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Republican Hopes Rest on Suburban Comeback
Pajamas Media ^ | 12/30/2012 | PATRICK REDDY

Posted on 12/30/2012 12:53:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Anytime a party suffers an unexpected defeat, there are two general responses: assigning blame and planning a better strategy for next time.

After Jimmy Carter in 1980 was — in the words of CBS News’ Bob Schieffer — “whomped” by Ronald Reagan, Democrats went through both reactions. As would be expected, the Reagan victory caused much debate in Democratic Party circles about how to respond. (Mostly every Democrat except Jimmy Carter’s inner circle agreed that Democratic mistakes had greatly helped Reagan.)

More traditional Democrats like Walter Mondale believed that Reagan’s victory was largely due to national anger over inflation and the Iran hostage crisis; they proposed that a labor-based campaign with the old formula of “tax-spend-elect” could restore the party’s strength in urban areas. A new generation of Democrats led by Gary Hart argued that a strategy of targeting the suburbs and the new western cities where labor was less prominent would be necessary. (Jesse Jackson also entered the fray, claiming that he could lead a Rainbow Coalition of minorities that would register massive numbers of new voters to defeat Reagan.) The new Democrats pointed to the fact that the older cities had lost so much population that even a 100% turnout wouldn’t make much difference.

Mondale defeated Hart and Jackson for the 1984 Democratic nomination, and got to test his theory against President Reagan.

The results were not pretty for Democrats, as the dynamic of an ascendant suburban vote was in full force for Reagan. Despite the fact that Mondale received a slightly higher percentage in the ten largest Frost Belt cities (65%) than Hubert Humphrey in 1968 (61%) or Carter in 1980 (also 61%), the suburbs in every large Frost Belt metro area except Pittsburgh either exceeded or matched Mondale’s city margin. Mondale’s performances in these cities ranged from a low of “only” 61% in New York City to a high of 80% in Detroit — and he still got buried by a tide of Republican suburbanites.

Adding in the usual GOP edge in the rural areas allowed Reagan to easily win every big-city state on the way to a 49-state blowout. The 1984 results seemed to settle the debate among Democrats on the need to reach out to suburbia, though Rev. Jackson remained a true believer in his inner city-based Rainbow Coalition. Eventually, in the 1990s the Democrats under Bill Clinton evolved into the “New Democrat” strategy of appealing to middle class voters and started to win national elections again.

Now, the Republicans after Mitt Romney’s unexpected loss are asking questions about the party’s future. What should be the winning plan for the GOP in 2016 and beyond: mobilizing the Republican base of conservatives, or winning back some of the independents who voted for Obama?

Fox News’ Dick Morris argued that Romney lost because not enough white conservatives turned out to vote:

The fundamental reason for Romney’s defeat is apparent, if largely unreported. It is not just that blacks, Latinos, and single women showed up in record numbers at the polls. It’s that whites didn’t. … We lost because whites stayed home.

Morris went on to blame the impact of Hurricane Sandy and the negative ads run by the Obama campaign against Romney’s business career.

While I agree that Sandy helped President Obama and his barrage of negative ads hurt Romney, I don’t believe his theory of a low white turnout is correct. There is a simple explanation for the lower share of white voters in America: demographic replacement. Every year, about two million older white voters die and are largely being replaced by the youngest set of voters, who are mostly Hispanic and Asian. The 2010 Census showed that non-Hispanic whites were down to 64% of the total American population, compared to 69% in 2000. However, the CNN exit poll showed that whites were 72% of the national voters.

So, white voters “over-performed” in terms of turnout.

Beyond turnout, white voters were also strongly supportive of Romney, as he tied with Dwight Eisenhower in 1956 at 59% for the third-best Republican performance ever among white voters after President Nixon (67% in 1972) and President Reagan (64% in 1984). The same CNN exit poll showed that 82% of self-identified conservatives voted for Romney — the exact same percentage that supported President Reagan in 1984.

Therefore, in all likelihood Republicans have already maxed out on white conservatives and need to look elsewhere for the gains they’ll need.

Beyond the need to reach out to the rapidly growing Hispanic vote, Republicans also have a ripe target in the suburban areas of the largest Frost Belt cities: New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc.

Mitt Romney essentially lost the election in three or four states: Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. What do all four states have in common? Lots of suburbanites and/or retired blue-collar workers. Florida now swings with the rest of northern suburbia.

Tipping the Sunshine State to Romney would have given him 235 electoral votes. Adding Pennsylvania (20 votes) and Michigan (16) would have given him a majority of 271, despite the loss in the national popular vote (due to huge Obama margins in traditional Democratic cities New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco). Alternatively, adding Pennsylvania and Ohio (18 votes) would have also won the election for Romney.

Here’s the stat that will have Republicans tearing their hair out: if Romney had just matched Gerard Ford’s 1976 performance of 55% in the suburbs of Philly and Detroit, he would have carried Pennsylvania and Michigan and (assuming Florida also swung) won the Electoral College a la Bush in 2000. Ford lost the 1976 election by two points.

Republicans have lost key big states like New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Michigan at least six straight times. But all is not lost for the GOP in the industrial states: if they can recover among suburbanites, they can become quite competitive in the Frost Belt again. With the South, Farm Belt, and Mountain West turning over Republican majorities, the GOP can get to 270 electoral votes by carrying just a few industrial states like Ohio and Missouri or perhaps Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. The last Republican nominee to carry the suburbs of the big Frost Belt cities was the first George Bush, way back in 1988. He is also the last Republican to win resoundingly in the Electoral College by carrying 40 states.

Historically, winning back the suburbs of the major metro areas should be quite do-able for the Republicans in 2016 or 2020. After all, these voters were among the most loyal Republicans dating back to the party’s first victory in 1860 for Abraham Lincoln. From the Civil War to the end of the 1980s, Republicans carried the suburbs of the largest Frost Belt cities in every election except the rare Democratic landslide years of 1912, 1936, and 1964.

In fact, 51% of northern suburbanites voted for Herbert Hoover during the depths of the Depression in 1932.

Independent candidate Ross Perot helped break the Republican grip on suburban voters in the North in 1992; every Democratic nominee has won at least a plurality of these voters since then. How can Republicans recover lost ground in the Northern suburbs? The best advice would appear to be to downplay controversial social issues like birth control, and to emphasize the traditional GOP economic message of lean, efficient, honest government and low taxes. This message worked for over 12 decades, from the 1860s to the 1980s.

If the Republicans were really clever, they would let the Obama administration raise taxes by even more than currently proposed, and then run against high taxes. Historically, suburbanites have been the most tax-sensitive voters. As Bill Schneider wrote in the Atlantic:

Upscale voters are the most likely to say that government has too much power and influence, that taxes should be kept low, and that people should solve their problems for themselves.

The lessons of 2012 are obvious: the Republican future doesn’t lie in an even greater mobilization of rural conservatives, but in winning back the northern suburbanites who for over a century were part of the Republican base. New Jersey, which is dominated by the overflow of population from New York City and Philadelphia, is the most heavily suburban state in the nation. A shorthand way of measuring the Republican Party’s progress in courting the suburbs will be to simply watch the Garden State.



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1 posted on 12/30/2012 12:53:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever since they stopped building Suburbans with manual transmissions in 1990, it’s fate was sealed. It’s never coming back.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 12:55:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

LOL! It’s toast. We live in Barry the Kenyan’s Volt country now. Plug ‘em in!


3 posted on 12/30/2012 12:58:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: SeekAndFind

who are they kidding?


4 posted on 12/30/2012 1:16:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

National security was a big issue in 1984 with nuclear freeze and in 2004 with 9/11. In 2016, it will be a enormous issue with a military degraded by Obama sponsored defense budget cuts and an ICBM -equipped nuclear North Korea. Hopefully we’ll be around to worry about the 2016 election. In the meantime, Obama will have had to switch course on defense like Jimmy Carter did after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. I’ll be surprised (again) if suburban voters are as easily gulled as they were this time, but I’m still mystified by this year’s results.( North Dakota and Montana electing Dem senators??)


5 posted on 12/30/2012 1:22:38 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: SeekAndFind

Hope?

In republicans?

Comeback?

Lol?

I have more hope in travelers from another dimension zapping leftists with an interdimensional leftist zapping ray.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 1:24:47 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

simply put we have lost the culture wars to the democrats and we will lose in 2016 and beyond unless we change the perception that the majority of American voters have of conservatism.

The people who vote for Obama are looking for happiness in the form of stealing the wealth of others. Until each and every conservative goes door to door to their low information voter neighbor and demonstrates to them by example that happiness is only found through self discipline, hard work, charity and fear and love of the Lord, we will never win another election. It’s as simple as that.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 1:38:11 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is needed by the GOP is support for American companies.

Not unions. Of course. But American yes.

American companies.

Everywhere. In every industry. Stop sending American jobs abroad. It is sending GOP voters’ jobs abroad, and turning them into dependent Democrats.

Bring back US jobs.

Now.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 1:41:35 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: GeronL; chris37

Well what is the solution guys? Third party? We have what, 70 or so of those already, and not one can get traction?


9 posted on 12/30/2012 2:01:56 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: longfellowsmuse

Well my own perception of conservatism, at least in terms of a philosophy of a political party, is that it simply does not exist.

It’s a myth, a lie.

As far as the perception of the people of this country, I do not even know how to address that or if it can even be addressed. Firstly, speaking generally, the people of this country are utter morons.

Secondly, how do you convince an utter moron to believe in something that does not exist.

I mean what are we supposed to tell them? Vote for republicans and they will do...what?

Sadly, the republicans are absolute total complete failures. No one wants to vote for that. I don’t want to vote for that.

I don’t think there’s any hope.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 2:03:54 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

in terms of a political party I agree with you. There is no political party that promotes and governs with conservative values.

Conservative values do exist and there are pockets of america where they are lived out. People who 1. work hard 2. go to church 3. are charitable 4. live moral lives (they do not shack up, do not get drunk, do not think gay marriage is ok, do not have abortions and are not single parents)

you convince others by example, before we can change hearts and minds we make sure our own house is in order. We must befriend those who are deceived and show them how to live. it will be long, slow and painful but it is the only way.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 2:20:24 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: chris37
Keeping Boner as Speaker is evidense (sic) that the GOPe is DOOMED.
12 posted on 12/30/2012 2:22:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: gusopol3

Don’t know about N. Dakota, but in Montana, the libertarian vote may have taken votes from Romney. It’s hard to say, because those voters might have just stayed home if their only choice was between Obama and Romney.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 3:48:39 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Free Vulcan

I’m not certain that there is a solution.

It seems that the natural state of man is to not be free.

It existed for a brief time here, but men do not allow other men to be free, and eventually man does not allow himself to be free.

I fear that the document that defined our freedoms is also the document that will doom those freedoms, because it also defined the centralized power that will consume every last one of them.

I am beginning to believe that the only true way to be free of other men is to no longer be here.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 4:11:17 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And the residents of Hell want ice water, too. The GOP really is the Stupid Party.
15 posted on 12/30/2012 4:13:40 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SeekAndFind

Approx 2.5 million Americans die each year. Predominately white Republicans.

Replaced by black, asian, and hispanic voters who are going >70% Democrat.

It’s a tough demographic struggle - the “replacement” voters are culturally much more receptive of large govt control.


16 posted on 12/30/2012 4:18:12 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SeekAndFind
All we have to do is nominate a real Conservative that can walk the walk and talk the talk... and the 3.5 million Conservatives of the base that refused to vote for romney will vote again and we will win... if we do that... we will also pick up millions of American voters that do not understand what Conservatism is and why progressive ideology is destructive every time it is implemented.

LLS

17 posted on 12/30/2012 4:21:43 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: GeronL
who are they kidding?

Themselves. All this dissecting and postulating that if only the GOP had a certain voting block under their wing instead of owning their self made failure...These clowns are truly dead from the neck up.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 4:25:15 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: SeekAndFind

Republican hopes rest on Obama being struck by
meteor from planet Ubiru. Fat Chance of that.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 4:25:56 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

That’s the only hope I have, either.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 4:31:48 PM PST by txhurl
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To: TADSLOS

How is the GOP going to have any voting blocs under its wings when it stands for nothing?


21 posted on 12/30/2012 4:33:44 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: txhurl

I only hope I live to see it.


22 posted on 12/30/2012 4:33:54 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: gusopol3

They have dumbed down multiple generations and now have a majority, no real surprise really. It will be worse in 2016


23 posted on 12/30/2012 4:35:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tet68

I agree our best chance is an asteroid hitting DC or at least the White House when 0 is not out on the links with Reggie Love


24 posted on 12/30/2012 4:36:14 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wishful thinking.

We now live in a center-left majority country.

Conservative white voters are a shrinking minority of the electorate.

We’ll have Democratic Presidents for awhile. Obama created a new political coalition just like FDR did in the 1930s and Ronald Reagan did in the 1980s.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 4:50:22 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nascarnation

No I disagree.

Sure there may be more white deaths, but most of those are retired white people. Many of whom would already vote Dem, to vote to protect their retirement benefits.

What is skewing the numbers most, is the number of regular employees who are laid off when jobs are moved overseas.

Those people are not all Democrats. At least not until their jobs are eliminated.

At which point, they pretty much, all become Democrats.

We have sent more jobs overseas in the last two decades, than I can count. Creating ever more Democrats.

Now it has finally reached criticality.

We need to bring US jobs home. Now.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 4:53:18 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Romney won “Older voters” (60+) by 9 points (54% to 45%). These were 25% of voters.

http://www.businessinsider.com/voting-by-sex-age-race-money-and-education-2012-11#ixzz2GaPsWZZv


27 posted on 12/30/2012 4:58:20 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

Interesting:

Obama won “Women” by 11 points (55% to 44%). And they are 53% of voters.

I still think the loss of jobs is the biggest dynamic, though I will admit elder voters are an impact.

I will grant you the older voters is important, but so likewise is the change in the number of basic jobs.

We must bring back American jobs, and stop sending them elsewhere.

Thanks for your post.


28 posted on 12/30/2012 5:10:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SeekAndFind

We will not see a republican/conservative president again in our lifetime. We have reached a demographic tipping point. The American public has been replaced by over 40 million LEGAL immigrants since the 1965 Immigration Act. Most of these immigrants vote democratic. Millions more are coming. We are not winning anythng on a national level anytime soon.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 5:18:47 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

I (strongly) disagree.

We can and will win, the next election.

If Palin runs, and with an appropriate running mate. On a simple agenda of American jobs, and US supremacy.

This selling every job to any cheaper foreign competitor has to stop.

Now.


30 posted on 12/30/2012 5:25:24 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The demographics are real. What you and I wish or feel are not going to overcome the numbers. It’s plain and simple math.


31 posted on 12/30/2012 5:29:39 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: chris37

Then put a gun in your mouth and blow your head off already. I’m tired of listening to the concern trolls who spread hopelessness.

Maybe that’s the end for all of us, but by damn I will not go down without a fight and on my feet. We still have options and strategies, even if we are on defense right now.

You might as well be provocateuring for DU spreading the doom and gloom. If you aren’t even attempting to be the solution, you are part of the problem. So please quit trying to suck everyone else into despair.

You can go into the ministry and spread the Word, hole up in the backwoods to make your final stand at a later date, or get out and fight right here and now. But please, use your time to do something more productive than falling into Freeptardery.


32 posted on 12/30/2012 5:31:55 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: LongWayHome

We are looking at the same numbers, and coming to two diametrically opposing views.

I say if the loss of American jobs is emphatically stopped, and we start renewing American jobs, we will win.

You hold a different view.

We shall see.


33 posted on 12/30/2012 5:33:00 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, you just can’t keep importing millions upon millions of poor people into the USA every year like we are doing and not expect to see the nation go center/left. Look at California: that’s the future voting sample for the rest of the USA. And....it’s not like this is a shock, is it ? I did talk-radio shows about this situation as far back as 1989 !


34 posted on 12/30/2012 5:44:04 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Free Vulcan

Here’s a rag, stuff it in your vag.

Reality is what reality is.

If you know what the solution is, then go implement it, otherwise realize that there isn’t one.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:56 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GeronL
How's that Aaron Tippin song go?

You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

36 posted on 12/30/2012 5:50:05 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: LongWayHome

I will admit we need to become more inclusive. No question about that at all.

The thing is, to do that not by trying to necessarily be inclusive, but rather to attract those who will expand our party.

Palin was attacked by the left because she represented an opportunity to expand the party in exactly this way. No other candidate on our side was attacked the same way. Only Palin.

There was a reason for that. Palin represents a winning approach for the GOP. For now and for the future.

I still support Sarah Palin strongly, and I urge her to jump into the next candidacy with both feet.

Strongly, and early. To get us all re-accustomed to her, and to start grooming her for the job.

How about it Sarah?


37 posted on 12/30/2012 5:50:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: TADSLOS

and still true


38 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP needs to start representing real Americans rather than Big Government and Big Donors.


39 posted on 12/30/2012 5:57:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: MasterGunner01; nascarnation; TADSLOS; tet68; txhurl; GeronL; dennisw; goldstategop; LongWayHome

Crap, all of it.

We won in 2010. Dramatically. Don’t tell me that demographics changed that much in 2 years.

We gained on the state level in 2012. Supermajorities in some cases. We have huge opportunities to get voter ID and other reforms, and crushing the unions on multiple levels, draining the Dem ATM machine.

Obama won by fraud, pure and simple. The shifting of 4 states would have meant that Romney, bad as he was, would have won. This has been very well documented at FR.

I question that some of you are even conservatives with your fixation on the office of the Presidency. We have a divided, Constitutional Republic with separation of powers. Time to use it to our advantage, right down to the municipal level.

Same goes for the GOP. There’s the RNC, your state party, and your county party. They are not all the same animal.

We now have TWO distinct election cycles with different dynamics, with the governor elections favoring the GOP mostly, and the Presidential. To win this we are going to have to maximize what we can do at the state level to wrangle in Washington. (see above)

We have primaries. Use that to your advantage in your state, at all levels of races. It is much easier to get conservative state legislatures than Congress or President. Get a conservative, feisty Secretary of State (or analogous head election official) elected.

Voting, welfare, health care, unemployment and many other Fed programs have some leeway in how the state runs it. Use your state to end as much fraud and abuse as possible. Top priorities being voter fraud and crushing the unions.

I’m sure there’s a zillion more things none of us have even thought of yet. One little rule change can steer the whole ship in a different direction. Find the chinks and exploit them.


40 posted on 12/30/2012 5:59:47 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan
Don’t tell me that demographics changed that much in 2 years.

Not a POTUS year, don't be fooled comparing apples and oranges.

# voters 2010 88m

# voters 2012 127m

41 posted on 12/30/2012 6:03:02 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: chris37

You ain’t God, and you ain’t the Pope. You don’t dictate SQUAT as to what political reality is when you’ve never gotten of your arse to do something about it.

I AM involved in implementing it, not sitting around like some little drama queen beeotch whining woe is me.

See post #40 douche, that’s just a start.

You could start by growing a pair, and quit going from thread to thread like a little DU bootlicker spreading your hopeless despair to everyone here.


42 posted on 12/30/2012 6:05:36 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

The shifting of 4 states by a total of less than 300,000 if I remember right


43 posted on 12/30/2012 6:08:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Most new immigrants & non-whites are not buying what the GOP are selling. You can have the greatest ideas & the greatest intentions in the world, but if the public is not interested then it’s all for naught....


44 posted on 12/30/2012 6:08:16 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

The fundamental culture of blacks, hispanics, and asians is much more accepting of govt control. Add that to two generations of “progressive” controlled education in the US and you have the recipe for Democrat success.


45 posted on 12/30/2012 6:10:48 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

And that is our chink we can exploit. :-D

Voter ID
Crush the unions
Govt program fraud.
Other things I’m probably missing.

These are all things we can deal with at the state level with state legislatures and governors, way easier than we can federally.

The key is thru the states, just as the Founders intended.


46 posted on 12/30/2012 6:12:32 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Look, Free Vulcan, I am not whining anything to you, I am telling you what reality is.

If one wants to be truly free of the tyranny of other men, then one cannot be in the world of other men.

That is the only way.

I am not hopeless, I am not spreading despair, I am telling you a fact.

Even if you lived on a desert island all by yourself, you are not guaranteed to be free of the tyranny of other men at all.

Any day, their actions could effect your life.

If you look at the history of man, one free society has existed. That’s it. And its life span was short. It isn’t going to survive, because men will not allow other men to be free, and eventually even a free man will not allow himself to be free.

That is plainly evident.

I really do not care if that pisses you off, or makes you think less of me or anything at all.

That is the reality of being alive on this planet.


47 posted on 12/30/2012 6:17:47 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I also read post 40, and you are wrong.

“Obama won by fraud, pure and simple.”

Wrong.

Obama won because free people are voting away their freedom.

Pure and simple.


48 posted on 12/30/2012 6:20:14 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nascarnation

Perhaps the most troubling voting trend is how the GOP has lost the Asian vote. This should strike most thinking people as a hint that they are joining a non-white voting block.


49 posted on 12/30/2012 6:21:03 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: GeronL

Yup.

And don’t get me wrong, the RNC absolutely SUCKS right now. No disagreement there. But remember Murdoch defeated the Lugar machine in Indiana, because it’s much easier to win primaries with Tea Party candidates. Granted, he was an idiot later on with that stupid slip, but you get my point.

So please, understand that a good number of us conservatives are going a different path, thru the states, and going ground up. That is my path. Part of that path is Tea Party congressman too, even though that’s a federal office.

The state parties are generally a different beast. Ironically, the Iowa Republican Party is completely controlled by the Ron Paulbots with a few SoCons sprinkled in. My county and surrounding county parties are so conservative...hell where do I start? There are so few moderates left that they are hardly worth bothering with anymore.

All these things can be used to our advantage. Especially if you already have a GOP state majority and no voter ID or limited union powers. THAT is something that one can jump into right now and try and fix, especially if you are one of those critical swing states like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida.


50 posted on 12/30/2012 6:22:42 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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