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Obama: GOP's insistence on halting tax hikes for the wealthy is stopping fiscal cliff deal
nbcnews.com ^ | December 30, 2012 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 12/30/2012 7:04:46 AM PST by John W

President Barack Obama on Sunday said congressional Republicans and their insistence on preventing tax increases for the very wealthy are standing in the way of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff.

In an exclusive interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," the president chided House Republicans as the clock continued to run out on a potential agreement.

"They say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way, but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans are protected," Obama said. "That seems to be their only overriding, unifying theme."

"I was modestly optimistic yesterday, but we don't yet see an agreement," he said in the interview, taped on Saturday at the White House. "And now the pressure's on Congress to produce."

The president appeared open to eliminating at least some of the scheduled automatic spending cuts if Republicans agree to tax increases for the wealthy. Those cuts are slated to impact defense spending and non-entitlement discretionary spending beginning on Jan. 1.

"If we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts, and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term," he said.

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Good grief, where to begin?
1 posted on 12/30/2012 7:04:52 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

Perhaps by saying “Obama’s Insistence on Raising Taxes on the Wealthy is Halting Deal”


2 posted on 12/30/2012 7:08:40 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: John W
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3 posted on 12/30/2012 7:10:26 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: John W

That’s sort of the M.O. isn’t it? Make an argument so outrageous that its almost impossible to respond to given the high number of low information voters out there.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 7:10:39 AM PST by Honcho
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To: John W
Those nasty TEA Party Republicans! Not wanting to raise taxes on employers during a recession!!!

Hang ‘em! Hang ‘em all!!!

5 posted on 12/30/2012 7:10:50 AM PST by Happy Rain (Outlawing firearms because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.)
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To: John W

The republicans are stupid. According to Lindsay Graham 800000 DOD people will get laid off this week without a deal . Turn the blame back to president where it belongs and use that to win on the tax issue.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 7:11:03 AM PST by linn37 (w)
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To: John W

Good Heavens, can’t somebody in the RINO GOP get on their haunches and scream this is about refusing to make spending cuts not favoring anybody?


7 posted on 12/30/2012 7:12:45 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

Did anyone watch? Did David Gregory ask just what the tax increase would accomplish in real terms? I know, stupid question.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 7:23:30 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

EVERYTHING THAT EVER APPEARS AFTER “obama SAYS”... IS A PURE satanic LIE!

LLS


9 posted on 12/30/2012 7:23:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: John W

Obama owns the fiscal cliff deal he’s the one who refuses to prevent it.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 7:25:22 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: linn37

Impossible....they did not get their notices per His Excellency’s demand they not be alerted under the law.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 7:26:06 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Vaduz

‘zackly.
He owns this stinking turd.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 7:28:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Indeed it’s a good sign that the dem may fall in the senate race.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 7:32:08 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: John W

The Obamadork...where the stuff that comes out of both ends smells and looks the same.

Quota baby through and through.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 7:37:35 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: John W

We are now a COMMUNIST country. Get use to it!


15 posted on 12/30/2012 7:44:57 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: John W

Easy holiday assignment for these journalists (now a very derogatory term).

Just grab that headline and story written back in, what, August? Give it to the copy people and you’re off to lunch.

“Want some brandy with your coffee? It’s a nasty day.”

“Sure”.


16 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:36 AM PST by stanne
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To: John W
"And now the pressure's on Congress to produce."

BULLSHIT!

That's the White Hut's Talking Point, when in reality, the issue is CUT SPENDING!

Such as ON HANDOUTS TO ILLEGALS, UNIONS, BANKS, AND INNER-CITY TRIBAL PARASITES (such as Obamaphones, Welfare, EBT's, etc.

17 posted on 12/30/2012 7:46:25 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: linn37
They need to learn to play “DUMMY” and target the low info voters.

Low into voters believe the Bush tax cut was only for the rich, so just go with it and keep repeating it, taxes are only going up on the rich if your taxes are increased it's because the dems consider you to be the rich.

Let the dems explain it to the low income voter.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 7:48:18 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: John W

class warfare


19 posted on 12/30/2012 7:56:11 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: IMR 4350

“(Lull) voters (to) believe the Bush tax cut was only for the rich”

EXACTLY. The DEMOCRATS are in a FULL PANIC mode, knowing FULL WELL what their voters don’t know - which is that taxes are going up for TENS OF MILLIONS OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS starting Jan. 1, unless the Bush cuts are extended.

They have DEMAGOGUED the Bush Tax Cuts for over a DECADE and convinced their voters that (A)-The cuts were ONLY for “The Rich”; and (B)-Those cuts for the rich are the cause of all of our problems.

All the Republicans need to do is SIT BACK and enjoy the show, as the Dems try to explain that taxes will go up FOR EVERYONE on January 1st, because of the expiration of Bush’s Tax Cuts for “The Rich”.

THEY ARE CORNERED!! Their ONLY HOPE is that the Republican Leaders bail them out...and, unfortunately, they have a habit of doing that.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 7:56:46 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: John W

Dear Mr. President, I would be insistent too, on stopping tax increases on the wealthy, since your position is so mundane as to only run the country for another 11 days! Please put away the class envy politics and start leading the country out of bankruptcy. Eleven days of tax revenue isn’t going to save the country, stop being so very lame, and start getting real.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 8:02:46 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: John W
The President uses this method of argument because it has worked for him before. The methods, actions and policies of the current Administration and its so-called "progressive" elitists in the government, media, and punditry are remindful of Thomas Jefferson's wise advice in a letter to young Peter Carr:

"Nothing is so mistaken as the supposition, that a person is to extricate himself from a difficulty, by intrigue, by chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice. This increases the difficulties ten fold; and those who pursue these methods, get themselves so involved at length, that they can turn no way but their infamy becomes more exposed. It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions." -- See "Letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785," in Thomas Jefferson: Writings (New York: The Library of America, 1984), pp. 814-815.

From "fast and furious" to Benghazi, from Obamacare to the so-called "fiscal cliff," do we not see examples of such "chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice"?

The guises by which Americans are being deceived into surrendering their liberty grow more numerous every day. Truly, Jefferson summed it up well, "there is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible" as this kind of habitual deceit--especially when it is by an Administration elected to "preserve and protect" "the People's" Constitutional protections for liberty.

The real choice is between individual freedom and slavery to government--a tyrannical form of slavery.

The formula structured by the Constitution of the United States and laid out in its philosophical foundations--as asserted in the 1776 Declaration of Independence from an overly-powerful government administered by King George III--were explained by America's Founders.

Their writings and speeches, as well as the wisdom writings from previous defenders of liberty, are available online.

THE FEDERALIST, that collection of 85 essays explaining the Constitution's provisions and protections, now can be read in every home and school as a means of enlightening a public which has become too willing to yield their Creator-endowed liberty to a collection of would-be tyrants who call themselves "progressives," but are, in fact taking American citizens back to the bondage from which their ancestors fled in other parts of the world.

Several years ago, a business man by the name of James R. Evans, in his book, "America's Choice: Twilight's Last Gleaming or Dawn's Early Light," suggested 7 simple principles which every citizen could benefit from considering as they watch the so-called "progressives" attempt to enslave them through legislation and Executive Orders.

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles drawn from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"

The simplicity of these questions and of the core message of the following words by some of America's Founders might jar some citizens into a recognition of what "progressives" and this Administration are doing to the future of liberty for their posterity:

"...nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

"This was a favorable moment to shut and bar the door against paper money." [This statement referred to a proposed provision in Article I, Section 8, that would have read 'and emit bills of credit (paper money) of the United States,' which the Founders rejected by an overwhelming vote.] - James Madison- Notes of the Federal Convention 1787

"...there have always been those who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government. There is but one safe rule...confine (it) within the sphere of its appropriate duties. It has no power to raise a revenue or impose taxes except for the purposes enumerated in the Constitution....Every attempt to exercise power beyond these limits should be promptly and firmly opposed." - Andrew Jackson's Valedictory

"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views...." - Jefferson's Bill for the more general diffusion of knowledge for Virginia

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant--they have been cheated; asleep--they have been surprised; divided--the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it....It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety." - Thomas Jefferson-First Inaugural Statement of Principles of Good Government


22 posted on 12/30/2012 8:31:05 AM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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To: linn37

lol- they have not been smart for 12 years...once again another winnable issue the GOP has dropped the ball on...


23 posted on 12/30/2012 8:32:08 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: BobL
Not to mention Obamacare taxes are kicking in on the 1st.

Most of the Obama voters that actually have a job are too young to have ever known any tax rate except for the Bush tax rates.

Since they don't pay attention to what is going on they will only know Obama raised their taxes.

24 posted on 12/30/2012 8:44:03 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: John W
the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans are protected," Obama said.

Only a libtard could be so full of envy and resentment to denounce a policy that is both in the true interests of the country and the rational self interests of the non-rich.

25 posted on 12/30/2012 8:56:51 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: BobL; IMR 4350

Perfect points folks.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 9:02:00 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

The Republicans in the House are in a situation similar to what the managers of the Twinkie Company faced when its union demanded company-destroying wage increases.

The only honorable solution to the Twinkie problem was for the managers to fulfill their obligation to the company’s investors by allowing the company to go over the cliff — that is, to be sold, liquidated, etc., at the best price possible rather than allowing it be eaten alive by the unions and lose all its assets.

Similarly, the only honorable solution to the current budget crisis for Republicans who understand that allowing tax increases on employers will destroy the economy is to stand firm and let the economy go over the cliff.

Economic life would still be possible after going over the cliff; new possibilities would present themselves; but tax increases on employers would be certain to cause a recession, from which there would be virtually no possibility of turning back for years.

The only question now is are there enough honorable Republicans willing to stand firm?


27 posted on 12/30/2012 10:03:12 AM PST by Bluestocking
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To: John W; mickie; flaglady47; seekthetruth; Bushbacker1; prairiebreeze; hoosiermama; Chigirl 26; ...
Why on earth don't the mute Republicans on the hill trumpet one single thing everyone can actually understand.....that 50% of the populace don't pay income taxes AT ALL, that taxing "the wealthy" will raise enough revenue for only about 8 days of running the country....so, pray tell WHO will bear the horrendous brunt of taxation to finance Obama's marxist giveaway agenda and personal fascist power grab ? ? ? .......Obama's beloved "middle class"....OF COURSE !!!

Is this SO COMPLICATED???

Leni

28 posted on 12/30/2012 10:07:18 AM PST by MinuteGal (I'm Going to Update the Name That No One Dares to Utter and I'll Use It From Now On......OBAMUNISM !)
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To: John W

Was that an authorized question? Was there a truthful answer? LOL!!!


29 posted on 12/30/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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