Skip to comments."Judge England" and the upcoming "Eligibility Challenge" of Illegal-Alien Barack Obama
Posted on 12/31/2012 6:47:47 PM PST by ednoonan7
As one of the litigants in Attorney Orly Taitz's upcoming Barry Soetoro (aka BHO) eligibility case (Jan 3, 2013), I have doubts that Judge Morrison C. England, Jr can be objective about removing the Usurper-in-Chief from office. England will be incapable of being fair and honest in this "Soetoro eligibility" matter. I will admit that England was nominated by George W. Bush (on March 21, 2002) for the seat on the Federal bench but I can hardly believe that England is a stalwart GOPer.
I have been unhappy with England in the past. He was the "conservative turncoat" who decided anyone that contributed money to Prop 8 could be "outed" in newspaper articles. The same leftist garbage is currently being pulled back East where names of private GUN OWNERS are being highlighted in the local newspapers. This so-called Judge (England) ruled that it is okay to ridicule and give out names and addresses of those that contribute to anti-gay causes and campaigns.
Judge England disregarded Supreme Court rulings that allowed the NAACP and the Socialist Workers Party to conceal their membership or contribution lists after encountering public hostility. But the anti-gay patriots were not allowed the same status. Thus, I do not feel kindly towards Mr. England.
Plaintiff: Edward C. Noonan National Chairman American Resistance Party
(Excerpt) Read more at americanresistanceparty.org ...
History will not be kind to those who looked the other way or who didn’t look at all.
People cannot abide traitors. They simply can’t.
I think we have to look reality in the face ... the usurper in chief will never be prosecuted in any way for his possible ineligibility for the office of POTUS. Sad but true.
What other judge will hear this case, in time within the next 3 days?
It’s like the Romney candidacy: Sure, another candidate would be better, but sometimes you have to play the hand you’re dealt.
This hearing may be the “last chance” for regular peons to have any input (in the case file, or on the courthouse steps) before our elected criminals have their way in Congress on Jan 4th.
wheres the court ???
city, state ???
I was just thinking this the other day while thinking about the Kennedy assassination. 50 years later and the files are still sealed. Do we believe anytime in our lifetime some president will unseal Barry's records? Even after his death? People don't even want to know what went on in the Conn school shooting. I wrote in to Fox news asking about the gun in the trunk was supposedly used to kill the children. Then NBC said he had 4 handguns, not 2 and the rifle was in the trunk. Then they show a long gun in his trunk being unloaded and a shot shell falls out. There is no proof an AR15 was even there, let alone used. Fox news informed me they are no longer accepting tips or questions on this subject. So Feinstein is passing a law that has nothing to do with anything. Are they going to take shotguns and pistols? I don't think so.
Bet Orly keeps her perfect record.
History will not be kind to the birthers for creating a "crisis" where reality did not back them up.
Heck, current events haven't been kind to 'em.
ROBERT MATSUI FEDERAL COURTHOUSE
501 “I” STREET, COURTROOM 7
There is not one politician who cares what anyone says or thinks of him once he is dead and buried because he knows that he is not going to get their vote.
Grandmother said, “Can’t never did. Quitters never do.”
At least Orly has a chance of doing, what you choose to quit and never do.
Over 500 court cases and eligibility challenges and not a single one was given a fair hearing and honest discovery. Are you like those 500+ judges that don’t believe ALL CITIZENS have a right to “petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
I am proud of Orly who is a Russian born citizen for her valiant effort to protect/resurrect our Dead Constitution. But your pitiful and snide COMMENT about her dismal record of finding an honest judge offends me. You owe the lady an apology!
Well at least shes doing something...
Orly has a personal understanding of the terrors of runaway government and tyrants. She deserves encouragement and respect for subjecting herself to persecution and ridicule simply because she is taking on a Goliath.
I give her kudos for fighting against the communists.
She knows ‘em when she sees ‘em, unlike so many idiot, lazy Americans.
Three days? We have been fighting this Kenyan/ Indoesian/ British illegal alien for 4 years now. I wrote a complaint to my Congressman Wally Herger in 2009... he sluffed me off. I wrote to the Social Security office complaining about Soetoro’s bogus social security number(s). Then I wrote to the FBI compaining of the felonies committed by Soetoro (aka BHO) in above actions. I filed a 2012 Primary Ballot Challenge in Sacramento Superior Court... case dismissed without a hearing. Gary Kreep was my attorney in this action. We filed an appeal and have been cooling our heels since March 2012. Recently I signed on with Orly... after the general election... The CA Supreme Court refused to hear our case...We now go up the ladder against one corrupt Supreme judge after another.
THREE DAYS? This nightmare has been going on for FOUR FLIPPIN’ YEARS! The lying thug that sits in the White House is not even a US Citizen and cannot provide any documentation to prove his citizenship. It’s no longer about Soetoro being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN...it’s about whether or not Soetoro is at least a plain ole “U.S. CITIZEN.”
But, it is clear he was born in Kenya - - plain and simple! There is much more evidence of a Kenyan birth than a true Hawaiian (US) birth.
To me, my “last chance” is the last action I take before they lay me out in my coffin. Until then the fight MUST go on any way possible. You sort of sound like one of the TOWNS PEOPLE in the movie RED DAWN! Are you a collaborator? Or fighter?
Me too. I wish her the best but I fear the deck iis stacked against her.
An officer of the court has documented that the COLB, SS# and Selective Service documents are forged. Lt. Harris died for what he knew.
0bama is, by definition, a constitutional crisis. He wanted it that way.
Call me what you like, but the man’s a fraud. I don’t care how many corrupt people he has threatened or killed to get where he is. He’s vile, contemptible and disgustingly illegal, so of course, he wants to make illegal aliens legal.....He has to because he is one.
“There is much more evidence of a Kenyan birth than a true Hawaiian (US) birth.”
Irrespective of his place of birth, BHO cannot be a natural born sitizen of the U.S.A. because his father was not ever a citizen of the U.S.A.
“You owe the lady an apology!”
I second that thought! When was the last time you got up off your sorry ass and did anything approaching what Orly has tried to do? It’s too bad some of the other “strutters” around here don’t offer her an apology too!
Yeah...establishing legal precedence for the very definition of NBC she opposes. How's that helping? Frankly, Obama couldn't ask for a better opponent than Orly...she manages to lose without opposing council.
Rest assured he will be judged. More than likely in a way we do not recognize.
Sounds like you have made up your mind and aren't following the Constitution.
Kindly GET OUT OF THE WAY.
I know he will be judge in the long run, my statement concerns the here and now.
Here, and now, can get here any time now!
AMEN! One can only hope.
I’ve got 187 pages of an affidavit that I filed in a Nebraska criminal case, and what’s on those pages all says reality backs us up. Most notable is HI state registrar Alvin Onaka’s verification to AZ SOS Ken Bennett, in which he indirectly confirms that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid.
Kudos to you, too, Butter.
You’ve done a great deal more than most.
“Most notable is HI state registrar Alvin Onakas verification to AZ SOS Ken Bennett, in which he indirectly confirms that Obamas HI BC is legally non-valid.”
Remember HI Gov.-elect Abercrombie said he would search for Obama’s BC. A reporter with the Honolulu Advertiser followed up with Gov. Abercrombie ...
“He told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser: ‘It actually exists in the archives, written down,’ he said.
But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate.
“And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.”
Only a Court can order a vital record of a living person sealed and archived. A Court order to seal and archive a documents means it not legally valid in any Court or Administrative Hearing.
I am sure Obama appreciates your support
The fact that Obama and his supporters cannot even provide decent fake documents is evidence enough that he is not eligible. The bigger fools will always be the Obama Supporters.
>> “People cannot abide traitors. They simply cant.” <<
The 43% that are on the public tab cannot abide paying their own way, They simply cannot.
Heck Obama boy, reality has not been kind to you.
Give his tusche a big smooch for us, will you?
Indeed she (butterdezillion) HAS!!!
And she hasn't (we haven't) given up yet!
Me too! I think the Coen Brothers should make a movie about her.
butterdezillion, have you ever contacted Dr. Orly?
Maybe you could work together.
I saw in one of your posts somewhere that you felt that she had missed something.
Why not contact her and discuss it with her?
‘Well at least shes doing something...’
You bet ‘she’s doing something’.
She has literally put her life on hold (and in danger) to try and bring down the usurper.
And if you don’t think she hasn’t caused the Marxist/Muslim a few sleepless nights, you’re fooling yourself.
(And that counts for plenty)
Of couse she has made mistakes. Perhaps this is the result of English being a second language or just being over zealous- but a lady who speaks five languages, is a licensed dentist, licensed real estate broker and a lawyer plus having a second-degree black belt, is NOT stupid.
Dr. Taitz has made defending the constitution and the American way of life a personal ambition in the absence of any constitutional leadership.
She is more American than most Americans.
It’s easy to sit behind your computer and bloviate.
But ask yourself; what have YOU done to get the usurper out of the White House?
My comment emphasizing “three days” was intended to reiterate the fact that that’s how much time remains before Congress is convened to read the Electoral College vote on January 4th and to certify the election results of 2012.
As of this date, the only legal proceeding that could affect that vote is the Grinols v. Electoral College
matter now scheduled to be heard on January 3rd in Sacramento.
True, it’s a longshot, and Orly’s track record isn’t encouraging, but supporting it is the one method that’s available to anyone who doesn’t want to make a trip to DC for a post-election protest on an assigned street corner in sub-freezing temperatures while surrounded by armed undercover agents and rooftop snipers.
I don’t disagree with you that Obama supporters are fools.
But the “evidence” that birthers have produced is cr*p, which has steadily led me, and many others, to the conclusion that their accusations are cr*p.
Of course there will always be those who desperately want to believe. Just like those who still believe in Santa Claus.
Well you’ve kept yours. Zero zero.
You seen Obama’s original birth certificate then? seen any original document from Obama?
Do you have a brain? Or a conscience?
Didn’t think so.
The Sophists were history’s first progressive teachers living in ancient Greece. Their trade, so to speak, was teaching methods of persuasion to the elite of their day, for a price. Sophistry employs rhetorical techniques used to direct arguments towards (at the least) a stalemate, it attempts to persuade a lesser skilled debater into questioning a commonly held belief or truth. Sophist like the modern progressives do not care whether an argument is true but whether their agenda is reached. Their agenda is to appear superior to their adversaries.
Our agenda should be to discover the truth.
The Sophist were history’s first progressive teachers living in ancient Greece. Their trade, so to speak, was teaching methods of persuasion to the elite of their day, for a price. Sophistry employs rhetorical techniques used to direct arguments towards (at the least) a stalemate, it attempts to persuade a lesser skilled debater into questioning a commonly held belief or truth. Sophist like the modern progressives do not care whether an argument is true but whether their agenda is reached. Their agenda is to appear superior to their advisories.
Our agenda should be to discover the truth.
The reason why I stand up against the utterly futile, deeply embarrassing and unfortunately unending birther idiocy is because I happen to have both.
It should indeed. Unfortunately, the agenda of birthers is to endlessly repeat nonsense. And every time some of their nonsense is shown to be false, they just go out and invent some new nonsense. Or ignore the fact the mounds and mounds of stinking previous nonsense was shown to be false, and repeat it as if it were true anyway.
“Only a Court can order a vital record of a living person sealed and archived. A Court order to seal and archive a documents means it not legally valid in any Court or Administrative Hearing.”
I agree. But will document here that reporters have indicated in was Gov. Lingle who ‘sealed’ the records.
I have no idea what legal authority a Governor has to take such action. But it is in print as shown below.
Your thoughts? Is there a partial truth - i.e. sealed records do exist - but they were sealed long before Lingle was around?
Reported ‘sealing’ of documents by Lingle:
“Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle seals Obamas birth records” - subtitle
“Following Obamas one-day trip to Hawaii last Thursday to visit his deathly ill grandmother, Lingle placed Obamas birth records under seal and instructed the Hawaii Department of Health, under no condition may it provide access to the original document unless Obama authorizes it to be released.*”
This generated a response from the Gov. office:
“The subhead, and the statement in the article, “Lingle placed Obamas birth records under seal and instructed the Hawaii Department of Health, under no condition may it provide access to the original document unless Obama authorizes it to be released,” are not true.
The Governor did not make any order relating to this matter. Vital records are administered through the state Department of Health.”
So after reports were obviously fed a line that Lingle sealed the documents her office has contested that.
“I agree. But will document here that reporters have indicated in was Gov. Lingle who sealed the records.”
The Court ordered the original long form BC for Obama to be sealed when the Soetoro adoption was finalized. Gov. Lingle, or a bureaucrat who works for Gov. Lingle, followed the order issued by the court and sealed the record.
Gov. Lingle, or any bureaucrat working for her, does not have the authority to seal a vital record of a living person. Only a Court can order the record sealed.
We know Obama’s original long form BC was sealed by order of the Court because the long form BC was “accepted” by the registrar Aug 8, 1961 and then the COLB was “filed” by the registrar Aug 8, 1961.
ACCEPTED - Registrar accepts the affidavits of the mother, delivery doctor and hospital administrator swearing the vital information provided to the registrar is true and correct.
FILED - The Court ordered the vital record to be created and filed. The Registrar does not have the choice to accept or refuse to file the submitted vital information.
Obama’s original long form BC was ACCEPTED.
Obama’s COLB was FILED after a Court ordered it to be FILED. (Note: COLB was ordered created and filed in 1971, 1972 and backdated to indicate it was filed on Aug 8, 1961 by order of the Court).
Most Hawaiians have an ACCEPTED original long form BC and an ACCEPTED COLB.