoiled american consumer.”

Well, if they don’t like spoiled Americans they don’t need the job. I’ve worked around a lot of Indians in the IT world and they are not supermen, we’ve just been propagandized into believing that Americans are crap by the people who benefit from cheap labor. I’m on the phone with Indians every day and I really don’t have the time to spend figuring out what they’re saying or going through checklists or dealing with a cultural disconnect.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 6:41:50 AM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

In the case of India, which has long mastered the art of religious rioting, anti-crime vigilantism would definitely be a big step up.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 7:13:59 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeminoleCounty

So What you called US of A then ? every day shooting going while am typing this post .Childrens get killed at Point Blank ,women get assaulted Etc etc!? so much for a developed God Own Country .


10 posted on 12/30/2012 7:38:18 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: San Rafael Blue

Just kill the rapists. Sodomize them with knives and then beat them to death. Then maybe the police and courts will get what they need to do.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 8:04:09 AM PST by montag813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux; RightOnline

The guy who wrote this garbage is a whitey not an Indian.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 9:53:55 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yeah right, step up. Barbaric India recently carried out a trial and hanged a Muslim terrorist. Civilized and freedom loving America recently granted immunity to a Muslim terrorist. Tell me about step up.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 9:58:43 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yeah right, step up. Barbaric India recently carried out a trial and hanged a Muslim terrorist. Civilized and freedom loving America recently granted immunity to a Muslim terrorist. Tell me about step up.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 9:58:53 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

Who in the world doesn’t like spoiled Americans?
Btw while I don’t consider Americans to supermen either this garbage piece was written by an American not Indian. No need to get so worked up over one of your own kind spewing about you.


15 posted on 12/30/2012 10:06:52 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

Well someday India will be very advanced and hopefully we will see mass shootings more often, especially small children inside schools. Not just one odd rape murders. Until then India will be backward and barbaric.


16 posted on 12/30/2012 10:13:11 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ravager

As I said, they are in some ways quite advanced.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 11:57:44 PM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ravager

Vigilantism happens when government either doesn’t protect the citizenry from criminal, or worse, takes the side of criminals against the citizenry. More than anything else it is a plea to government to do its job.

Importantly, vigilantism ends if government steps up to the plate and does what it is supposed to do. If this means hanging, that fits the bill.

However, in gigantic India, since 1995, the death penalty has only been used three times. And I truly doubt that just the death penalty, rarely used, is adequate as far as the Indian public are concerned, in stopping not just the capital criminals, but all the other violent criminals.

And this is where vigilantism comes into play, to provide law and order. A great secret of America is its second amendment, in that because there is far more land than there are police to patrol it, every armed citizen in effect, *has* to enforce the law themselves, when they have to.

This is the very essence of vigilantism. To imagine that the police are not the keepers of all law and order, but are the employees of the public, a convenience, so that the public do not have to be vigilant at all times. As such, they are both security guards, to deter crime at inconvenient times and places, and detectives willing to spend the time to pursue criminals acts after the fact.

And this elaborate description is to explain why vigilantism would be a major step up from tribal and religious rioting, embracing the law over sectarianism and criminal violence.

Of course, if the government of India wants to hang a whole lot more criminals, that would be good, too.


18 posted on 12/31/2012 5:26:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ravager

“No need to get so worked up over one of your own kind spewing about you.”

Actually, I’m not all that worked up and I certainly don’t need a lecture from you on how to form my opinions.


19 posted on 12/31/2012 5:38:01 AM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

That’s good to know you weren’t at all worked up through all the rage spew against Indians.

And while I believe every retard had a right to form their own opinion, I believe some do need a little extra help to form theirs.


20 posted on 12/31/2012 7:47:22 AM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It’s not the government’s job to hand out justice, for that there is a process called Judicial system.

And as per your theory we should have seen a lot more Vigilantism here in US since O J Simpson, the dozens of mass shootings, home invasion, armed robbery, terrorist attacks, Wall Street scam, political corruption and Obama government. Having second amendment didn’t make a difference.

The judicial system in India is fine, it does it job. It’s the government that is slacking. Not that the US government is a major step up in that regard.

I have a different theory. Americans don’t give a sh!t, Indians give too much, and so the rioting.


21 posted on 12/31/2012 8:04:19 AM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Rockingham
Apart from a small, emergent, Westernized middle class concentrated around Mumbai and New Delhi, most of India remains a backward, premodern society.

And over time, the Westernized middle class will diffuse into the rest of Indian society. Unlike the US, where the culture of the underclass is increasingly pervading the middle class.

22 posted on 12/31/2012 8:10:15 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ravager

“That’s good to know you weren’t at all worked up through all the rage spew against Indians.”

You think what I said was a “rage spew”? Typical spoiled, arrogant Indian male.


23 posted on 12/31/2012 8:11:41 AM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Let me qualify that a little. Americans riot when there is a race issue or when you hit their wallets, like during occupy wall st or WTO. Anything else Americans don’t care so much to be on the street in the cold.


24 posted on 12/31/2012 8:23:32 AM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ravager

The judicial system is part of the government.

Second, the US is seeing an enormous amount of vigilantism, based on the states and the Supreme Court freeing up our gun rights and liberties. Citizens are standing up against crime and interfering with criminals, even when they could choose not to do so.

And if you argue this is just self-defense, in Britain they would have no argument at all calling it vigilantism. If attacked, the BBC says that a person should not cry “Help!”, because other citizens should not intervene. Instead they should cry “call the police!”

Vigilantism is enshrined in the Castle Doctrine, and the Stand Your Ground laws. And while India is still somewhat caught up in the British vices.

http://www.abhijeetsingh.com/arms/india/

“I live in India and I am a proud firearm owner - but I am the exception not the norm, an odd situation in a country with a proud martial heritage and a long history of firearm innovation. This is not because the people of India are averse to gun ownership, but instead due to Draconian anti-gun legislation going back to colonial times.”


25 posted on 12/31/2012 8:24:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: dljordan
“You think what I said was a “rage spew”?”

Yup, misdirected nonsensical rage spew.

Typical spoiled, arrogant Indian male.”

And proudly so. Besides I can also point to another one on this thread just as arrogant.....plus stupid.

26 posted on 12/31/2012 10:55:14 AM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

You went all out on a diatribe against Indian call center because someone wrote “spoiled American”...didn’t matter who wrote it.

Maybe the author should have added “spoiled angry defensive Americans”.


27 posted on 12/31/2012 11:05:35 AM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

The Westernized middle class in India seems certain to prefer to cluster in the few enclaves that offer a middle class, Westernized lifestyle. Lack of education, poor governance, weak infrastructure, ethnic, linguistic, and religious differences, corruption, and limited economic opportunity and social mobility seem likely to prevent most of India from attaining a modern level of development for a long time to come.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 12:18:34 PM PST by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I am not sure which one you are referring to as “vigilantism” but you are confusing two completely different things. One angry public rioting against the government and two....public taking on a lone criminal or a deranged lunatic.

As for US seeing enormous cases of.....Citizens standing up against crime and interfering with criminals. I am not sure I actually see any of that but there are plenty of criminal and horrific incidents happening in US quite frequently.

Rape, murder, armed robbery, mass shoot out are not all that unheard of here in US, regardless of vigilantism. If anything there is more violence in US then in India. What is unheard of however is public display of rage and anger against the government over individual criminal incident.

I don’t believed Americans have less reasons to be angry at their government then Indians. Just that most Americans care little until something hits their wallet. Neither is a step up or a step down.


29 posted on 12/31/2012 12:24:11 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: ravager

Yeah; figured that. Proofreading is a lost art, it seems.


30 posted on 12/31/2012 3:07:40 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Rockingham; ravager

> Apart from a small, emergent, Westernized middle class
> concentrated around Mumbai and New Delhi, most of India
> remains a backward, premodern society.

Yup “modern” would be children and adults being massacred in schools and movie theaters, priests raping altar boys on a regular basis, etc.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 11:33:56 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Rockingham

The Westernized middle class India living in the big cities and towns is actually as big the population of United States. And their number is growing with the economic growth. While the same in US is shrinking. That’s the most important part.


32 posted on 01/01/2013 12:53:59 PM PST by ravager (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: ravager
The Westernized Indian middle class is not as affluent as that of the US. Moreover, lack of infrastructure, political dysfunction, a rigid and corrupt bureaucracy, over regulated markets, a poor educational system, and limited social mobility restrict India's prospects for development.

India's middle class is likely to remain but a relatively small segment in a vast country that is mostly poor, rural, and bound to the land. Meanwhile, as the US economy recovers, many of the ills afflicting the US middle class will alleviate -- and especially so if necessary political and economic reforms are implemented.

None of this is meant to disparage India, and I genuinely hope that India advances and prospers more than I expect it to.

33 posted on 01/01/2013 1:25:38 PM PST by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson