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George W. Bush continues to destroy privacy rights
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Posted on 12/30/2012 10:01:02 AM PST by chessplayer

One of the sad, lasting legacies of the previous administration was the destruction of personal liberty and privacy which followed in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Washington began treating everyone as a suspect, prying into private phone conversations and recording your every move. Unfortunately, though he’s been out of office for more than four years and working with injured veterans on a remote Texas ranch, George W. Bush continues to hold America under his intrusive thumb.

Congress approved a measure Friday that would renew expansive U.S. surveillance authority for five more years, rejecting objections from senators who are concerned the legislation does not adequately protect Americans’ privacy.

The bill passed the Senate 73 to 23…

The lopsided Senate vote authorized a continuation of the government’s ability to eavesdrop on communications inside the United States involving foreign citizens without obtaining a specific warrant for each case.

For the life of me, I can’t figure out how Bush pulled this one off. (I mean, it has to be his fault, right? It couldn’t be the Democrats.) Seventy five votes in the Senate? When the Democrats have more than half the seats and the Majority Leader’s chair? Democrats hate this stuff! It’s the destruction of the American dream. But we can at least take some comfort knowing that President Obama will swat this down like a diseased tsetse fly.

The House approved it in September and President Obama is expected to sign it before the current authority expires on Monday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; hypocrisy; mediabias; obamunism

1 posted on 12/30/2012 10:01:08 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

SO it passed the House and the Senate and has been expanded by Congress and Obama.... but it’s still about Bush, giving everyone else a pass?

They are starting to sound like the MSM

There is a lot more than Bush to blame


2 posted on 12/30/2012 10:05:45 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer

How many people do you think will only read the title and post something nasty?


3 posted on 12/30/2012 10:06:26 AM PST by EEGator
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To: chessplayer

This was a post by a READER — i.e. anyone is allowed to post, this is not sanctioned by Hot Air, just because they let it stand. This disclaimer is posted in that section, from the From Hot Air:

“Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air’s community of registered readers. Please don’t assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.”

This opinion piece you posted is totally inappropriate to continue to blame Bush for everything. First of all, it’s biased and inaccurate and second of all, one would think we have a lot of current, immediate problems people should be focusing on, instead of a “blame-Bush” party.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 10:15:06 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: chessplayer
The same sop Congress and Executive branch had been using even before the 9/11.

Crisis/Emergency ==> Urgency to be seen as ‘doing something’ ==> Hasty bill(s) put forth and nobody read or comprehend them ==> Bill(s) passed and thus a lasting legacy.

5 posted on 12/30/2012 10:15:21 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: chessplayer
Both the left and the right agree that a lot of things Bush did was bad.
However, the 0bama administration is doing even more of it and taking it to whole new levels.
They continue to blame Bush for what they're doing now even though it's way beyond what he did and he's been out of office and power for 4 years.
And they want us to believe it's OK because after all Bush did it.
Circular reasoning at its worst. I don't get how they and the Media keep getting away with it.

6 posted on 12/30/2012 10:17:23 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: chessplayer

Ah, well except GW Bush is not president and not only did congress pass the bills, they also extended them.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 10:18:55 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Innovative
I hope the moderated is notified so this blame Bush nonsense can be removed or locked. This blame Bush nonsense is out of George Orwells "1984."

George W. Bush is Emmanuel Goldstein from The movie, 1984


Emmanuel Goldstein

8 posted on 12/30/2012 10:21:55 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: chessplayer

We are no longer a free nation, the Democrats and Republicans helped create a police state, we are the last bastion of freedom in the world, they are coming for the guns, then, the elites will systematically dismantle the United States of America, we have been fooled, we are all slaves under the socialist yoke! The confederates have won, the Republican and Democrat elites sold us out to the European elites, the civil war was never about slavery, it was about European dominance!


9 posted on 12/30/2012 10:35:24 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: chessplayer

Who is JAZZ SHAW and why did you omit that name and the date the comment was posted at HOT AiR?


10 posted on 12/30/2012 10:38:44 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: IslamE
the civil war was never about slavery, it was about European dominance!

That is of course why the rebels tried desperately to get Europeans to intervene, while the Union almost went to war with them to keep them out.

It is patently obvious that if the CSA had won its independence with British and French help those two countries would have had vastly increased influence in N. America.

11 posted on 12/30/2012 10:40:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: chessplayer

Daddy Bush said “Read my lips...no new taxes.”

Baby Bush said “I’m with the government and I’m here to protect you” and took our rights under the Constitution and established Homeland Security.

Obama said “Hey, if Bush could get away with taking your Constitutional rights away I can form my own FEMA army and completely enslave all whites and producers in America for the benefit of the other races and those who do not produce.

And so it happens................


12 posted on 12/30/2012 10:42:42 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: chessplayer

I believe the infringement of privacy rights can be traced back to Thomas Jefferson and his minions and then grossly expanded by good old Abe Lincoln and the Radical Republicans.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 10:45:27 AM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: chessplayer
” government’s ability to eavesdrop on communications inside the United States involving foreign citizens without obtaining a specific warrant for each case.”

Who really cares? How long will they listen in as you book a fishing trip in Canada, or you talk to a friend in England?

The only ones upset a libtards that like talking to dictators like Hugo Chavez and Castro.

14 posted on 12/30/2012 10:59:05 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: chessplayer

“....followed in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Washington began treating everyone as a suspect....”

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With so many muslims inside the country, how can anyone distinguish the wheat from the chaff?

A similar situation happened in 1941 when US Japanese were interned strictly based on suspicion. The suspicion was proven to be unjustified.

Can the same be said about the agressive muslims when it is known that many US born muslims have gone overseas to join AQ?


15 posted on 12/30/2012 11:00:59 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: chessplayer

You’re so full of nonsense, that you can’t see straight!

George W. Bush lives in an exclusive suburb of Dallas, NOT on his ranch in “a remote part of Texas” (which does NOT describe Crawford), as you claimed. The Patriot Act was passed to eavesdrop on phone conversations between suspected terrorists potentially planning a deadly attack in America. To date, it has been VERY sucessful and has thwarted a number of planned attacks.

It sounds to me as though you have gone off half-cocked with less that an quarter of the facts.

If you’re still blaming Bush after 4 years, you drank the kool-aid and joined the left. You really meant to post this on DU, idn’t you?


16 posted on 12/30/2012 11:01:01 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: chessplayer

The Patriot Act, and all that flowed from it, has completely changed this Nation. Further, there is no going back. All the back and forth about Left, Right, etc is distracting window dressing. The patriot Act killed America. And yet SO many here supported it.

Sad.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 11:08:06 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: DustyMoment

The article was mocking Democrats. Dunno why you couldn't see that.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 11:15:02 AM PST by Theoria
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To: 353FMG

No, it wasn’t unjustified. There were Japanese on the West Coast working with the enemy. Also, interning them protected them - they were obvious targets of retribution after the attack on Pearl Harbor.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 12:26:11 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: 353FMG

No, it wasn’t unjustified. There were Japanese on the West Coast working with the enemy. Also, interning them protected them - they were obvious targets of retribution after the attack on Pearl Harbor.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 12:26:11 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: 353FMG

No, it wasn’t unjustified. There were Japanese on the West Coast working with the enemy. Also, interning them protected them - they were obvious targets of retribution after the attack on Pearl Harbor.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 12:26:46 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: 353FMG

No, it wasn’t unjustified. There were Japanese on the West Coast working with the enemy. Also, interning them protected them - they were obvious targets of retribution after the attack on Pearl Harbor.


22 posted on 12/30/2012 12:27:04 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: RIghtwardHo
The patriot Act killed America. And yet SO many here supported it.

Yup.

And many who didn't were suspended or banned.

23 posted on 12/30/2012 12:28:46 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Stepan12

No. Osama Bin Laden was Emmanuel Goldstein. Our own government created a boogey man to scare us all into giving up our rights. We need to protect you against Osama Bin Laden, they said! If we don’t have warrantless wiretaps, constant surveillance, intrusive and offensive searches by the TSA, and a hundred other indignities, Osama will get us!

What a load of crap. I believed Bush at the time, but now I have come to realize that he and Obama serve the same NWO master. Osama died in 2001 of kidney failure. They milked his ghost for 10 years in order to steal as much of our freedom as they could. Now we cant get it back. The last piece will be the banning and seizure of all firearms in the USA. Once they take our guns, there will be no way to resist the NWO. Welcome to slavery, courtesy of the Republican and Democrat parties. Traitors all.


24 posted on 12/30/2012 1:20:25 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: RIghtwardHo

Sorry for being so lengthy-—This is just the way I am thinking at this time, if anyone is interested....Learning and education has always been an ongoing intensive project with me. “Reason and Faith” can never be separated and is what I contemplated on for most of 2012.

The Republican and Democratic parties are part of the Dialectical Materialism of Marxism. (To force us into the right direction—the “utopian” state).

All our information and “education” since John Dewey (1930) is a bunch of mush—to destroy morality and Reason—especially in children so they will be useful idiots when they grow up. It took decades to get rid of the Classical Thinkers who used to run the schools prior to Dewey. It was easy to do in England and much easier in France where Classicism and Virtue (God) was always mocked by the elite and culture since Voltaire. We really didn’t allow mocking God until the late 60’s in MSM. The morality of our children was undermined by Kinsey and Hugh Hefner and the mixing of Freud with Marx by the Cultural Marxists who infiltrated and corrupted university students— and the Supreme Court helped.

Without Virtue (the reason for education since Plato, until Dewey), there can be no freedom for any society. There can be no civil society—no trust.

It is all a facade—we are living in an Alice in Wonderland Postmodernist World. We are being manipulated into this “utopian” (immoral) state by irrational, evil people. All ideas today, given a platform, are being controlled by a few evil elite. You will be killed—like Brietbart—if you get too powerful—and are no longer a useful person to move society to the totalitarian state. If you promote Truth in a efficient way-—you will be destroyed. Notice that Rush will not tackle certain evil—irrational concepts—in an efficient way—like homosexual “marriage”. He wouldn’t touch it for years and it is the easiest way to destroy Reason and Virtue in children— when they are taught to have “Pride” in sodomy.

Rush’s silence in the late 80’’s and 90’s allowed a generation of children to be brainwashed in schools and by MSM to think sodomy is normal. It destroys Virtue easily. Totally flips Good and Evil in America—even since the 1960’s.

With Rush—there was an illusion of Truth—although he skirted the most fundamental issues when determining Virtue, the necessary ingredient of Freedom (as noted in all Classical philosophy). Sure, Rush hits some Truth—not saying he doesn’t-—but he was allowed an important, influential platform for decades for a reason. He was used because of the necessity of the “boiling pot” philosophy of the frog. It pacified us enough to allow the Leftist drift into totalitarianism-—so we would have no ability to exit the slave state which our Constitution originally protected us from along with our Classical education system—but has been totally destroyed now. Education was destroyed with Dewey. “Truth” was controlled by Marxist elites like Dr. Rugg and Dr. Counts and hundreds of Fabian Socialists like the sodomite John Maynard Keynes and Marcuse who infiltrated all positions of power in society.

Nothing is an accident in post 1930’s USA. Probably even before that —but it was easier to actually live after you went off the Reservation—although not for political leaders and bankers and people in charge of curricula in schools or publishing houses or Hollywood or scientists who found evidence that conflicted with the agenda, or judges that didn’t come to the “correct” conclusions.

The Satanic elites eject Judeo-Christian morality which is the most rational religion on earth. Christianity created The Age of Reason. (Most Christianity today is a joke—as Pastor Bonhoeffer even noted in 1931 in America, which he referred to as “Religionless” Christianity). Even the Catholic Church was infiltrated and taken down by Vatican II—which it may never recover from. Pope Pius X wrote about the infiltration in 1907 in his encyclicals.

The few banking elite use the Right/Left paradigm to force a synthesis-—always towards a totalitarian state. They had to erase the Constitution to do this in America-—but it is done-—and was done in Europe long ago.

It is Marx’s dream-—to destroy God and the Natural Family-—the concept of mother and father in children—erase all Traditions and Reason (Classical ideas)-——then the children believe “snow is black”, Good is Evil and will accept slavery as good.

The “Ministry of Truth” is possible with non-thinking, irrational zombies and lack of Freedom of information—Lack of Truth (God)-—there is no Reason—because all Reason has some Faith-—and if it is not in our God—it is in Satan.

We are no longer a Nation under God=and he was deliberately removed from the schools decades ago through Rule of Law-to remove the Christian God from the worldview of children.

Isn’t it funny that the principle of Rule of Law-—is that there is a Higher Law than man-made-up law (Legal Positivism) which has usurped our legal system and destroyed it—because they have destroy our Ethical system that our Constitution enshrined. All White Noise in the media-—unless they are a Brietbart. It is extremely hard to sort the chaff from the wheat but it takes education and time-—which because of the bread and circuses and taxes and all the Lies in MSM—few people have time to actually get educated.

Education (not indoctrination) of our children will be the only way to save this nation. It may be too late. I do not claim to “know” the Truth-—no one here on earth can——but education never is ending and some “truths” have been proven more successful and “good” for mankind—than others. True history—proves it. Revised history is what your children are getting in public schools.....Lies-—it destroys their foundation of knowledge-—so they will never be able to Reason.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 1:26:54 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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