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Silent sub: Russian noiseless Borei class nuclear submarine immersed
RT.Com ^ | 30 December, 2012, 17:26

Posted on 12/30/2012 9:12:48 PM PST by null and void


Borei class nuclear submarine Vladimir Monomah at the “Sevmash” shipyard before its launch in Severodvinsk. (RIA Novosti/A. Petrov)

Super-modern, powerful and almost noiseless Russian nuclear submarine Vladimir Monomakh has been put in water to become the third ship of the Borei project. The cruiser is about to begin sea trials and mooring to become fully operational in 2013.

­Vladimir Monomakh was laid down at Russia’s largest shipbuilding complex Sevmash, located on the shores of the White Sea in the town of Severodvinsk in northern Russia on March 19, 2006 – the 100th anniversary of the Russian submarine fleet.

­Borei-class submarine

Length: 170 m

Beam: 13.5 m

Draught: 10 m

Test depth: 450 m

Displacement:

14,720 tons surfaced

24,000 tons submerged

Speed: 29 knots (54 km/h)

Complement: 107 (55 officers)

Armament: 16-20 × Bulava SLBMs

6 × 533 mm torpedo tubes

It belongs to a class of missile strategic submarine cruisers with a new generation of nuclear reactor, which allows the submarine to dive to a depth of 480 meters. It can spend up to three months in autonomous navigation and, thanks to the latest achievements in the reduction of noise, it is almost silent compared to previous generations of submarines. The submarine is armed with the new missile system, which has from 16 to 20 solid-fuel intercontinental ballistic missiles Bulava (SS-NX-30 by NATO classification). The rocket is able to overcome any prospective missile defense system.

On August 27, 2011, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on a successful test of Bulava to investigate its maximum range. The missile was launched from the White Sea, flew 9,300km in just 33 minutes, and then fell in the specified area in the Pacific Ocean.

All Borei class submarines are equipped with a floating rescue chamber designed to fit in the whole crew.


Nuclear submarine (NS) "Yuri Dolgoruky" undergoing sea trials. (RIA Novosti)

The Borei family

The first and head submarine of Borei class, Yury Dolgoruky, has already completed the test program and is to be officially adopted by the Russian Navy on Sunday. Construction of the missile carrier is approximately estimated at around US$770 million, while other Borei class submarines are believed to cost less.

“The hoisting of the flag and the signing of the acceptance act is to be adopted at the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk on Sunday, December 30,” the Rubin design bureau that designed the submarine said in a statement on Saturday.

Another missile cruiser of this project, the Aleksandr Nevsky, is undergoing tests, according to Borisov. While a fourth, more advanced submarine, the Knyaz Vladimir, with enhanced technical characteristics and increased ammunition is currently being built.

Over the next eight years Russia plans to have built 10 Borei class submarines altogether, according to the state armaments program of 2011-2020. All Borei class submarines are believed to provide a basis of naval strategic nuclear forces of Russia in the coming decades.


The nuclear submarine (NS) "Yuri Dolgoruky" in the area of the JSC "Sevmash". (RIA Novosti)


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1 posted on 12/30/2012 9:12:55 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

Courtesy of the scumbags at Toshiba...


2 posted on 12/30/2012 9:19:54 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: null and void

I didn’t hear that.


3 posted on 12/30/2012 9:19:54 PM PST by lmsii
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To: null and void

That’s all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 9:20:18 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: null and void

5 posted on 12/30/2012 9:21:13 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: null and void
All Borei class submarines are equipped with a floating rescue chamber designed to fit in the whole crew.

I'd like to know more about this ....

6 posted on 12/30/2012 9:22:10 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: null and void
...equipped with a floating rescue chamber designed to fit in the whole crew.

How is this possible?

7 posted on 12/30/2012 9:24:59 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: null and void

Cost of $770 million, vs ours at about $3 billion?

Maybe we should subcontract!

Two pings if you agree.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 9:25:57 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Robe

Great minds


9 posted on 12/30/2012 9:26:09 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Slump Tester
"Courtesy of the scumbags at Toshiba..."

Yup.

Those milling machines.

What was their penalty?

10 posted on 12/30/2012 9:38:43 PM PST by blam
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To: higgmeister; null and void
It's like saucer separation on the Enterprise .....


11 posted on 12/30/2012 9:38:43 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 9:43:38 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Thanks!


13 posted on 12/30/2012 9:45:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: higgmeister

The rescue chamber is the sub itself. After it ruptures for no apparent reason, it turns upside down and the water drains out of the conning tower


14 posted on 12/30/2012 9:46:30 PM PST by Figment
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To: Robe; higgmeister
All modern Russian nuclear submarines are fitted with escape pods capable of containing the entire crew. The Russians don't seem to like to talk much about the details, but a few pictures of them have leaked, like this one of the pod on an Akula-class attack sub.

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15 posted on 12/30/2012 9:48:46 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: null and void
What's the big deal? A number of their nuke boats don't make any noise anymore.
16 posted on 12/30/2012 9:50:35 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: null and void

I bet that the sub rattles and creaks like an old Chevy truck going too fast over railroad tracks. Russia’s industrial base is obsolete, its skilled workforce is old and declining in numbers, and corruption saps Russia’s military procurement. As with prior Russian subs, to keep costs down and avoid embarrassing breakdowns and the risk of fatal accidents, the Borei class will mostly sit in port, with brief training forays into the Barents Sea — but lots of chest thumping articles in the Russian press.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 9:51:24 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: JerseyanExile

Wikipedia says the compliment of an Akula is 60 or 70 men. That pod doesn’t look big enough to hold even half that many people.


18 posted on 12/30/2012 10:05:32 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Rockingham
With the help they are getting from various sources along with their own desires to flex their muscle in the vacuum that has formed with our failing wouldn't bet hard currency on that. Nor would I underestimate Russian ingenuity. Remember we have to get into space on their “inferior” space craft...
19 posted on 12/30/2012 10:08:49 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Rockingham
With the help they are getting from various sources along with their own desires to flex their muscle in the vacuum that has formed with our failing wouldn't bet hard currency on that. Nor would I underestimate Russian ingenuity. Remember we have to get into space on their “inferior” space craft...
20 posted on 12/30/2012 10:08:57 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Rockingham
With the help they are getting from various sources along with their own desires to flex their muscle in the vacuum that has formed with our failing wouldn't bet hard currency on that. Nor would I underestimate Russian ingenuity. Remember we have to get into space on their “inferior” space craft...
21 posted on 12/30/2012 10:08:57 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: JerseyanExile
Complement: 107 (55 officers)

Escape pod looks big enough for about half of the officers.

22 posted on 12/30/2012 10:11:08 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: ejonesie22

Just gives Putin a little more “flexibility” to match Obama’s post election flexibility.


23 posted on 12/30/2012 10:13:53 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave
Escape pod looks big enough for about half of the officers.

The photo of the pod is of a different submarine. Look at the photo at the top and compare the size.

24 posted on 12/30/2012 10:23:47 PM PST by Greysard
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To: ThunderSleeps
eggs:basket::матросы:стручок. Don't.
25 posted on 12/30/2012 10:26:29 PM PST by ExGeeEye (I'll give y'all 90 days for the wounds to heal; then we start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: null and void

And of course, don’t forget the new metallurgical advancement in their Titanium-Putin-Kursk alloy that boasts the most advanced submarine screen doors in naval history.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 10:30:10 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: ExGeeEye
I should have put some spaces in there. "eggs : basket :: матросы : стручок. "Don't."
27 posted on 12/30/2012 10:30:26 PM PST by ExGeeEye (I'll give y'all 90 days for the wounds to heal; then we start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: JerseyanExile
I tried to see if КОСТГОМА had significance. I found that Kostroma is a city on the Volga river. Ihe meaning of the word is in East Slavic mythology dying and rising god of spring and fertility. Ee was represented as a young woman.
28 posted on 12/30/2012 10:31:10 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: null and void

“We will pass through the American patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city, and listen to their rock and roll... while we conduct missile drills.”


29 posted on 12/30/2012 10:39:38 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: shibumi

Lol, that’s exactly what I was thinking of, except the front half of the Submarine detaches and floats to the top.


30 posted on 12/30/2012 10:46:52 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Greysard
The photo of the pod is of a different submarine. Look at the photo at the top and compare the size.

Absolutely correct. And that sub has a total complement of 55-60.

Now take a look at the escape pod, count the rungs in the ladder welded on the outside. (I get 10, but a trained photo interpreter may do better.) I estimate 16" spacing which would make the whole thing roughly 15' high. Measure the total height vs diameter at the thick part and I get roughly 11' in diameter. That is 95 sq. ft. Imagine an upper and a lower set of seats, and we get 190 sg. ft. for 60 people. Or about 3 sq. ft. per seat.

It is certainly possible to get 60 men in that space. It is not going to comfortable, but it is not that far below economy class airline seating. Keep in mind that submariners are selected for small stature and it looks very reasonable. Bets the heck out of drowning on the ocean floor.

31 posted on 12/30/2012 11:09:09 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: blam; Slump Tester
These subs use PUMP JET technology for propulsion.


32 posted on 12/30/2012 11:33:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"That pod doesn’t look big enough to hold even half that many people."

It depends on how motivated they are to get off a sinking sub.

" Guinness Book of World Records Most People Crammed into Old-Style Volkswagen Beetle (Bug)"

17

BTW, I've been in a Toyota pickup with 28 people (Kenya) and seen them with 35.

[This one is a Peugeot]


33 posted on 12/31/2012 2:40:52 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: null and void

HOWEVER, we spend something like 8 times as much money per year as Russia on our military. So while they have built 3 brand new nuke subs very recently, we have built 24 of them.

I looked for articles on all of these 24 subs, and the best that I can find is something that says we’re building at the rate of maybe 1 sub every 4 years. So that tells me that nearly all of the 24 subs are being built in a TOP SECRET LOCATION, one that no one knows about.

It’s sure great that we’re doing all of this, and we must, or people wouldn’t be complaining about our excessive levels of military spending. And they’re right - why do we need to build nuke subs 24 times faster than the Russians? In fact, if we cut our military budget in half, we would still be building nuke subs 12 times faster than Russia!!

So let’s do that, for starters - and balance the budget!!


36 posted on 12/31/2012 3:43:31 AM PST by BobL
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To: CurlyDave
Now take a look at the escape pod, count the rungs in the ladder welded on the outside. (I get 10, but a trained photo interpreter may do better.) I estimate 16" spacing which would make the whole thing roughly 15' high. Measure the total height vs diameter at the thick part and I get roughly 11' in diameter. That is 95 sq. ft. Imagine an upper and a lower set of seats, and we get 190 sg. ft. for 60 people. Or about 3 sq. ft. per seat.

Not what I see. Look at the two guys in the open hatch wearing some kind of protective gear. Could you put 60 of them in there? I doubt it.

I'm not sure that's an escape pod at all. Why the protective gear? Could it be the nuclear fuel? Notice there is no one else around. Normally there would be guys all over the place when lowering a load like that into a small space.

Or, it could be the warp core and the guys are protected against anti-matter leaks.....

37 posted on 12/31/2012 4:15:12 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Robe

And, every crewman is issued a lead jockstrap...


38 posted on 12/31/2012 4:38:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Robe
I'd like to know more about this ....

Me, too. The words "Violent and traumatic decompression" come to mind. I wonder how that works out from the depths these marvels run at?

I'm also hoping the words "pasty goo" aren't included in the manual.

39 posted on 12/31/2012 4:38:42 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: JerseyanExile

The new mini subs or even some underwater scooters are good alternatives....??


40 posted on 12/31/2012 4:46:05 AM PST by venucor
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To: null and void

Many years ago I heard about Toshiba being caught selling Russia the technology to make our submarine propellers as quiet as they are. I haven’t bought a Toshiba product since.


41 posted on 12/31/2012 4:46:41 AM PST by Smorgasbord (I haven't bought a Toshiba product for many years)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

I will live in Montana, then, marry a round American woman, and own a recreational vehicle.


42 posted on 12/31/2012 5:27:47 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: BobL
So that tells me that nearly all of the 24 subs are being built in a TOP SECRET LOCATION, one that no one knows about.

Except for Newport News Shipbuilding in VA and General Dynamics Electric Boat in Groton CT.

43 posted on 12/31/2012 5:30:10 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: JerseyanExile

Seen Russian made motorcycles here in the U.S...And after inspecting those, I don’t blame those sailors for wanting a quick way out...

In the pic it looks like they used caulking compound on some of the joints/seams...


44 posted on 12/31/2012 5:41:15 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Figment

The rescue chamber is the sub itself. After it ruptures for no apparent reason, it turns upside down and the water drains out of the conning tower


Don’t you just love gravity. Its always there when you need it.


45 posted on 12/31/2012 5:43:28 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: BwanaNdege

Thats nothing a half ton pickup ran into a river around here had 10 people in the cab and 30 people in the back ya know some of our friends south of the boarder anyway the 10 in the cab got out safely the 30 in back drowned..... they couldn’t get the tailgate open!!! /SS


46 posted on 12/31/2012 6:06:54 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Caipirabob

What decompression? Subs operate at atmospheric. That is purposeful, to negate need for decompression.


47 posted on 12/31/2012 6:20:00 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Smorgasbord
You said: I was in the submarine service at the time this happened. While Toshiba may make fine products, not a single dollar of mine has or WILL go to them since. They tried to kill me and injured this country.
48 posted on 12/31/2012 6:22:16 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: blam

“What was their penalty?”

Westinghouse


49 posted on 12/31/2012 6:28:49 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: UCANSEE2; blam

Pump Jet propulsion - that’s what Tom Clancy wrote about in the hunt for red october, isn’t it?


50 posted on 12/31/2012 6:31:12 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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