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Piers Morgan Takes Aim at the Bible
American Thinker ^ | 12/31/2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 12/31/2012 3:52:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind

You've got to hand it to bloviating Brit Piers Morgan. While he got most of the facts wrong in his recent targeting of the Second Amendment, it hasn't stopped him from moving on to even more formidable targets.

Such as the Bible.

He says the book is "inherently flawed" -- and needs to be amended.

Piers handed down his decree while interviewing Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren on the December 24th "Piers Morgan Tonight." Yes, on Christmas Eve. When other hosts might be discussing love, brotherhood, salvation, and all things ethereal, Captain Morgan was giving us the world according to Piers. And how would he improve the Good Book? Said he, "Both the Bible and the Constitution were well intentioned, but they are basically, inherently flawed. Hence the need to amend it. My point to you about gay rights, for example; it's time for an amendment to the Bible."

Well, Piers, we're so blessed to have you to correct both America's founding document and the most influential book in history. We had to suffer more than 200 years with one and more than 2000 with the other, but the right god-man has finally come along. Oh, and when you're done with that, old boy, can you contact the Genome Project and rewrite the human genetic code for us? We're flawed, too. To Warren's credit, he politely but firmly disagreed, responding to the amendment call by saying:

What I believe is flawed is human opinion because it constantly changes. [...]What was hot is now not. [...]My definition of Truth is: if it's new, it's not true. If it was true a thousand years ago, it'll be true a thousand years from today; opinion changes, but Truth doesn't. To this Morgan quite predictably responded, "We're going to agree to disagree on that."

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bible; deadhorse; homosexualagenda; piersmorgan; relativism; selwynduke

1 posted on 12/31/2012 3:52:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Piers, I double dog dare you to say that about the Koran!


2 posted on 12/31/2012 4:02:20 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Messing with Gods words and promises is a flawed idea.
This will not end well for him.


3 posted on 12/31/2012 4:03:05 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: SeekAndFind

With Piers Morgan it’s open season on the Bible. Good grief!


4 posted on 12/31/2012 4:03:40 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt”


5 posted on 12/31/2012 4:04:34 PM PST by Reagan's My Hero
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a very simple question for you, Piers:
Why are you here?

Honestly, why are you here if this nation is so terribly loathsome to you and your peculiar sensibilities? Sod off, you pompous git.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 4:06:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the last gasp of Piers Morgan: Attention Whore.

I’ve never watched this fop and certainly from what I’ve read, never will.

He’s a silly little man.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 4:06:22 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: SeekAndFind

The Bible has been amended numerous time already; there are tons of versions that are so bad they’re blasphemous. Does this doofus even know that?


8 posted on 12/31/2012 4:06:54 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

I take special joy in knowing that Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear punched this douchebag.


9 posted on 12/31/2012 4:07:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Bible and the Constitution do not need amending!


10 posted on 12/31/2012 4:09:33 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: right way right
"Messing with Gods words and promises is a flawed idea. This will not end well for him."

I agree. My God, the God of Elijah, will not be mocked.

It will be public, humiliating and bad for Piers if he does not repent.

11 posted on 12/31/2012 4:14:29 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SeekAndFind

I cannot believe he is stupid enough to say this. What an idiot.


12 posted on 12/31/2012 4:14:45 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: mtnwmn

Re: The Bible and the Constitution do not need amending!

I disagree about the latter.

I’d like the 16th amendment amended.

In fact, I’d like an Amendment to the constitution CLARIFYING IN CLEAR ENGLISH TEXT AS TO WHO QUALIFIES AS NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 4:15:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: DallasSun

RE: I cannot believe he is stupid enough to say this. What an idiot.

The man is obviously NOT a Christian and does not subscribe to the Christian worldview.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 4:17:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Oddly enough, I find myself somewhat agreeing with Piers Morgan.

The Bible was written by a committee of unknown folks, mostly using only one name as their nom de plume, has been translated and amended dozens, hundreds or maybe even thousands of times. It is interpreted differently by everybody that reads one version or another and is "interpreted" by "scholars" speaking in front of vast audiences of blind followers.

It also bears striking similarities to other recitations of moral codes fostered by widely-separated peoples who had no knowledge of each other.

Differences in interpretations of various anecdotal moral codes have also led to a lot of senseless bloodshed and violence over the millenia.

I vote we take it all back to the 10 Commandments and push the restart button on everything else.

15 posted on 12/31/2012 4:17:42 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: mtnwmn

11th Commandment: Thou Shall not own any weapon of self protection, Abolish the Constitution of the United States of America, and Believe in Piers for guidance for all things.


16 posted on 12/31/2012 4:18:01 PM PST by Conserev1
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To: SeekAndFind

17 posted on 12/31/2012 4:18:50 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - Rene "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: elkfersupper

I take it you are not a Christian....


18 posted on 12/31/2012 4:18:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously. Therefore his opinion means nada to me...nor I would imagine anyone else.


19 posted on 12/31/2012 4:19:18 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

What do you say to Post #15 above. The poster agrees with Piers Morgan.


20 posted on 12/31/2012 4:21:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So Piers Morgan has become both a constitutional and a biblical scholar? How many minutes has he spent in research?

Perhaps Morgan would do better in the self analysis of his navel.


21 posted on 12/31/2012 4:22:28 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; ...
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22 posted on 12/31/2012 4:22:49 PM PST by narses
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23 posted on 12/31/2012 4:23:31 PM PST by narses
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To: SeekAndFind

I say that person is not a Christian. I have found that most who disagree with the bible or parts thereof do so for self serving purposes. They find it difficult to follow the teachings because of a lack of depth in their character. So instead of following the teachings, they want to change them. This shows weakness and is cowardly. I hope I am not being too harsh. Can’t think of any other way of framing my opinion.


24 posted on 12/31/2012 4:32:59 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: SeekAndFind
Progressive Wallahs issue fat wad against Christians.

Department of State issued warnings concerning radical Progressives rampaging and targeting Christians in Progressive countries. Be advised if you are traveling abroad.

25 posted on 12/31/2012 4:36:28 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I take it you are not a Christian....

I was certainly raised that way, if you call Southern Baptists "Christians".

I did learn to think and question at some point, so I guess I am first and foremost a pragmatist these days.

26 posted on 12/31/2012 4:36:30 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: All
PENNIES FOR LEAVIN'

If you want to help non-American citizen, Piers Moron, with air fare back to his home in the sceptered isle, read my tag line.

My penny toward his ticket home went in the mail this morning.....scotch taped to a recipe-type card, the card carrying my heartfelt sentiments to Piers and CNN, also.

If the CNN mail room and editors are dis-inclined to put the pennies in Moron's in-box, they can donate them to charity (as I wrote on the card).

Here's a chance to really do something useful, as well as fun, about these media leftists who are corrupting OUR air waves with their socialist, marxist, leftist, pacifist, atheistic, hedonistic, chicken-shiite propaganda.

Let's flood CNN with these pennies putting forth some real FR activism (which has been rather luke-warm recently, gloom. The address for CNN is in my tag line.p>The other thing we can do is patronize our local Hobby Lobby stores every chance we get. I bought some Christmas things for next year on sale at 60%-off a couple days ago.

Let's GO! Consider these efforts as FREEPS!

Leni

27 posted on 12/31/2012 4:37:18 PM PST by MinuteGal (Send a penny NOW to CNN, 1 Time-Warner Center, NY, NY 10019 for "PENNIES FOR LEAVIN!" (Piers Morgan))
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To: elkfersupper

RE: I am first and foremost a pragmatist these days.

Well, that explains why you agree with Piers Morgan.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 4:40:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This man wants to "correct" the word of God?

A bit arrogant, isn't he?

29 posted on 12/31/2012 4:42:53 PM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: SeekAndFind
(1) Piers Morgan is NOT smarter than God...

(2) The Word of God is like... "an anvil that has worn out many hammers"...

(3) I hope Piers will embrace the truth some day....

(4) In the interim, I hope the door doesn't hit him in tbe bum on the way out...

Happy New Year!

30 posted on 12/31/2012 4:47:33 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Reagan's My Hero
Is this quote allowed on Fakebook?

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt”

31 posted on 12/31/2012 4:55:44 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, in your mind, the Bible has not been translated, reformatted and/or interpreted over the millenia and there is no room in Christianity for people who know that?


32 posted on 12/31/2012 5:01:07 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
Most of the Bible was written by known people until recently. It has been rewritten by unknowing individuals lately. I have no idea where you get the committee of unknown folks but just a bunch of bunk.
33 posted on 12/31/2012 5:03:57 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: elkfersupper
You might want to rethink that, as you are pretty much misinformed from beginning to end.

The Bible was written by a committee of unknown folks, mostly using only one name as their nom de plume. No it wasn't. It is a collection of books written at various times, many of the authors are known and others can be identified by their style. In fact, we know a good deal more about many of the authors than we do about generally accepted historical authors like Julius Caesar and the Venerable Bede. But people seem to have some sort of exclusive super-authenticity test for the Bible.

The Bible was approved as a canon of authentic and authenticated books by Biblical scholars (we know their names - St. Jerome is prominent among them), and then approved by several church councils after considerable study and debate (and we know the names of the participants).

has been translated and amended dozens, hundreds or maybe even thousands of times. Not really - even if you count every language the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel translated it into, even the oddball ones like Scots Gaelic and Gullah. And if you're worried about that, it's a simple matter to learn Greek and read it in the original (while the OT is obviously in Hebrew, when Jesus quotes the OT he quotes the Septuagint, which was the Greek translation of the OT made in Alexandria some time in the 3rd c. B.C.) A semester or two of Classical Greek will fit you for reading the Bible in the original (I had two years and it's a cinch. It's written in very simple Greek which was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean at the time).

As for the interpretation thing, stick to the classical and avoid the new and trendy and you won't go far wrong. There is very little actual disagreement amongst traditional Biblical scholars, but folks who want to use Scripture for their own purposes (yes, Kate Schori, I am looking at you) often dishonestly torture the meaning. But they are pretty easy to nose out - they're the ones with the empty churches. Or the empty Nielsen ratings.

The fact that you find yourself in company with a twee little twinkletoes like Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan (O'Meara wasn't good enough for him?) should give you a clue that you've taken a wrong turn here.

34 posted on 12/31/2012 5:16:01 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well stated.

Nicely done.


35 posted on 12/31/2012 6:12:58 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SeekAndFind

Peeair Morgan = fookin git


36 posted on 12/31/2012 6:20:38 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: elkfersupper

RE: So, in your mind, the Bible has not been translated, reformatted and/or interpreted over the millenia and there is no room in Christianity for people who know that?

Of course not. It is your understanding of how it was transmitted and compiled that is flawed.

Otherwise I would be on your side of thinking.

Post #34 says it quite well.


37 posted on 12/31/2012 6:25:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: AnAmericanMother; elkfersupper

Well said, AnAmericanMother.
A twee little twinkletoes? Remind me not to mess with you.

elk,

The Bible was written under the direction of The Holy Spirit by authors. You challenging God? The way we interpreted it may differ, but The Word was, is, and will be The Truth.


38 posted on 12/31/2012 6:38:08 PM PST by Chong
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To: Chong
( blushes ) - have had this discussion several times. :-)

"At the beginning of time the Word already was; and God had the Word abiding with him, and the Word was God." - John 1:1

Talking of translations, I just got hold of the Knox Bible (Ronald, not John) and am enjoying it very much. It employs the principles of "dynamic translation" as correctly conceived (not the tortured excuse for vapid political correctness seen in the NAB) - how would a native English speaker say what the original says, and be understood by most native speakers across time?

39 posted on 12/31/2012 7:14:50 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: elkfersupper
Oddly enough, I find myself somewhat agreeing with Piers Morgan.

In the end, and on your knees begging, you will not. Your opinion puts you firmly in his class. IMHO.

40 posted on 01/01/2013 4:11:03 AM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: mtnwmn

The Constitution most certainly does need amending. It’s not holy writ by any stretch.


41 posted on 01/01/2013 5:04:01 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Never seen his show but my Gaydar just went off after seeing his picture, he looks like a poofter.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 7:13:54 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: elkfersupper

You have obviously bought into the “documentary thesis” of the authorship of the Bible.


43 posted on 01/01/2013 9:46:00 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind
Morgan's contract is up in 2013. His ratings don't just suck, in the past week he currently trails CNBC's "Crime Inc". and HLN's "Weekend Mysteries" in 25-54.

Mark Sucker is moving him to late night, at least 10pm, where he will be forgotten, or at least have zero chance to reach the preferred target niches.

44 posted on 01/01/2013 10:08:44 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
You have obviously bought into the “documentary thesis” of the authorship of the Bible.

No, I bought into the theory that Free Republic was a conservative news and political site.

I guess that I find these long threads on whether or not is is proper to break the big or the small end of the egg, which wars have been fought over, highly irritating and there are times when I find it irrestible to comment.

Sorry for intruding on your universe.

45 posted on 01/02/2013 3:19:05 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent article from Selwyn Duke. Completely correct about the moral relativism of Piers Morgan and his fellow libs.


46 posted on 01/02/2013 6:41:23 PM PST by ReformationFan
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