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The Whining Krauthammer
Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-12-31 09:10:21 | mrcurmudgeon

Posted on 12/31/2012 8:26:07 AM PST by morethanright

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Mr. Curmudgeon:

"I do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks," said syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer to Fox News host Sean Hannity. "It's been very clear from the beginning that he [President Obama] had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. He's been using this, and I must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the Republican opposition. The only, you know, redoubt of the opposition is the House. And his objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the Republicans in the House and to create an internal civil war, and he's done that."

Krauthammer gives the president far more credit than he deserves. The division separating establishment and conservative Republicans has existed for decades. Now that America is poised to venture past the point of no return - assuming a crushing debt that can never be repaid, while diminishing individual freedom in the process - establishment Republicans are forced to choose sides.

GOP House Speaker John Boehner marginalized the conservatives of his party to help the president increase taxes and raise the debt ceiling. It's disingenuous for Krauthammer to say a crafty Obama made Boehner do it. Republican leaders, in the end, made the conscious choice to follow Obama's lead.

Furthermore, Krauthammer forgets that the GOP's "internal civil war" began during the 2010 Republican primaries for the House and Senate. That's when the Tea Party successfully unseated many a Boehner-like Republican. If, as Krauthammer insists, Obama seeks to "break the will of the Republicans in the House," the Tea Party must increase its efforts to unseat easily breakable, Boehner-like Republicans.

If the contest between President Obama and Speaker Boehner is viewed as a boxing match, why does Krauthammer condemn Obama for landing skillful punches to Boehner's glass jaw?

Krauthammer should stop making silly excuses for the GOP's slow-witted bums.

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1 posted on 12/31/2012 8:26:13 AM PST by morethanright
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To: morethanright
The TEA Party was the first casualty in Barry's destruction of the right. The Republican Party is next, and for good reason, as both the author and Krauthammer point out.

I am rethinking the third part approach.....

2 posted on 12/31/2012 8:31:26 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: morethanright
The Republican Party has hit rock bottom. They lack the courage and will needed to fight the media and atheist dimocrats.
3 posted on 12/31/2012 8:33:51 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: morethanright

All revenue bills (taxes) must originate in the House of Representatives. Obama wants higher and higher and higher taxes, which will turn the Obama Great Recession into the America’s Greatest Depression. We need a substantial tax cut (and simplification).

If any taxes are actually raised, it will be because the House of Reps agreed to do it.
Pure and simple.
This means that we will just have to replace the Reps who vote to raise our taxes.
Not a difficult concept. We can do it. Let’s get ready!


4 posted on 12/31/2012 8:34:45 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: morethanright

I don’t want to know what, if anything, Kraut thinks. He and all the other so-called conservative/RINO pundits in DC, NY and elsewhere are financially vested in playing second, the “loyal opposition” to this madman and all the other Democrat Presidents before him. They like their social tier, the parties, the recognition, the publicity, the attention, and the second-tier power that comes with being a useless mouthpiece, albeit not too obnoxious, for the RINO persuasion. Screw them all.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 8:34:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: ryan71

The Republican leadership are all closet dims and will never fight to win, only to appear to fight and perpetuate the aristocracy.

Repeal the 17th amendment, get back more power to the states, change the primaries to stop allowing 1 or 2 low populated states to decide which candidates get to move forward for the other 90% of the country to choose from, it is mind numbing to see who comes out of the those races.

Stop watching MSM and getting news from Letterman. As Rush calls the the low informed public is deciding things before us in fly over country or the red states get to choose a horse.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 8:39:02 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Gaffer

What you said. Bump.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: morethanright
I must admit that I do like Dr. Krauthammer and appreciated his wit and occasional sarcasm he delivers during Bret Bair’s roundatbles, in fact its the only reason I watch them. His knowledge and insight regarding international affairs is unmatched on the show, however, when it comes to the political war in the Beltway, he tends to always side with the RINO’s and credits the jug-eared moron with much more ability than he possesses.
8 posted on 12/31/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: morethanright
I must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the Republican opposition.

Urbansurvival...I know there are highly respected political analyze who are saying B.O. wants us to go over the cliff. It would be like winning the exacted for him. But he can only pull this off if he can successfully blame the Republicans. A recent poll release today shows 44% of the population blames the Republicans for this mess, and 36% blame the Democrats. Those are not enough chips on his side of the table to pull this off. We go over the cliff, he goes with us.

9 posted on 12/31/2012 8:40:15 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: morethanright

Krauthammer has been listening to Limbaugh . . . again.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 8:48:02 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: SERKIT
I am rethinking the third part approach.....

That seems to ba all that is left.

For a couple of years I keep asking what is stopping a third party (call it Tea Party, or Conservative) from running Reps and Senators? Bernie Sanders and ex-Senator Joe Lieberman both ran as Independents and yet caucused with the RATS. Why can the RATS do it and the GOP cannot - just more hypocrisies or dimwitnedness on the GOP side.
11 posted on 12/31/2012 8:48:32 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: morethanright

While it is obvious that the democrats and Obama want to destroy the GOP, it is the GOP that is destorying the GOP.

Their inability to achieve any level of success on any issue at anytime does not stoke support.

Their back stabbing, lying and manipulative games stokes hatred.

The GOP deserves its fate.


12 posted on 12/31/2012 8:49:24 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
"change the primaries to stop allowing 1 or 2 low populated states to decide which candidates get to move forward for the other 90% of the country to choose from"

Yes, a thousand times yes, unless they move the early primary to Kalifornia.

13 posted on 12/31/2012 8:59:24 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: morethanright

Great article. Right on point.
I have said here several times.
If the GOP do not like the fiscal cliff now, why did they sign on to it
last year?
I hope we have a vote and expose who needs to be primaried in 2014
in both the Senate and House.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 9:03:26 AM PST by tennmountainman (V)
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To: concerned about politics

0bamaCare was the cliff and we went over it on election day.


15 posted on 12/31/2012 9:04:12 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: chris37

Why would you care when the whole pursuit is pointless and the outcome certain anyway, according to you?


16 posted on 12/31/2012 9:12:26 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Cheerio

We may as well set about the hard work of building that third party.

Looks to me as if the Dems are set to run the table for the next decade or two, whether we do it or not.

When they finally run out of steam do we want real Conservatives ready to step in, or a bunch of Boehners?


17 posted on 12/31/2012 9:13:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Paladin2
0bamaCare was the cliff and we went over it on election day.

Yep. Go over the cliff - all the way. Sandra Fluck wants her birth control.
People have very short memories. 2 years from now, all the impoverished Americans will remember is that this happened on Obomas watch. The buck stops there.
If you vote for a tax and spend democrat, all you're going to get is taxing and spending. Period.

Next time, people may actually think - and come out to vote. It's either that, or the commies in Washington and their freeloading base will want even more.

18 posted on 12/31/2012 9:18:55 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Free Vulcan

Because I care about my freedom.

To be perfectly honest, there isn’t much or anything I can do about the freedom of other people. That is their fight to wage. I am not going to effort to preserve the freedom of those who vote it away. I’m not going to effort to fight for the freedom of those to ignorant to know what it is.

I am not going to concern myself with fretting about how to elect more republicans, because electing more republicans does not matter at all.

If a people is to remain free, then it must deal with any threat to that freedom swiftly and harshly in such a way that anyone else who thinks they are going to come in and mastermind utopia will know exactly the fate that awaits them.

But that is not happening, and it is not going to happen here. Freedom in the United States is not going to go out with a bang, it isn’t going to go out with a whimper. rather it is going to go out with thunderous applause.

Knowing that, I concern myself with my own freedom, because that is the only freedom that I can effect in this world. And when I can no longer effect my own freedom in this world, then I will leave it.

Give me liberty, or give me death.


19 posted on 12/31/2012 9:31:32 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: morethanright

How can he create an internal civil war if they are all on the same side?


20 posted on 12/31/2012 9:51:19 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Common Sense 101
...............and credits the jug-eared moron with much more ability than he possesses.

Yet, the jug-eared moron's agenda prevails.............why's that?

21 posted on 12/31/2012 9:54:49 AM PST by varon ( I'll take the Mafia over the Feds anytime)
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To: chris37

Not bad. I now understand where you come from, and your intent.

It’s a different perspective on the same problem, but it makes sense even if I don’t agree with it.

Carry on.


22 posted on 12/31/2012 10:01:55 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Gaffer
He and all the other so-called conservative/RINO pundits in DC, NY and elsewhere are financially vested in playing second, the “loyal opposition” to this madman and all the other Democrat Presidents before him.

Exactly right. They dance the jig to get the pay.

23 posted on 12/31/2012 10:10:28 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: morethanright

We can replace ALL of the thieves, bums and incompetents in the House of Representatives in just under two years, in November of 2014.

Let’s vote for the ones who attach “Tea Party” to their campaign literature.

Better yet, make it an organized movement. Call it a “third party” if you wish, but make the “conservative” label worth something again.


24 posted on 12/31/2012 10:21:18 AM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: concerned about politics
2 years from now, all the impoverished Americans will remember is that this happened on Obomas watch

Unfortunately it won't matter. The 1937 depression-in-the-depression, which came in the first year of FDR's second term, was never blamed on FDR, but on Hoover, who hadn't been in office for five years (sound familiar?). "Low-information voters" don't follow ideas; they follow people, and Obama is the person they are following right now. We have no equivalent "face" on our side, and it will take a while to "grow" one, because, unlike Obama who could leapfrog into the public consciousness without vetting, anyone who attempts to become our "face" will experience withering scrutiny (cf. "Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann"), and will have to be able to overcome it by dissing it openly and appealing directly to the 53% on a constant and consistent basis.

25 posted on 12/31/2012 10:24:35 AM PST by chajin
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To: morethanright
Just so that everyone understands....formation of a third party will ensure 50+ years of rule by Rats that make Osama Obama look like a reactionary by comparison.Fifty....plus...years.
26 posted on 12/31/2012 10:26:42 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks morethanright — this is just a hatchet job on Krauthammer, nothing more.


27 posted on 12/31/2012 10:39:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Yeah, no doubt, we do have different perspectives on what is a serious challenge to freedom as we know it.

From my own eyes I cannot see any easy or fast solution, because of the involvement of other people as well as the slow turning wheels of government. In fact I believe those wheels turn in the other direction all the time.

In the very least if you have a people that wants to be free, then a chance exists for freedom to win. But if you do not have a people that wants to be free...then you have what we have in this country. Certainly this does not speak to everyone, but it does speak to enough of them to land us in our current predicament.

So my answer is to boil it all down to my freedom. How do I live free in a world of people who do want want to be free and people who do not want to let me be free? I do that by the choices I make in my own life. I do what I want, when I want and I do not do what others want. Of course I have to temper that will. if I take action that lands me in jail, then I have forfeit my freedom, and that is not my goal.

I suppose that someday my rebellious nature will lead me into direct conflict with the masterminds, but I do not fear that day.

So long as I live free, every day of my life has worth.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 10:43:48 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: donna
Exactly right. They dance the jig to get the pay.

And the fat pensions, solid gold healthcare, insider trading, and Swiss bank accounts. Hence my tagline...

29 posted on 12/31/2012 10:44:49 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ironically, that is also exactly what two parties ensures.


30 posted on 12/31/2012 10:45:05 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: faithhopecharity

The problem here is that the Scumbag Rinos are negotiating to get the Conservatives to be able to Vote No on any tax increases by getting enough Democrats to vote with them and ace out the republican conservatives


31 posted on 12/31/2012 10:56:27 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: concerned about politics

I don’t see any way to stop the DC Party, no matter how many Tea
Party Congresscritters we send to Washington.
The K-Street money changers will either corrupt them or work deals with
RATS to pass bills with very few GOP votes needed.
Trent Lott once said “you can’t change Washington”.
I am beginning to believe he was right, even though I despise Lott.
The DC Party, the party of Washington always seems to find a way to
get their tax and spend bill through, no matter what.
I’m guessing the only outcome that can stop them is a collapse of the entire
economy.


32 posted on 12/31/2012 10:58:17 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ballplayer

that is a real problem indeed!
amazing.
we need to start campaigning specifically to replace any “representatives” that vote or negotiate for any more tax increases, or do not sponsor and vote for the tax cuts we need

a member of the House that negotiates for any higher taxes needs to be retired at the very next election (2014)

meanwhile, tighten your belts and save everything you can (to pay all of Obama’s tax increases and new taxes he’s created that previously didn’t even exist)


33 posted on 12/31/2012 11:05:09 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: morethanright

I won’t vote for any Repub who votes for this deal.

The negotiations are nothing but pantomime. We have about twice the government we are willing to pay for, and no one in Washington on either side of the aisle is talking about reducing the scope and reach of government. They need to axe about two trillion from the budget per year, and they are talking billions over ten years which is essentially nothing at all (especially as it depends upon future congresses and future presidents).

The argument is about hitting bottom at 100 mph versus 99.9 mph. This is not a serious discussion, it is eyewash.

I wouldn’t vote for any Dem involved in this, and I don’t see why I would vote for any Repub who agrees with this. They aren’t serious people, they aren’t honest. They are collapsing the dollar and no one is prepared to say so out loud.


34 posted on 12/31/2012 11:25:34 AM PST by marron
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To: varon

Gutless, morally vacant, and unprincipled limp-wristed pansies, a immoral, vile, perverted socialist-loving propagandists posing as a “free” media, and a parasitic, productivity-draining entitlement class created by a Demonic Party who seeks to perpetuate the very policies that continue to prevail.


35 posted on 12/31/2012 12:09:02 PM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: morethanright

Krauthammer is right. Obama has cleaned our clock in the only court that matters...the court of public opinion. It’s true that he had the media in his pocket but that doesn’t alter the facts.


36 posted on 12/31/2012 12:12:41 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Common Sense 101
credits the jug-eared moron with much more ability than he possesses

Krauthammer has only ever given grudging praise to the presiden't political successes -- not his policies.

And it's important to remember that the "jug-eared moron" won the election. I think Krauthammer's been right.

37 posted on 12/31/2012 3:38:46 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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