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Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple [nixed rights before birth]
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 31 December 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 12/31/2012 10:23:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Edited on 12/31/2012 10:55:37 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]


An gela Baer and Jennifer Schreiner, the now-separated lesbian couple

A sperm donor has been ordered to pay child support for the biological daughter he fathered to a lesbian couple who found him via Craigslist.

Angela Bauer, 40, and partner Jennifer Schreiner, 34, placed an ad on the site three years ago for a donor which was answered by William Marotta.

'We are foster and adoptive parents and now we desire to share a pregnancy and birth together,' Bauer wrote in the online posting.

Mr Marotta provided sperm which was used for artificial insemination by Ms Schreiner. In return, he gave up parental rights including financial duties for the child.


Ms. Bauer and Ms. Schriner have adopted eight children during their relationship

Angela Bauer and former partner Jennifer Schreiner are supporting their sperm donor William Marotta in his fight against paying child support for their daughter.

The three signed a legal document which stated Mr Marotta, a married mechanic who fosters children with his wife, would have no rights to the child.

Bauer and Schreiner updated Marotta on their daughter's well-being occasionally but he has had little contact, according to the Kansas City Star.

The arrangement changed earlier this year when Ms Schreiner, the only parent registered on her daughter's birth certificate, applied for social welfare.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; kansas; lesbianlove; lgbt Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: Mrs. Don-o

I hope they make him pay for his kid and all the others they adopted just because he’s stupid. Look what this country has come to.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 10:31:25 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The lesson? No matter how well intentioned there will always be some legal pig who will annul any legal document when there is money to be taken away from a male and given to a woman. Yes there is a child involved. That is a problem for the “mother”, and her “partner”. Gays and Lesbians want the same rights as anyone else? Let them have the same responsibilities.
Lesson #2. Abetting the GLBT agenda will always, always, always come back to bite you in the @$$ in the end.


3 posted on 12/31/2012 10:31:49 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well this photo explains a lot. K-State fans.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 10:40:17 AM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Not that I support what the guy chose to do, and he is responsible for his actions and needs to live with the consequences.

However, it was a fundamentally stupid decision for him to give his full name. He should have given his alias, a cup, and a turkey baster, then disappear.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 10:45:53 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thousands of Freepers want to know:

“Did the doner have a boner?”

( I know , I know, thats not appropriate etc., but the problem is I hate to give up a good rhyme)


6 posted on 12/31/2012 10:48:17 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Selling his sperm into slavery. Who knew? Looks like working hand over fist is no longer profitable in the UK.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 10:49:38 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

Sorry, Corrected for the wrong nation, I guess my hand slipped... “Selling his sperm into slavery. Who knew? Looks like working hand over fist is no longer profitable in the US”


8 posted on 12/31/2012 10:53:59 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: All

” The legal agreement that the three made in 2009 was deemed invalid by Kansas state because they did not use a certified doctor for the insemination.”

Then what did they use?

On second thought, I don’t want to know.


9 posted on 12/31/2012 11:02:31 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Past Your Eyes

‘Sounds like karma to me. I believe God has the exclusive right to “make” children.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 11:06:53 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Past Your Eyes
This story demonstrates how our civilization is coming apart across many axes.

A man is paid to impregnate a woman he's never met.

That woman is pretending another woman is, effectively, a man.

During this pretense, eight children are recruited/produced/indoctrinated into this imaginary household.

The imaginary household tries to become a full-time business by looking for government to pay it for existing.

The government, in a bizarre moment of lucidity, attempts to do the right thing by making the father of a child support that child.

In the meantime the imaginary household/government-subsidized business enterprise falls apart.

Eight presumably innocent children were brainwashed and emotionally abused by three morons while responsible adults were forced to pay for it.

In the meantime, the three scam artists continue their rent-seeking while pretending that it is them - and not the unoffending children - who have been done an injustice.

Also, apparently everyone involved in this story is morbidly obese.

11 posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:29 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Candor7
Did the donor have a...?

Click on the story for a photo of the, uh, ladies. Not even with a full bottle of viagra....

12 posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:59 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Past Your Eyes

This is Great Britain, which is a little further down the road to perversion than we are in the U.S. - but not much.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 11:13:21 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Shouldn’t the lesbian spouse be forced to pay?

I mean hey- they wanted equal rights.

When you adopt children and then get divorced, you have to pay - why doesn’t she?

She agreed to it, and made the guy sign away his parental rights and financial responsibilities. If he signed the financial responsibilities away that means THEY AGREED to be responsible, so SHE SHOULD PAY.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 11:22:17 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: Jonty30

they should have adopted and severed his parental rights. he is an idiot


15 posted on 12/31/2012 11:24:52 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
They are all idiots, I think we all agree to that.

Note that some of the commenters are taling about what are the birthmother's feelings now, is she lesbian or straight, and "did the sperm donor choose to be a father" . Who the heck cares about "what she feels" or "when did he choose" or "whoever/whatever they now want or are now attracted to" etc. etc.

Obligations are obligations. Duties are duties. They do not depend on your on-and-off feelings. Children have rights which are natural, are imprinted in the bodies and minds, and are necessary for their life-long-flourishing.

#1 in the list of rights is, of course, the right to life = the right to just go on living, not to be assaulted, terminated, or murdered.

But right #2 is closely akin to it, and this is: the right to the support, provision, and nurturance of your natural father and mother.

That's what sex, love, and marriage are supposed to be about: the commitment of one man and one woman to each other and to the children born to them. They have the duty to acknowledge the child as bone-of-their-bone and flesh-of-their-flesh, to love and care for their child as such, because this is what every child needs to humanly flourish.

Pack up your "I feel" and "I want" and store it with the rest of your kindergarten memorabilia. An adult says: "The child's needs come before my feelings and wants."

16 posted on 12/31/2012 11:46:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you, May the Lord keep you, May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Okay. We have a guy doing a stupid thing by trying to help 2 women fool mother Nature into giving the 'couple' a child.....but this is a moral issue, not a legal one.

because they did not use a certified doctor for the insemination

This is the 'legal' issue...the fact that they decided to forgo the State mucking about in their business. WHY was a certified doctor needed? Obviously not because the results would differ. They did a pretty good job on their own [obviously].

There IS a written private contract where the donor already gave up any rights to the child, and without the Right, there can be no Duty.

Then there's this:

Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligation of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. The two former are expressly prohibited by the declarations prefixed to some of the State Constitutions, and all of them are prohibited by the spirit and scope of these fundamental charters.
James Madison, Federalist, no. 44

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Stupidity is not a crime punishable by government, and I am heartily glad this guy has decided to lawyer up and fight this idea that the State gets to regulate every single aspect of our lives.

If the 'couple' is named as parents in HIS contract let THEM foot the bill for their grand scheme to 'play house'.

17 posted on 12/31/2012 11:47:34 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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To: yldstrk
Thwe short way to say that is: "If you don't want to be a father, make sure your sperm doesn't end up in a female's genital tract."

Basic.

18 posted on 12/31/2012 11:48:57 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you, May the Lord keep you, May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Just like women should be protective of themselves sexually, men should be protective of themselves like not spreading their “seed” around. Contrary to what society says, sex outside of marriage is like playing with fire.

In my younger days not knowing any better, I was careful not to impregnate a woman like in a one-night stand. If impregnated and a baby was born, that would be my kid and all the headaches in parenting without marriage.

Now I have a 13 year old and I emphasize to him that he should wait until marriage and try to emphasize the consequences of playing around outside of marriage.


19 posted on 12/31/2012 12:02:55 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Mrs. Don-o

umm, that last photo in the story....that’s no man, just a dyke with a short haircut. Daily Mail UK RESEARCH before you write a damn caption.


20 posted on 12/31/2012 12:03:24 PM PST by squeegee boy
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To: Mrs. Don-o

yep


21 posted on 12/31/2012 1:02:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: fwdude

No, it’s America, and the story is in an English paper...


22 posted on 12/31/2012 1:28:58 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I hope they make him pay for his kid and all the others they adopted just because he’s stupid.

I agree about forcing him to support HIS kid. Let traitors like him get stuck with supporting their children, as a warning to others who would do this.

As for supporting the others, let's just say I won't run to his defense if it happens.

Look what this country has come to.

Yup. I miss the 80s.

23 posted on 12/31/2012 2:26:33 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: CORedneck
Just like women should be protective of themselves sexually, men should be protective of themselves like not spreading their “seed” around. Contrary to what society says, sex outside of marriage is like playing with fire.

I agree with you, and so does MRA Glenn Sacks.

Ad: ‘Men Only Want Sex’

24 posted on 12/31/2012 2:27:59 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: fwdude
This is Great Britain, which is a little further down the road to perversion than we are in the U.S. - but not much.

Um. How about reading the article? It's the U.S. -- papers in the U.K. often report on events over here.

25 posted on 12/31/2012 3:15:53 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That makes way too much sense for today’s leftists to understand.


26 posted on 01/01/2013 9:44:02 AM PST by ReformationFan
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