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URGENT: Illinois Legislature to Attempt Passage of Gun Ban THIS WEEK
NRA-ILA ^ | 12/31/2013 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 12/31/2012 2:02:09 PM PST by blondee123

URGENT: Illinois Anti-Gun Legislators That YOU Voted Out of Office to Use Their Last Remaining Days in Legislature Exploiting Lame Duck Session and Holiday Break To Impose a Draconian Gun Ban

The NRA-ILA has just learned that anti-gun legislators backed by Governor Quinn are deceptively trying to sneak through a new draconian gun ban as early as Wednesday while the legislature convenes for the Lame Duck Session from January 2 to 9.

(Excerpt) Read more at nraila.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; bloodoftyrants; corruption; democrats; govtabuse; gun; guncontrol; illinois; secondamendment; tyranny
Unbelievable
1 posted on 12/31/2012 2:02:20 PM PST by blondee123
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To: blondee123

The last lame duck session in ILL-ANNOY brought us a 67% increase in income tax using bribes for jobs for vulnerable members who were going out the door anyway. BOHICA! Past behavior predicts future behavior.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 2:05:26 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: blondee123

I thought that the whole State was a gun-free zone already.


3 posted on 12/31/2012 2:12:49 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: blondee123

Once you lose the election, you should not be allowed to do anything more. Clean out your desk is all....


4 posted on 12/31/2012 2:14:38 PM PST by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: blondee123

Illinois is like a little California, in the middle of the country. If I were driving from East to West, I’d go around it.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 2:15:04 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Based on what I read on another forum, I don’t believe there is actually a bill being offered . . . yet.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 2:20:17 PM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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To: blondee123

Won’t matter, the federal appeals court has ordered the state to author a conceal carry law and will strike down any attempts to flat out ban guns. It’s so nothing more than grandstanding.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 2:24:25 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Paladin2

Not exactly. Handguns were banned only in Chicago and a few suburbs, but the Supreme Court struck that down a few years ago. It’s still difficult to obtain a permit under the new ordinances though, because they make you jump through a lot of hoops.

Rifles and shotguns have always been legal throughout the state, even in Chicago, but there are no provisions for open or concealed carry (for the average citizen). So, basically, you can keep them in your home, and you can only transport them for certain purposes, like hunting, or going to the range. You also have to keep them unloaded, with the ammunition secured separately, while you are transporting them.

Not gun-friendly, but not exactly gun-free either.


8 posted on 12/31/2012 2:28:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: KoRn
KoRn said: "If I were driving from East to West, I’d go around it."

As my wife and I did when we toured the U.S. recently, covering about 14,000 miles. We also twice drove non-stop across New York, spending not one thin dime in New York in either direction.

We made many stops in Texas, Virginia, and other states where I could legally carry.

9 posted on 12/31/2012 2:35:14 PM PST by William Tell
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To: usconservative

True, but you know they are going to try to draft a “may issue” bill with all sorts of restrictions, so it will be at least as difficult to get a permit as it is in New York, probably even worse.

The next battlefront will be to get the courts to strike down “may issue” restrictions and force states to enfranchise all of their citizens.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 2:37:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: usconservative

I will probably draw a hail of fire and brimstone over this comment but here it goes.....

It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.

What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.

Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....


11 posted on 12/31/2012 2:45:04 PM PST by eartick
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To: NCDave
100%
12 posted on 12/31/2012 2:54:45 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: blondee123

So, where’s the bill? What’s in it? What is the bill number, and who introduced it? The post links to nothing other than an “Alert” that says very, very little.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 2:59:52 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: eartick

Most of rural folk in Illinois would vote to let Cook county join DC, Boulder Colorado, Austin Texas and become their only little state.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 3:02:16 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: blondee123

Ban what kind or kinds of guns? Draconian guns! [No information from any bill.]


15 posted on 12/31/2012 3:05:55 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ought-six

ISRA hasn’t identified anything specific yet, and the NRA-ILA page doesn’t cite anything specific either. Basically, I’m taking this as a “be on your guard” warning to be proactive.

That said, Quinn already tried to shove an assault weapon ban through before the Newtown shootings, and he was overridden in both houses. I don’t see how things could have changed that much in Springfield, school shooting or not.


16 posted on 12/31/2012 3:54:21 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: eartick

AMENDMENT I: CONGRESS shall make no law...

AMENDMENT II: The right OF THE PEOPLE shall not...

Kindly note the difference.


17 posted on 12/31/2012 4:22:17 PM PST by T Wayne (If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
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To: T Wayne

AMENDMENT I: CONGRESS shall make no law...

AMENDMENT II: The right OF THE PEOPLE shall not...

Exactly. Early state court decisions quoted the Second Amendment as applying to the States.

Also note that the Constitution guarantees a “Republican” form of government in the states, and the first clause of the Second Amendment notes that a “well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” implies that each state needs to be able to form militias in order to remain free.

They could not form militias without the right to keep and bear arms.


18 posted on 12/31/2012 5:45:44 PM PST by marktwain
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To: eartick
I will probably draw a hail of fire and brimstone over this comment but here it goes.....

It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.

As a resident of this socialist hell-hole named the People's RepubliK of Illannoyed, I couldn't agree more.

What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.

I think you're confusing Constitutional Amendments. It is the Tenth Amendment that tells the Federal Government what it cannot do to the states, ie "All rights not expressly given to the Federal Government are reserved by the States."

The Second Amendment is our Constitutional Guarantee to keep and bear arms.

In this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court had a vested interest in ensuring that all citizens of the State of Illinois enjoyed their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS as expressed by the Founding Fathers to keep and bear arms, and by natural extension have the right to defend themselves.

The State of Illinois is one or two (I think...) States left that does not have Conceal/Carry laws. The Federal Appeals Court struck down the State of Illinois' view that Citizens of the State only had a right to bear arms in self-defense in their homes.

In their ruling, the Federal Appeals Court ordered the State of Illinois to write a law enabling Conceal/Carry in Illinois, and that the state must issue Conceal/Carry permits.

The Federal Appeals court didn't stop there, they'll be REVIEWING the law after it's passed to validate that it enables Conceal/Carry and doesn't create undue/unnecessary burdens for the residents of Illinois to obtain Conceal/Carry permits. If the court finds the law the State of Illinois passes is too restrictive, they've already stated they'll strike it down and make Illinois try again (as necessary.) If the State does NOT meet the Court's requirements, the Court may order the State of Illinois to become "must issue" or "shall issue." Boy, won't that be exciting! (I think so, I live here!)

So in closing, in this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court actually got this one exactly right.

Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....

If you mean feed the Illinois Republican Party, I'll be the first to tell you that Illinois Republican's are the WORST form of RINO. They're nothing more than Socialist-Lite. Again, I live here, been here since 1977. Politically speaking, this state couldn't possibly be in worse shape.

Remember, we're the only state in the Country that has TWO former Governor's serving time in Federal Prison RIGHT NOW for Political Corruption.

Happy New Year!

19 posted on 12/31/2012 6:38:10 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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20 posted on 01/01/2013 1:35:12 AM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: blondee123

Is anybody surprised?


21 posted on 01/01/2013 2:08:36 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: ought-six

Because it isn’t going to happen. This is a nonsense post. Quinn is losing the gun control battle. Black Chicago Aldermen are talking about legal concealed carry in Chicago. It’s over.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 5:12:08 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: KoRn

LOL, for me to travel between Colorado and Central Indiana I have the choice of

- suck it up and go through IL
- Travel from MO into IA, WI than a boat from Milwaukee WI to Michigan then down into Indiana. Want to add that IA and WI are not friendly towards drivers who drive vehicles with very dark tinting
- Other route MO into TN tan KY and up into Indiana

> Illinois is like a little California, in the middle of the country. If I were driving from East to West, I’d go around it.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 6:45:04 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: eartick

You are misreading the 2nd Amendment. Unlike the 1st in which the operative phrase is “Congress shall make no law. . .,” the 2nd has the operative phrase “. . . shall not be infringed.” The plain meaning does not require the application of the 14th Amendment to make it applicable to the states and localities — “shall not be infringed” is an absolute statement, not a restraint specifically placed on the Federal government or the Congress.


24 posted on 01/01/2013 9:02:46 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: CORedneck

the good old boys will likely want to run your plates and
let the dog have a sniff with windows like that.


25 posted on 01/01/2013 10:14:54 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: blondee123

Your post implies that all guns would be banned in the whole state. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote?


26 posted on 01/01/2013 12:13:03 PM PST by rickyrikardo
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To: Paladin2

As someone who knows people in southern Illinois, this will not happen.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 12:33:12 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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The Place for Conservatives

Happy New Year!!

28 posted on 01/01/2013 1:25:51 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: eartick

Wrong. The Bill of Rights does actually apply to all citizens. For example, a state cannot outlaw free speech. It’s bizzare to suggest the Bill of Rights and constitutional protections only apply to people in DC and military bases, etc.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 7:42:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: William Tell
We made many stops in Texas, Virginia, and other states where I could legally carry.

Y'all come back now, heah?

Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo is next month .... kicks off with giant BBQ contest, you get to wander around and try all sorts of different BBQ and "rubs". Great stuff.

30 posted on 01/02/2013 1:18:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: stranger and pilgrim

http://www.redstate.com/scotts/2013/01/01/cullerton-to-introduce-near-total-gun-ban-on-january-2nd/

Found this on second city cop blog- in comments section of officer involved accident. Title on post is Bad Crash


31 posted on 01/02/2013 5:37:14 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: rickyrikardo

see post #31 for link to article all guns will be banned according to article.


32 posted on 01/02/2013 5:39:02 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: blondee123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU


33 posted on 01/02/2013 7:05:53 AM PST by PLD
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