First On Fox. Teen's Mom Speaks Out On Her Son and 'Explosive' Chemicals

www.myfoxphilly.com ^ | 12/19/2012 | Dave Schratwieser, Reporter

[redreno]

GALLOWAY TOWNSHIP, N.J. -

"It's ridiculously blown out of proportion."

That's how the mother of the 16-year-old Cedar Creek High School student arrested Tuesday described her son after local police found items at his home that could cause an explosion.

"He really cares about people," she said. "He's kind, he's loving, he's brilliant...I think this is fear because of what just happened in Connecticut."

[redreno]

This happened before Christmas. Anybody have a follow up on this story?

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

Is there a household, anywhere in the developed world, that doesn’t contain electronic parts, and “chemicals that when mixed together could cause an explosion”?

[reg45]

sodium bicarbonate and acetic acid could cause an explosion.

[jimbobfoster]

I think an immediate warrant-less search of every home in America should be launched looking for dangerous household chemicals and any other object that could possibly be some kind of danger to someone.

[livius]

Hmmm...”kind, loving and brilliant”...the typical description provided by the mother of a psychopath, especially the “brilliant” part.

I’d suspect there were other red flags that mother is not mentioning. And as for school authorities being a little nervous because of Newtown, I’d say that’s reasonable because these psychotics always find the actions of other psychotics to be inspiring and worthy of imitation. Another high school student, right around the time of the CT massacre, was planning on blowing up his school but fortunately boasted about it and was turned in by somebody.

If the kid is just an amateur inventor, I’m sure he’ll be fine. But it’s certainly best not to take chances - in case he’s not the next Thomas Edison after all.

[P.O.E.]

http://173.201.187.68/state/new-jersey-teen-arrested-for-explosives

16-year old student at Cedar Creek High School in Atlantic County was arrested after police found bomb-making materials in his home.

According to the Press of Atlantic City, a teacher at the school noticed the boy had drawings of weapons in his notebook. She reported it to authorities and when investigators went to the boy’s home they found chemicals and electronic parts that could be used to form a bomb. The student was placed in Harborfields Detention Center.

A sweep of the school revealed no bombs. No threat had been made by the student. Cedar Creek is a magnet school that focuses on engineering, environmental sciences and hands-on learning.

Police Chief Pat Moran said there was no indication that any danger had been posed to the school or to any person. The family cooperated with the investigation.

[Mastador1]

Exactly what I was thinking.”They found electronic parts and several chemicals that when mixed together could cause an explosion.” I think we can blame all of this on Hollywood, especially MacGyver! Didn’t all of us as young boys tinker with something to try and make it go boom? And the thing that triggered the episode is that he drew a picture of a glove with flames coming out? Oh My God! I bet the teacher never looks at the drawings of the Amish children. I remeber when we wanted a child to use their imagination, now we punish them for it.

[GeronL]

So all of this is based on drawings?

this is warped

[raybbr]

If the kid is just an amateur inventor, I’m sure he’ll be fine.

Sure. I bet this is just what every amateur inventor needs to boost his ambition - getting arrested. I'm sure he'll be rarin' to go on with his experiments after this.

[Mastador1]

Cedar Creek is a magnet school that focuses on engineering, environmental sciences and hands-on learning.But God forbid you even think about guns or draw pictures. What have we done to boys in this country? The elite liberals have spent decades turning our future MEN into effete little woman wannabe’s.What they are attacking this boy for is what was considered normal when I was growing up. Now anything that used to be normal young male behavior has become suspect and criminalized.

[kingu]

Drawing of a glove (or hand) on fire, something I saw on many a notebook when I was in school in the 1980’s. This triggers a search of a home, where items, if combined in certain combinations, might result in an explosive device that is then translated into a possession of an explosive device charge??

Wow, someone wake me when reality starts again.

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

I think an immediate warrant-less search of every home in America should be launched looking for dangerous household chemicals and any other object that could possibly be some kind of danger to someone.

Normally I'd be against such an unconstitutional intrusion, but with all of the bad stuff going on lately, I'd be OK with a one time search and seizure operation.

</law and order republican>

[Cvengr]

Hold it right there!

These people actually have bleach AND ammonia in their house.

Arrest them all! /s

[dalereed]

When I was in gramer school 65 years ago I went to the drug store and bought the chemicals and made black powder.

I then made rockets out of artillery shells and fire crackers.

[Bikkuri]

Pathetic :/
I used to draw guns in school (one of my father’s hobbies was gunsmith) :p

I also used to draw dinosaurs... is that a threat too?

[P.O.E.]

While I’m sure there’s more to the story, it does seem like flimsy evidence upon which to base a warrant.

[grumpygresh]

Almost every household has the ability to make a Molotov cocktail. A bottle, a rag, a match, gasoline/ kerosine etc.
Perhaps the 4th amendment will be routinely circumvented on the baseless grounds of malicious hearsay, and suspicion of psychiatric illnesses. Government monitoring of electronic health records will be justified, and conservatism and libertarianism will be a DSM mental disorder. Same thing happened in the Soviet Union.

[Renegade]

Back in fifth grade (1957) I used to make my own gunpowder and M-80’s. I made rocket fuel out of nitrate and powdered sugar and then launched my own homemade rockets in the schoolyard. No body gave a damn.Carbide was a hoot esp. in blowing the lid off old paint cans.We bought strike anywhere matches and attached them to the ends of homemade arrows. They ignited when shot against a brick wall.We even attached the homemade M80’s to arrows and shot them into the air like aerial bombs.One of the coolest things was spraying lighter fluid on the bottom of your shoes,igniting it, and running down the street afire at night . These activities were sooooo evil that I became a middle school science teacher for 35 years because of it .

[ConservaTexan]

Don’t Mentos and diet coke explode under the right conditions? Time to raid all the kwik-e-marts. 200+ years of freedom was clearly too much.

[Kirkwood]

When I was 6 I had a toy submarine that was propelled by sodium bicarboate and acetic acid.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

I just watched “October Sky” recently. Could you imagine what they would do with Homer Hickem today?

[Gene Eric]

>> So all of this is based on drawings?

Doubtful. I’m sure there’s something not being disclosed.

[Gene Eric]

I wonder what “daddy” thinks.

[Mastador1]

I wouldn't be so sure, there are plenty of stories out there about little children being suspended from school for pointing their fingers like guns, or little boys being charged with sexual harassment for kissing a little girl. We have turned our children over to the most agenda driven group of people we could find.

[BobL]

I suspect that the pigs didn’t get a warrant and the parents consented. Pretty dumb thing to do...

[QBFimi]

>> ”kind, loving and brilliant”...the typical description provided by the mother of a psychopath, especially the “brilliant” part.

I clearly remember the mother of convicted murderer John Spenkelink, executed by the state of Florida in 1979, blubbering about “what a good boy he was”. The news media spent way too much air time interviewing that fat sow. They loved it.

[tet68]

When I was a boy I never NEVER did any of those things,
in fact I never NEVER even THOUGHT of doing any of those
things and if I had, I would have turned my self in to
the proper authorities for mental evaluation and
reconditionings. /s

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

When I discovered vinegar and baking soda nothing was safe until mom found out. Something about being wasteful.

[BwanaNdege]

When I was a kid I had a Genuine Lone Ranger Hollow Silver Bullet, ready for sending secret messages!!!

Yep, a little baking soda & vinegar and I had a live round!

Ahhh, the 1950’s!

[BwanaNdege]

“I’d be OK with a one time search and seizure operation.”

“One time”???

Surely you jest!

Ranks right up there with “Temporary Tax” and the original Income Tax:

“1913 Personal Income Tax System in 1994 Dollars

Tax Rate Income Level

1% up to $298,507

2% $298,507-$746,269

3% $746,269-$1,119,403

4% $1,119,403-$1,492,537

5% $1,492,537-$3,731,343

6% $3,731,343-$7,462,687

7% over $7,462,687

(A $44,776 exemption for single filers and $59,701 for a married couple.)

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/original-intent-and-the-income-tax/#ixzz2GZitto3O
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[petitfour]

Drawing pictures of weapons is worthy of a search warrant? Wow.

[gitmo]

Man. When I was a boy in the ‘60s I had drawings of weapons in my notebooks. Some were pretty innovative, IIRC.

And I have materials in my house today that could be made into bombs. Off the top of my head i can think of several combinations I could make into pretty deadly bombs. With $50 I could go to Lowes and make even more powerful ones.

This mom needs to sue for false arrest.

[BwanaNdege]

“While I’m sure there’s more to the story, it does seem like flimsy evidence upon which to base a warrant.”

Not necessarily so.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/336573/laws-are-little-people-mark-steyn

...”eleven-year-old Skylar Capo made the mistake of rescuing a woodpecker from the jaws of a cat and nursing him back to health for a couple of days. For her pains, a federal Fish & Wildlife gauleiter accompanied by state troopers descended on her house, charged her with illegal transportation of a protected species, issued her a $535 fine, and made her cry.”

[DUMBGRUNT]

One of the coolest things was spraying lighter fluid on the bottom of your shoes,igniting it, and running down the street afire at night.

How could I and my geek friends have missed out on that one?

But we did the flour in the can trick. Open end coffee can about ½ full flour tossed spinning to create dust cloud, ignite it! A nice loud WOOSH.

[spokeshave]

Yeah.. . . we found an old encyclopedia in the school library with recipes for blasting powder...just in time for Guy Fawkes day.

[Eva]

You can take books out of any public library that will teach anyone how to build bombs out of ordinary easily acquired substances and parts, books like the Anarchist Cook-book.

[TigersEye]

The teenager was taken from his class at Cedar Creek High in Egg Harbor City after a teacher said he demonstrated behavior that caused concern. She saw him doodling in a notebook during class.

"He drew a glove with flames coming out of it," his mother said.

That's the whole story right there. Don't let neurotic fascists near your children. Home school!

[fivecatsandadog]

“electronic parts and several chemicals that when mixed together could cause an explosion”

This current state of paranoia is getting a tad bit ridiculous. A kid drawing a flaming glove picture? Gimme a break. I remember kids in class drawing pictures of decapitated heads, stab wounds, etc. And while we’re at it, in my garage: gasoline, lawn/garden chemicals, batteries, etc. And in my basement: paint thinner, Drano, Clorox, ammonia, lamp oil, miscellaneous small parts, etc.

[BwanaNdege]

There is a "potential bomb making center" just down the street.

April 22, 1992 – At 10:00 in the morning, residents of Guadalajara, Mexico noticed a manhole cover was bouncing up and down as white smoke puffed out of the sewer. Minutes later, the first of many explosions would rip the streets apart. When it was all over, 252 people were dead, 500 were injured and over 15,000 were left homeless. Aftermath of the Guadalajara sewer explosion.

Aftermath of the Guadalajara sewer explosion.

The disaster was mainly caused by a leaking Pemex gas line that dumped gasoline into the sewer system."

"http://frogstorm.com/?p=3947"

[roadcat]

You can take books out of any public library that will teach anyone how to build bombs out of ordinary easily acquired substances and parts, books like the Anarchist Cook-book.

Probably way safer security-wise than a search on the Internet, unless using a computer at the library. Kids everywhere have always experimented with explosives, and always will. Mostly boys, however. My mom was always upset with me blowing up toy cars, etc., nearly took my fingers off a couple times. My grandfather used to dry homemade gunpowder on the stove (long before I came along, would not want to see that). Amazing that house-hold items like baking soda and cotton can be transformed by heat and mixing with other ordinary home chemicals.

[DBrow]

“They found electronic parts and several chemicals that when mixed together could cause an explosion.”

Cell phone, Etch-a-Sketch, CVS cold pack...book him!

[petitfour]

We have a CAR in our garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Girlene]

What do you do with vinegar and baking soda?

[Hardraade]

Vegan? Venusian?

[Politicalmom]

I guess nobody ever did the exploding volcano at your science fairs. :)

[libstripper]

I'd like to know what the chemicals were before passing judgment. In my wayward youth I tried many unsuccessful gunpowder making experiments and did build a successful cannon from 3/4” pipe that used match heads for a propellant. Indeed, I could have turned it into a pipe bomb just by capping both ends and using a fire cracker for a detonator. The gunpower experiments failed because I measured the ingredients by volume, not weight, and I used impure charcoal briquettes instead of the pure thing. I make this confession now because what I did was legal at the time and any statute of limitations has expired

[miss marmelstein]

Interesting. Klebold and Harris also had drawings of explosives.

This is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

[Hardraade]

When I waas a kid, I had a blessedly free access to blasting caps, fuses and dynamite sticks. We learned lots of stuff.

[Girlene]

Oh, thanks.

I was just curious since I use baking soda and vinegar to clean out drains....they’ve never exploded....yet.

[Hardraade]

Hehe. We used match-heads too. Loaded them into empty ballpoint pens and sent them flying around the room like mini-kassams. Then suffered the effects of sulphur smoke; no voice for a couple hours.